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23 Apr 2006 08:59 | Fender | Systems | Xbox 360 | Technology Xbox360News.com | Link to this article 
SmartComputing.com has recently posted at article about the power of the 360's GPU, explaining what exactly it can do when it's pushed to the limit. Very good read.
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Mighty Boob 04.23.2006 09:31 WOW 2 -
Another proof.......Unregistered - haha 04.23.2006 09:41 if microsoft hadn't hurried in launching the 360 they wouldn't need to update it's GPU so soon after launch, it just confirms how desperate they were to launch and HOPEFULLY (wishful thinking if u ask me) win the markt that sony dominates.. 3 -
asdf 04.23.2006 10:20 #2 What ARE you talking about? This is an analysis of the GPU that the 360 has had since launch day, and it finishes by saying that PC GPUs won't be able to match it at least until Windows Vista comes out, and they won't be able to match it in price for years. Not to mention the Unified Shader which the 360 has and the PS3 DOESN'T, which, the article makes clear, makes it simpler for developers AND makes the 360 more powerful and efficient at the same time. This is totally cool. Next time some idiot tells me that their $3000 computer is better than my 360, I'm sending them a link to this article. 4 -
former questionmark 04.23.2006 10:27 they are updating the cpu. only making it smaller and more cost efficient. CPU not GPU. 5 -
Unregistered - Deafman420 04.23.2006 10:33 Oh Well that settles it 6 -
@ hahaUnregistered - The M.A.R.T. 04.23.2006 10:37 Have you even read the article? Damn what a dumb ass comment on this interesting stuff. The things were already mostly known, but now it is also been translated to understand for noobs :) Anyhow, the PS3 GPU is a real sh*tty looking GPU now, like a Nvidia 7900 card, which is far, far inferior compared to the 360's GPU, especially when one reads that even the ATI 1900 XTX for the PC isn't as powerfull as the 360's GPU. The PS3/ATI 1900 XTX both doesn't have the Embedded memory that can support such a high transfer rate, and the unified shader models are also untouched, 48 in total in the 360's GPU compared to 24 normal pipelines of the PS3 GPU. It's for sure and these documents underwrite it all: the 360's GPU kicks ass big time. Just takes some months to produce the greatest graphics on this monster but the future is bright, very bright voor the XBOX 360 and MS! 7 -
Yes!!!!!Unregistered - g_CodeMonkey 04.23.2006 10:49 I can't wait for Gears of War!!! Then imagine what the 2nd gen of 360 games will show when the developers are using multiple cores effectively... The PS3 will be just arriving at that point with 1st gen games. It's a great time to be an adult with disposable income!!!!! 8 -
#2Unregistered - sa 04.23.2006 10:58 WTF are you talking about newb! Did you even read the article? GPU not CPU! And the CPU will perform better and will be cheaper, still same performance. Please try to do some research before you make yourself look retarded. 9 -
JibUnregistered - Jib 04.23.2006 11:08 what an idiot. the guy has his sony blindfold on and hes speaking out his ass. anyways, good read. 10 -
Hey # 2 ... "READ BEFORE YOU COMMENT"Unregistered - Fizzle 04.23.2006 11:32 What an turd muncher. I mean how stupid can one really be ??? Hey # 2, why not take this time to go and get a BIG glass of water to help wash down that foot you have in your mouth. Take you Anti-360 attitude out of here and put another pillow under your aZZ so you are nice and comphy "STILL WAITING" for your PS3. 11 -
.Unregistered - Whysocry 04.23.2006 11:43 This article is stupid, 22.4 GBps = xbox 360s memory bandwidth, whereas the x1900xtx can easily get to 100GBps with crossfire; as well shared ram, is not as fast as this douche thinks it is; at any time the GPU would be using [256; its a given for most demanding games today; why do you think it stutters so much in oblivion? RAM. .... 12 -
#11Unregistered - ee 04.23.2006 11:45 Thats only because Oblivion is naturally a pc port and not a true represensation of what the 360 can do or even close! As soon as developers start making and using game engines based on multithreaded games things will start to look different in a very big way! For being a port Oblivion still looks and runs pretty well but based on specs alone I think we should give the 360 a chance to show us what it can do once a game is created to take true advantage of it! 13 -
silent ninja 04.23.2006 12:42 the true power of the xbox 360 lies in the devs hands.you can have all this power in the gpu but if you can't use it then its useless. hopefully i hope the devs utilise the power to its limit.not like the xbox in which it was the most powerful console and yet not even 3/4 of its power was used.i hope we will see some trully next gen games this coming E3. AND NOT PC PORTS PEACE 14 -
