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10 Jan 2006 07:21 | Dusty | Xbox 360 Xbox360News.com | Link to this article
After Team I.C.E recent claims to have a working mod chip for the Xbox 360, there have been several counter reports claiming that the mod chip is fake. In an effort to convince the sceptics, Team I.C.E has now released a video showing how a backup copy of Call of Duty 2 can be loaded with the help of their mod chip. If this is enough to convince the sceptics is unlikely as for all we know there could be a second 360 at play here. Faking this video is not very hard if they wanted to. Source: icemodchip.com Add Comment Unregistered - Cholo X 01.10.2006 08:56 This sucks!!! already destroying technology. KEEP IT LIKE THIS HACKERS AND WE'LL RETURN TO CARTRIDGE BASED SYSTEMS AND PLAYING ATARI IN A FEW YEARS FROM NOW Monty187 01.10.2006 09:00 I dont really mind paying for quality! Unregistered - bull shet 01.10.2006 09:26 LOL, its full of shet. period. Unregistered - k 01.10.2006 09:26 can i ask, what was the point in this video, we are shown a disc with call of duty 2 written on it then somebody putting a disc in the 360 and it running....they could of just put the original call of duty 2 disc in, we never see a close up of the copy disc being put in so we don't know for certain that is is a copied version. I'm never gonna chip my xbox 360, i'm willing to pay extra for the original games Cholo X 01.10.2006 09:42 I hope Microsoft finds some solution to this via updates (a la sony's PSP) or firmware or anything so they make this good for nothing bastards without a good night sleep. Unregistered - 01.10.2006 09:58 Huh, that's proof? Did IQs at TeamICE suddenly drop? How is that proof? We see a disc. We see a disc put into an XBox 360. We see the television showing Call of Duty 2 loading. They could have put the original disc in and booted it. It did look like the disc inserted was silver with writing on it, so they could have painted the original COD2 disc silver and wrote over it. They could have had a 2nd box at play, as suggested in the news. They could have recorded the bootup display with a VCR and just played it back. This is my personal favorite debunk, as the guy (or was that a girl?) in the vid seemed to concentrate quite a bit on the TV when he was "timing" the eject, insert disc, etc. omegaheat 01.10.2006 10:43 I think these people should get a life and leave the 360 alone. I remember playing against a clan in Halo 2 on Xbox, and all of them were modders. There was so much cheating going that I just stop playing the game for weeks until those bastards were banned. In the early days of Halo 2, there was much of this going on, but eventually Bungie resolved the problems. squeamoz 01.10.2006 12:14 modders are awesome, but when they use them to cheat, is ticks me off. PAUL CERULA 01.10.2006 12:29 yeah I really hate people who mod but as long as you keep it in the bedroom and not on live.....live and let live. PAUL CERULA 01.10.2006 12:31 Wait also wouldn't this mean that you could put multiple disk games on HD-DVD. I know the drive might need a rigged patch to run it but couldn't that work. That'd be kind of cool but I'll wait until MS makes HD-DVD their game format in a year. Here's hoping... Unregistered - U2 01.10.2006 14:47 Funny stuff... that was a horrible video.... Shot in the dark to hide the obvious BS ..... funny funny stuff Unregistered - joe 01.10.2006 15:51 I think that the video on the disk works (if that was a mod disk) but what about the sound on the disk they played that damn music all the way through the video so im sketchy on this but really i don't give a damn cuz MOD SUCKS don't do it...unless your poor then its ok but beware if I see you with one I will think you poor. Unregistered - me 01.10.2006 17:43 poor, or smart. Why pay 60 bucks when you could have for rental price. Put that money to gas. Unregistered - Mighty Boom 01.10.2006 18:09 Where can I buy a mod chip!!! I cant wait to pay $5 for a game. Keep up the good work modders!!! Unregistered - GEV1L 01.10.2006 18:18 Yeah its really smart to steal a bunch of games and then you'd be all suprised at when companies stop making them. It is a catch 22 as software is expensive because people steal it but people steal it because its expensive. However that does not make it right. I mean honestly if you are that poor then the money spent of the system would be better spent on oh I don't know FOOD maybe? And if you are not than you are a thief plain and simple. Ihavent bothered to watch the video, but hopefully the people were stupid enough to show their faces on