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15 Dec 2005 07:22 | Dusty | Xbox 360 Xbox360News.com | Link to this article 
Microsoft says they have no plans to add next-generation DVD player to future versions of the Xbox 360. "There are currently no plans to release an Xbox 360 equipped with a next generation DVD player." a Microsoft spokesperson told IGN. Microsoft lists two points in response to the reports claiming that it has, as of the 14th, entered into final development phases with Toshiba and other HD-DVD backers to release an HD-DVD version of the Xbox 360 some time next year after Spring. The first point: "Microsoft, in both America and Japan, has not announced anything regarding the possibility of a next generation DVD drive being placed in the Xbox 360." And the second point: "There are currently no plans to release an Xbox 360 equipped with a next generation DVD player."
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okUnregistered - cjpimpizl 12.15.2005 08:03 y post somthing so old? 2 -
GRUDGE 12.15.2005 08:35 I'm getting the 360 to play games not DVD's,so this means nothing to me, besides I have atleast 4 DVD players in my house that work just fine and soon to be 5 :P. 3 -
Unregistered - Ken Katuragi 12.15.2005 08:38 @nr2: It can hold more data that would be the point. I rather a have a drive when running 360 games a little less noisy 4 -
IndicaSativa420 12.15.2005 08:51 this sucks for me i have my 360 if they do support hddvd or blueray in the futue i want an add on because i was loyal enough from the start 5 -
Unregistered - Ken Katuragi 12.15.2005 08:55 But what do I know? I am just a lame gs3 fanboy. gs3, if it wasent good I wouldnt put my name on it 6 -
Unregistered - Jules 12.15.2005 10:00 Any add on to the xbox360 to make it HD-DVD compatible is going to require an entirely new drive, which would cost probably more or as much as a player you could buy in the store of much better quality. Remember, this is microsoft, where a $50 DVD drive cost $100. I have a $200 DVD player that has a picture which far exceeds the lousy picture the xbox 360 DVD player gives me on my TV. Point is that an Xbox HD-DVD add on isn't really desirable. I could care less if it holds more space, as I don't mind changing discs once in awhile while playing. What I wish MS would come out with is a HD DVD Changer which connects to the 360, imagine loading up your favorite 5 games and playing them all day without having to switch a disc. That would be something worth paying for. 7 -
Unregistered - Jules 12.15.2005 10:01 Edit to post above, I meant $50 HD costing $100. 8 -
Unregistered - theSeus 12.15.2005 10:19 I don't plan on wasting any money on high def dvds until I know which will be the dominant format between to two competitors. Hopefully in the near future I will just be streaming movies anyways through broadband to my tv so this will be a non-issue. I really feel that this high def dvd war will really slow the adoption of a standard format so this won't be much of an issue until 2010. 9 -
Unregistered - theSeus 12.15.2005 12:22 Of course they will add a high def drive later, they just can't admit it now as that might hurt current sales of the console. 10 -
Who cares??????????omegaheat 12.15.2005 12:56 Microsoft should let that be Sony's problem. Microsoft's console is a pure gaming machine with other non-gaming features used to appeal to non-gamers. Sony needs to sell the idea of Blue-ray because those idiots invested so much money into the medium. So what if the disc can play HD movies. A standard dvd already looks great on a standard television and even better on an HD television. HD televisions are still too expensive before they become mass market or before the non-techie even realize the difference. Sony has been marketing the blue-ray format more than the PS3 itself, and spring is just around the corner for launch. This modern beta vs vhs war has Sony stressed. It was stupid to use a videogame console to enter a new medium that majority of the consumers know nothing about or even cares. A stand alone blue-ray will come in around a thousand dollars. So I suppose Sony wants us to work more hours to purchase one...... Bill Gates doesn't want to gamble on a new physical medium because he knows that streaming high-definition movies to the drive is in the very near future. Remember these words in the near future. 11 -
Only expansionMerlinZero 12.15.2005 13:29 The only upgrade that most of use should care about is a new Hard Drive and maybe one that can connect through USB so that we can transfer data between HD's. a 100GB HD connected to my 360 rahter then the 20GB i have now would be sweet 12 -
#11Unregistered - leon 12.15.2005 13:52 check this out > http://llamma.com/xbox360/mods/USB%20Hard%20Drive%20Mod.htm (a usb hard drive mod ;) ) 13 -