#13Unregistered - mr.x 04.23.2006 13:05 3/4 ?? I don't think so. Some exclusives pushed out the maximum they could from xbox. 15 -
#13Unregistered - ee 04.23.2006 13:35 The xbox was pushed to it's maximum spec(bc,halflife2,riddick) and that was why this time they went with the optional hard drive! There are benefits to having a detachable harddrive and we will see those benefits whenever games need more! 16 -
pRo loGic II 04.23.2006 14:17 So the unreal engine gots room to grow?,crisis will make the 360 sweat 17 -
you don't know that!Unregistered - ee 04.23.2006 14:34 I dont think so prologic! just wait until they tap into 360 a couple of years from now and crysis although it does look good will look outdated! 18 -
You IGNORANT MotherF*ckersUnregistered - The One 04.23.2006 14:48 For the guys who said that the Oblivion is a port from a PC game, well guess what, last time i was on gamespot they had this comparisson between Oblivion on the 360 and the PC, and quite frankly, hands down the PC version was better looking. this brings me to the idiot who didn't even understand the article and that "when someone tells him that a $3000 PC is better than the 360, he would give them the link to this article" Well guess what a $3000 dollar PC is better than the 360, unless you wanna lick someone's a**hole, you know what i mean, and that goes for all of you out here who's been saying some stupid sh*t lately. You guys are fixated at between 3-6 years, because you simply can't take what other people say. I had a 360 and i sold it already, because MS doesn't provide my kind of games, it's simple. 95% FPS doesn't do it for me, bye bye. There are two more console that will hit the market, i won't sit here blindly and swallow every sh*t MS throws at me, no way i have choice. 19 -
silent ninja 04.23.2006 14:56 i agree with you guys but i think that the devs could have extract more power from the xbox if MS hadn't dumped it.and only about 5-10 games used the xbox power to the limit which is sad considering it was easy to program for as compared to ps2 PEACE 20 -
SweetMighty Boom 04.23.2006 15:00 Good read. 21 -
WOW!!!!!! #18DOLBY DI GA TAL pf 04.23.2006 15:21 I take it you don't like the 360!,if you had just waited there will be more games on the way.You should have waited till after E3 to sell it.I think PS2 will better suit you ,being the only system that will have any kind of selection for the next 1-2 years.Ginkoba: you should try it. 22 -
#18 and #6Unregistered - nirwanda 04.23.2006 15:45 the 360 isn't 95% fps in fact there are only 5 the 360 also has alot of dx10 feature that your $3000 pc graphic card won't have until vista comes out yes running 2/4 cards in a pc is in faster than a 360 could ever be but all your getting out of it is a high frame rate and resolution oblivion on the 360 and pc will be dx9 based they would have to be stupid to write two lots of code for each system and obviously they have shared the graphic resorces between the two games there are better examples of better graphic's on the 360 kameo at times looks amazing and far better than the blurry textures in oblivion also fight night and pgr3 look better as well even if oblivion is the best game on the system the pc will be better but only when vista comes out and then the dx9 crossfire setup will be out dated and will be supassed but eveything that will be out on the 360 in a year or two #6 the ps3 gpu won't be as good as a 7900 unlike the 360 only has a 128 bit bus were as the 360 and 7900 has a 256 bit bus it's supposed to be more like a 7600 with direct extensions to the cell like the 360 has extensions to it's cpu read this www.beyond3d.com second topic down 23 -
#18 Unregistered - ee 04.23.2006 15:57 It sounds more like you can't stand what other people have too say Azzhole! I can't believe how some of you people can come on here and take this stuff so personal! Get a life and get over it because these are only games! 24 -
TO 18xeon121 04.23.2006 16:33 what a retard you are oblivion is a port from the pc, a port meaning it was orignally developed for that media but was adapted to run on the 360, the pc may have slighty better graphics if you can afford £3000 gaming beast, that you will have to update within a year and a half, everthing else in oblivion is the exact same as the pc version, frame rate draw distance load times(unless you dont ahve the hard drive to help cache), if you sold your 360 fair enough mate if u want to wait till november for another next gen console great thats your choice but dont come rant here coz we dont care were to busy with manic grins on our faces becouse we just got out the dungon intro of oblvion and walked straight into next gen country. 25 -