the video as I'm sure athorities would be mighty interested. Even if it is fake it's like selling fake narcotics(ie not pot) to someone, it's still trafficking. Several Game companies that I thought made some pretty good games had to close down because of things like this. Yet these people would be the first to bith of someone broke into their house and stole say their tv. It'sa theory that should be put to the test. Unregistered - momo 01.10.2006 19:22 That video dont prove sh!t! Unregistered - Haylonix 01.10.2006 21:37 Well it is illegal depending on where you live. A court ruling has made Mod Chips legal in Australia. But I do agree, doing so just hurts the industry we all love. Unregistered - . 01.10.2006 21:55 Hey number 15, Your right, if people steal games they should stop making them. If people steal tv's, they should quit making them. Heck, If people rob banks, money should quit being made. Please. Grow up and live in the real world. FreeMonk 01.10.2006 22:56 People turn to back-up copies of games because original copies cost too much. The third-party gen titles for the 360 are $10 more than normal. Why!?? Does it cost more to make these titles!? I guess not. Gun, Tony Hawk etc are just ports of the original X-box and PS2 titles, so why charge another $10? It's robbery, and then people ask why piracy is soooo wide-spread. It's the same for movies. People buy and download movies, whether they are pirates or Retail copies because it cost too much to go to the cinema or buy them from the stores now. They only way the Piracy might stop is if they start lowing prices. Will the gaming industry go bust if they drop the prices!? Or course not. They gaming industry is a billion dollar industry, and dropping prices down a little ain't gonna kill it, plus they'll make money back by people not buying backups if they can afford the original disk. That's my thought, and no, I don't mod or endorse modding. I'm just saying why I think people pirate material. Unregistered - asdf 01.10.2006 23:35 #18- That's not a good enough reason to do it, though. Just because they think it's too expensive doesn't mean that it's ok or excusable to just take it. The argument MIGHT have a TINY bit of merit if they then proceeded to send 50 bucks to whoever makes the game, but even then, they're not buying it at an agreed-upon price, which would STILL make it stealing. They're just trying to use high prices as an excuse to do what they would do anyway. It's not as if there's some sort of right to have video games for 50 bucks or less. Unregistered - asdf 01.10.2006 23:35 oops I mean #19. FreeMonk 01.11.2006 00:28 #20 - I totally agree with you that it's not right to steal video games/movies/games etc by pirating them, BUT that is the excuse! There are people out there who pirate for the sake of it, but there's people out there who can't afford to pay $60-70 a game for there kids or themselves, so the cheaper way to do it is to pay $60-$70 for a chip and get the games themselves by downloading them or by paying $5 a game instead. It's not an excuse to pirate, but it's the reason why people do it. That's just one example. Other examples are that people don't want to shell out lots of cash on a average game that will last them a few weeks or hours. Some people do it just for the sake of it. I agree it's not just about the price of games, but I bet that the main percentage of people who chip and pirate games are people who can't afford $60-$70 a game each time for there family. It's wrong, but at the end of the day, they don't care because it makes there family happy. I think games are too expensive myself. I'll still pay the asking price, but like I said before, I think it's awful that we have to pay an extra $10 for a game that's on the 360, when you can get the same thing on PS2 or X-Box for probably $10-20 cheaper and still get the same results. It's just greed! If games drop in price, not all, but a small majority may stop pirating and buy an offical copy, because it's always nice to have originals ain't it! Unregistered - Gladiator 01.11.2006 00:42 Even if they can't buy a new copy still no excuse. If you want a copy of a game, wait and buy a pre-played. That simple! It would be a orginal copy, cheaper, and used sure but thats the way life comes. FreeMonk 01.11.2006 03:34 Well it's ok to say that for people like me and you who can afford to buy original games, brand new or pre-owned, but the reality of it is that there are people out there how are on basic wage, have a large family and can't afford a $70 game or $30 pre-owned game. They see it as a cheap experience and they