A few things:Unregistered - Nunna Yo 12.15.2005 15:28 1) #9 - good point - remeber, when MS says "no comment" or there "has been no announcment" or "there is currently no plan" it means - we're not ready to unveil our plans yet.... 2) #6 - remember, you may be getting a $50 dollar HD for $100 bucks, but you're also getting a 600 GPU for 50 bucks....its called a pricing and revenue model - they're basically giving the console away so they have to make money somewhere - its no different then having to buy PS2 memory cards (you think they cost 20 bucks to make?) or the PS2 system link thingy to play lan games.... 3) Japanese analysts are suggesting "Adoption of the next-generation DVD formats among consumers, however, is expected to be a slow process. Consumers accustomed to the current generation DVD format will most likely begin the switch to Blu-ray or HD DVD in 2008, with sales of 8 million Blu-ray disc and HD DVD players predicted by 2010." Sheesh, even if this is for Japan only those numbers do not justify the added expense for the 360 to include an HD DVD solution right now - it will probably be years before they do. DVDs are here to stay. 4) The ONLY reason Sony is including the Blu-ray drive is that they have tried to corner a winning format for decades - they tried it with BetaMax, Mini-disc, now UMD and Blu-Ray. 2 things on this point - the PS3 is designed to add value to Blu-ray - the Blu-ray drive is not designed to add value to the PS3 and - there is still a distinct possibility that Blu-ray will not become the dominant format (go the way of BetaMax). In fact, some analysist doubt that either Blu-ray or HD-DVD will become the standard - they could both be leapfrogged by another more advanced solution. 14 -
There's a ReasonUnregistered - Allen Thompson 12.15.2005 16:28 I feel Microsoft will not include HD-DVD in future drives, because they know in their hearts Blu Ray will be the dominant format, which it should be. We all know BetaMax was a better format than VHS but Sony was too late on it's development that VHS had already grabbed a huge consumer base does killing BetaMax. This time around it will be a different case. Blu Ray is obviously a better format. People can whine that costs more to make, hard to convert the factories, yadda yadda. I'm sorry, when we've been using 4GB dvd's the last 5 years. You know there's a HUGE difference in the capacity a blu ray disc can hold vs. HD-DVD. And to me the price differential is definetly worth it.A 10 GB differential on one side of a disc is huge. That's two more of todays DVD's on one side of the disc. So, I think Microsoft believes it would be a waste of their money to include HD-DVD's in the future 360's and if they do it will be soley based on the fact of more capacity for game data. They are not gonna get in a HD-DVD vs. Blu Ray Disc movie-concerned war. 15 -
14MerlinZero 12.15.2005 17:51 If they thought it was a waste, they wouldn't back it. and Sony claims Blu Ray will be able to hold 50-100GB of space. Bill gave his reason like 6 months ago. He stated that he did not believe that the future of data transfer was in optical discs, but in hard drives and the internet, when your Ipod can carry more music then your local radio station, and more data then a library, thats an impressive feet. The future is NOT Blu Ray, because yes, it is too damn expensive, AND i believe that the internet and a more luquid format is going to dominate over an optical format. Its not that Blu Ray is all bad, its that i dont want to pay 3 dollars for a single disc that i can burn or make a back up of once or twice, instead i'd like a GIANT freakin hard drive (e.g. 1TB) that fits in my pocket.... develop THAT, and that would make me happy. 16 -
Patrick 12.15.2005 18:28 Well I am glad to see MS is coming to what little sense they have shown recently. For all you "everything will be on hard drive and on the internet people" and you "the future isnt Blu people" you have alot to learn and should try reading and really looking at whats going on in the REAL world and not just beleive what Gates tells you. It will be a long time before the majority of consumers ever even have the internet Speed or computer it takes to Download a full movie. People like having something tangable to buy and not just a download that can be lost with a simple computer glitch or crash. Blu-ray will be the next standard and that is why MS isnt using HD-dvd. The only reason they ever said they support it was to try to give it a boost and catch up with Blu-ray but all they did was hurt hd-dvd even more. No one cares who they support. They dont make computers or movies so who cares. And now that Blu-ray is clearly cleaning the floor with hd-dvd they are taking back what they said. Smart move MS. Now lets see how long it will take for them to annouse they are backing Blu-ray. THE FUTURE IS BLU. 17 -