still get the same game but at a more cheaper cost. Yeah, it sucks ass and effects the gaming industry, but that's the reality of it all. It's ok saying, "Well they should just wait for pre-owned or that's no excuse", but that's there excuse. THEY CAN'T AFFORD IT, so they got the chipping copying way! Why do you think Hong Kong and Korea have the baddest case of piracy in the world, because there wages suck ass and they can't afford it. It's the same wherever you go. England, US, Australia. Plus, some people are cheap asses and don't want to pay even thought they have the money. Like I said, I'm not condoning this, and I'm not saying I'm right. I'm just telling you the truth about why a huge majority of people who buy these cheaps buy them for. That's all, so don't go moaning at me. Just accept it! It stinks, but it's true! Unregistered - Sidherich 01.11.2006 07:28 Those people that cant buy new games can still just rent them from video rental services. Example: Rented King Kong from a local video store, finished it in over the weekend and gave it back to the store. Cost me 5€. As for the video: There are lots of possibilities for it to be a fake, dunno. Not entirely sure but i think you could create one of these kiosk discs with the call of duty 2 demo only. which would run perfectly on every unmodded xbox. Unregistered - rob 01.11.2006 07:41 freemonk' that is BS. you are making it sound like most people who use mod chips are doing if for the good of there family. give me a break, i cant afford a 72in plasma screen tv so is it ok to steal it?? but what if its for my family?? a family can live without $60 games. you make it sound like they are stealing food not games for there kids. i will bet my left nut that most people doing this dont even have kids. stealing is wrong no matter what or why you steal, so please quit defending these thieves by saying they do it for there kids. P.S. if they can afford a 360 i think they can buy a $60, game or maybe they stole it, (for the good of there family that is ;) Unregistered - had0ken 01.11.2006 08:38 hopefully this isnt a lie because mods are awesome! companies wont stop making games, did they stop since ps1 was modded? not all. how about ps2? not all. xbox 1? nope. FreeMonk 01.11.2006 09:08 Well, if you read my comment properly, I said that I was using that as an example, not the whole population of people who buy mod chips in the world. People buy mod chips because there poor, people buy mod chips because they are rich but don't want to pay for the original game, people buy mod chips because they want to mess around and play homebrew games. There are lots of reasons, but what I'm saying is that a vast majority of people who buy modchips are people who can't afford to pay $70 for an orignal X-Box 360 game. I'm not just saying it's people with families, it people who are at college, or people who don't work or people who are disabled, but people do it. How do these guys get 360's!? Well, by the time the chips of decent useage are available, the 360's will of probably be down in price. Or they stole them. Or they got it as a christmas present. I don't know. The fact that I am saying, which I'm not defending in ANY WAY is:- People buy chips and backup on the cheap because games are too expensive. It's true. I know it, you know it, everyone knows it! That's the truth. I don't like it, whatever the circumstance, but that's the truth no matter how you look at it. I'm not trying to say it right, and I'm not standing up for these people, I'm saying that people copy games because they don't want to spend $70 on a game. Now back off, because I'm just stating a fact. :) Unregistered - rob 01.11.2006 09:47 sorry but it does sound like you are standing up for these people because you rant on about how family's cant afford 60 dollar games, if you dont think it is right than you shouldent have to give reasons for stealing games because that is what you did. i will say it one more time the vast majority of people who do this arent doing it because they are poor!!! i cant afford evry game that comes out, but i dont steal them i rent them or just dont buy them. and dont tell me to back off :) Unregistered - Logan 01.11.2006 10:43 There's no real way to tell if it was the real disc or the real 360 they put it on. Another thing that was odd, I read somewhere that the 360 games are on DVDs that hold almost 10GBs, yet the disc shown in the video was only a 4.7GB I believe. Would it all really fit? Most movie DVDs require more space than that. I think its a sham Islandkiwi 01.11.2006 18:30 Mods end up ruining the gaming experience. Don't