16Unregistered - Hmmm 12.15.2005 19:33 You are right....things such as the ipod and itunes are just a figment of our imagingation. Tivo what? Nobody wants to record shows and movies on to a hard drive. Haha, silly DVR. Everybody's heart will bleed blu, cause you know that we need all of that extra storage space for all the special features we all watch.... and yes, we need all HD movies to watch on our anaolog tvs. Okay, enough saracasm. As someone briefly mentioned, should either format take off, it will be time for the next xbox to come out. It will almost be one year after the 360 launch before either format is truly out, so that leaves only about 3 years of the system's life. 18 -
16Unregistered - Hmmm 12.15.2005 19:38 Did you actually read what you wrote here? "the only reason they ever said they support it was to try to give it a boost and catch up with Blu-ray but all they did was hurt hd-dvd even more. No one cares who they support. They dont make computers or movies so who cares. And now that Blu-ray is clearly cleaning the floor with hd-dvd they are taking back what they said. Smart move MS. Now lets see how long it will take for them to annouse they are backing Blu-ray. THE FUTURE IS BLU." Okay, they were giving it a boost to catch up to Blu-ray why? And if nobody cares, why would plenty of people talk about it....especially since it could have implications when concerning the 360? And give the "research" you have put into the statement of Blu ray, "cleaning the floor with hd-dvd", you would know that Gates has already stated that he is open to either format. 19 -
FreeMonk 12.15.2005 23:11 The reason the PS2 sold soooo well at first was because of it's built in DVD player. Why was this? Well, at the time it was sooooo expensive to buy a DVD player, plus it was a huge huge jump in quality from a VHS cassette that you could play on any Standard TV. Why is it that Blu-Ray and HD-DVD won't do as good!?? That's because to get the full benefits out of these mediums, you'll need a HD-TV, which not everyone can afford. DVD was basicly, plug and play. With Blu-Ray and HD-DVD you'll have to buy a completly new TV set (if you own a standard Non-HD TV), to appriecate the quality of Blu-Ray and HD-DVD. Yeah, PS3 is including one, and great, fantasic, but they are not going to get the over whelming responce that they got with the PS2 because of the above issues. As for X-Box360 not having a HD-DVD Drive!?? So!? They have 9gb disks to work with, and compression will get better with every single game. Even if it's spread over 2 disks, who cares!?? I don't. Imagine if MS included a HD-DVD Drive, it would of boosted the price of the console right up there, and probably lost them loads of sales because people wouldn't be able to afford it. That's why I'm not going to buy the PS3 when it first comes out, because it WILL be tooo expensive, because of this Blu-Ray drive. This Blu-Ray drive won't produce better graphics, it won't produce better gameplay, it's just a storage medium, something that a normal DVD can do, and somehow I can't see how a game with use 50gb worth of space, not unless it's one huge 200 hour RPG or something. We'll just have to see, but I agree that Hard Drives may be the future! I'd love the option of being able to download my game from the market place on a hard drive, instead of travelling all the way to a store, lining up and finding out it's not in stock. Instead you could just download it to the Hard Drive, and play. Plus it's be cheaper because of no packaging, plus no commision on top for the stores. Cheaper and quicker! Plus, maybe worldwide releases on games as well! 20 -
1 thingsUnregistered - Tha L 12.16.2005 05:03 1. why do ppl act as if the developers putting there games on 2 disks is something that appeals to them "i dont mind switching disk" it dosent the devolper is the one thats got to do the worrying about woulndt two dvds cost more than one bluray disk. if a game goes over the 9 gig and goes to about 12-4 are they gonna invest in a new disk or just start to cut back on the stuff that goes over the 9gig of space(correct me if im wrong). 21 -
Unregistered - theSeus 12.16.2005 07:35 I would recommend that you do an google search on broadband and the future of tv. You will find that the future of digital media is steaming to your home in the form of tv, video, etc is going to really take off in 2006. This is due to a number of advances in bandwidth among other things. The point is that the reason that Bill Gates has made the statements he has is that using dvd's as the primary storage medium for ditigal media will be dimishing quickly in the next few years. Hard drives and the internet are the future no doubt about it. 22 -