give me that crap about some people can't afford the games. I can't afford a Ferrari, that doesn't mean I should be able to pay 5 dollars for duplicate car keys. It's illegal. Unregistered - dj 01.11.2006 22:29 How do mods ruin the game experience kid hahaha. When i had a PS2, xbox, and always bought new, or preplayed games from stores. Mods didnt ruin the gaming experience back then, as long as you bought real copies. People should keep away from moding their system and wait for pre played games like some people do. And modding wont ruin any game experience. Just be happy u got ur rich dumb @ss self a system and legite games and keep it like that. I dont see hoe modding affects us, as long as we dont do it kiddo. FreeMonk 01.11.2006 22:38 Well, I'm sorry if it sounded like I was defending people who pirate games, trust me I don't. I was just issuing an example. I hate guys that do that. The same thing can be said about Music, Movies etc etc. The trouble is that people can get away with it. If you steal a Ferrari or a Plasma Screen TV, the chances are that you will get caught. With pirating software, it's more difficult to stop, because they are doing it in the privacy of there own home, PLUS there are lots more people out there doing it than people stealing Ferrari's. The main point I am trying to get across is (in a round the bush way) is that companies need to down the prices of games. Yes, you do get a lot of entertainment for your buck, but my main gear grinder is that why does the price go up on games everytime a new console comes out. There's no need for it. Especially when games like Gun, Tony Hawk, King Kong etc etc are just ports from the X-Box and PS2 versions. That's my point. Or was it!? I've forgotten now! Unregistered - It doesnt matter to me. 01.12.2006 16:40 I could care less if people mod. Just be ready to face the consequences of what you do. For example: I got a friend to mod my xbox( yeah he knew what he was doing ) And it messed it up. I just dont trust is. Unregistered - The one kid who likes mods 02.25.2006 04:10 I have 3 kids and a house hold to keep up. My family struggles to make ends meet and i dont feel like we are any less deserving of these games than anyone else. It is outrageous at the price of these games. The price of the system itself is another. But keep on doin ur thing modder..and f the h8ers. Unregistered - Martin 02.27.2006 15:31 Hi it is a known fact that second hand sales and renting games is losing the video games industry millions, even more than piracy. this is because they only make one sale. the real people who suffer are not sony, microsoft and nintendo but the developers because they get paid pittance in royalties. most of the money goes back to the distributers. i don't blame people one bit for modding their consoles and downloading or copying the games. believe me, the retail price would be even higher if people did not play modded games. there are only a handful of games on the market that are decent enough to justify the rip off prices gamers are charged. most of them are not even worth £5.00 and are either repeats of old games with a bit better graphics, e.g. grand turismo 1, 2, 3, 4 etc. the other factor is that people who use copied games would never had bought the games in the first place! we have heard the same moaning from the games industry since the early days of the amstrad, spectrum and commodore computers that copying would destroy the games industry, when everyone was copying the games with a double tape deck because parents could not afford the prices back in the 80s. and guess what! the games industry is now a billion pound industry and is making more money than ever! incidently it costs less to develop and distribute a game than it does to make a music album or a film yet the price of games in the UK is £50.00! if the big corporate companies cut their prices to something affordable say £10.00-£15.00 a game and gave a higher proportion to the developers then we would see better games with more inovative ideas instead of the same rehashed product, for better value. also, how about releasing official versions of emulators with back catalogues like the nes, snes, megadrive etc instead of waiting for the modders to write emulators? why "lock down" consoles to not allow the public to play the games they want? console makers dream up and develop new copy protection schemes and advertise them as "unhackable" yet within a few weeks and months someone defeats it all. it seems the games industry has tried everything except cutting the price! 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