Vivicious 12.16.2005 10:20 I think people don't seem to realise how unnecessary alot of these new storage mediums are for games. Let's not forget games like Resident Evil 4 (Def. one of the nicest looking games out there on consoles.), that looks graphically more impressive on the GC than it's PS 2 remake, fits on two GC discs (The second actually taking up little more than half the space.), so you're looking at a size of 2-3 GB. Ok? RE4 is 2-3 GB, and we're worried about getting 15+ GB storage capabilities? Waste of time and money, for the next 5 years at least. Compression is the key anyway, as the only games you ever see taking up that much room are games filled with CGI (Japanese RPG's anyone?), or possibly even badly compressed games. You should look at your games dir on your PC, from developers like ID, Epic, etc. 23 -
#20Vivicious 12.16.2005 10:22 Though I doubt there will be many games of over 9 GB (Damn sloppy or CGI crazy developers in that case.), a DVD would cost them under 2 cents. 24 -
A few more things:Unregistered - Nunna Yo 12.16.2005 10:27 To number 20 - its not that people are saying that they want to switch between 2 discs for a game, they are just saying that at this moment (and probably for the next few years) the value-added by a huge capacity disc format is not enough to warrant it. Lets say the Blu-ray consortium finds a way to reduce the manufacturing costs of a Blu-ray disc to 50 cents U.S. Well, that's still 10 times what it would cost for 2 DVD dics. Although to a consumer 50 cents doesn't sound like much, it is HUGE for a manufacturer or game developer....Take Halo 2 - over 6 million copies sold, probably 7 million manufactured. 7 million. 0.40 dollars = 2.8 million dollars in lost profit. Furthermore, what developer needs 25 to 50 GB of storage for a game? Games are rapidly becoming less profitable as it is - development is more time consuming and requires more manpower - and the likelyhood of landing a smash game is less because of competition (VGing is becoming mainstream). If a developer made a game that really took advantage of the Blu-ray capacity it would take 5 years to make and cost 100 bucks to purchase - not worth it. Games are getting shorter, not longer in general. The 15 hour game is becoming the norm (for everything save hardcore RPGs). Am I saying that developers won't use blu-ray - no, they'll use whatever media is available - but do they have any reason to prefer Blu-ray? NO. To number 21: Excellent point - and also remember - to a degree we as consumers DO NOT get to pick what the future of media storage will be. As delivering content becomes less profitable, movie and music companies are looking for ways to increase their profit margins - if they can sell you their movie without the expense of a disc (and that reduction of their profits) they will. Not only will they encourage you, they will pressure you using all the powers they have (which are considerable - things such as Digital Rights management). Look at compact discs - they are quickly going away - becasue they are CDs? NO, becasue all physical media is going away...why? Becasue the content providers of music and movies want it too... 25 -
Wow!Unregistered - Daewoodrow 12.16.2005 11:08 First of all I can't tell you how happy i am to see 36 posts and not a single fanboyish comment, save maybe one or two. This is definitely how i like to see a debate going. I am an xbox fan, so it won't surprise anyone to find i don't believe blu-ray is a necessity for future videogaming. 15 next gen games out so far, (I think) and none of the developers complained of space constraints. (I think). I wouldn't have worried about having an hd-dvd on my 360 (ok maybe a little) but as it is, they didn't include one, and I don't care. i'm not now going to buy A SECOND console just for a souped up dvd drive. If xbox 360 dies because it didn't have an hd-dvd drive, i'll eat my game disks. 26 -
MediumsMotojass 12.16.2005 12:55 All types of media will be availible for download off the internet. Why create new and expensive ways to deliver content when you can use what's already there. You could download a whole game on the HD and not have to even mess with a lame disk. Of course you would need a larger drive than 20G but I'm sure they will change that in the future. 27 -
It does not say clearly...Unregistered - g 12.17.2005 09:05 they don't have a plan to add hd-dvd "currently". what does it mean? that they'll have a plan in future? 28 -
darnUnregistered - cjpimpizl 12.21.2005 12:42 mann i was so hyped wen i got my 360 i played it all day and night i love it like a girlfriend but darnit any how it must have just died and dumped me wen i went over to my friends house cas wen i got back it was broke and i tried everything to fix it good thing i got a warrenty Add Comment |
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