To all that talk sh*tUnregistered - The M.A.R.T. 04.23.2006 17:32 Just read the damn article, I quote: "And even when current PC-based GPUs start catching up, it’s going to be extremely expensive to match the performance of this dedicated gaming platform. At the time of this writing, the top-level cards by ATI and Nvidia described in this article are retailing for around $560 apiece, and that’s without Unified Shading Architecture support or eDRAM. And of course, there are other aspects of the system to consider, such as the fact that the CPU and memory were custom-built for dedicated gaming performance. " At this moment, there's nothing that is as powerfull as the 360 GPU period. The PS3 GPU is weaker period. Unfortunately in the beginning of the 360 PC ports, just because the Devkits were not as long available to produce the games in total on the 360. They will with the upcoming 2nd generation titels. Just wait and one will be blown away totally. 360 rules, PS3 will die and even PC will bite the dust for some time, till over a few years the graphic cards with comparable capabilities will become main stream for a normal price 26 -
Unregistered - Scrooge 04.23.2006 18:20 PC gamers are geeks. Not the casual PC gamers, the dedicated ones who can tell you their computer's stats in less than 5 seconds. It's all such a rip off anyway! 27 -
PC or 360?Unregistered - Si_Pie 04.23.2006 19:08 I cant understand why people get so angry and insulting on here like #18. Why cant they just put THEIR opinion over and have done and everyone do the same. No need to get offended or angry and insulting. As for Oblivion well yes it stutters abit on the 360 but I wouldnt call it loads and definatly does not affect the game play and hey they will soon be bringing a patch out so who knows what effect that will have. As for what it would be best on a 360 or a PC that costs a thousand or two well im sure it would be the pc but for the minor difference is it worth spending the extra money? I dont think so. Im into PC gaming and have been for years and at one time never had a console until I got a xbox for £50 a few years ago and even though it wasnt as good as my pc for graphics and sound it was just so much more convienient. No more waiting for it to load then no more having to install the game. I still have a PC and do play some games on it like RTS games but have now got a 360. Yes a PC is great to have but to be honest I think for gaming a console is much more convienient and enjoyable in alot of ways. If I got 20 mins I can just switch on the 360 and withing a minute can be playing a game. This is just not possible with a pc. 28 -
ATI-XENOS / IF YOUR SILL SKEPTICAL ,IIIIIIIT'S"ALIVE!!!!!!!Unregistered - pRo loGic II 04.23.2006 19:52 Most PC graphics processors have to balance their output with the available bandwidth and as such their ROP units usually only cater for 2 Multi-Samples per pixel in a single cycle, and the Z output doesn't double with the number of Multi-Samples being produced either. Z and colour compression techniques are also employed in order to get close to the output capabilities with the bandwidth available. ATI's calculations lead to a colour and z bandwidth demand of around 26-134GB/s at 8 pixels with 4x Multi-Sampling AA enabled at High Definition TV resolutions. The lower end of that bandwidth figure is derived from having 4:1 colour and Z compression, however the lossless compression techniques are only optimal when there are no triangle edges intersecting a pixel, but with the presumed high geometry detail within a next generation console titles the opportunities for achieving this compression ratio across the entire frame will be reduced. So, with 256GB/s of bandwidth available in the eDRAM frame buffer there should always be sufficient bandwidth for achieving 8 pixels per clock with 4x Multi-Sampling FSAA enabled and as such this also means that Xenos does not need any lossless compression routines for Z or colour when writing to the eDRAM frame buffer. 360 IS KING/And my comment on crysis makeing 360 sweat was kinda a joke,did i spell it right this time.What i think personally,is that PS3 will look good-(KILLZONE if they can really pull it off)-but the 360 will be pulling all kinds of voodoo on ingame mechcanics.There will be much more going on in all aspects of the game--MY 2 cents thus making 360 a better canvas,it's up to the artist lol 29 -
Trickedbullet 04.23.2006 20:21 I believe anyone who has a 360 should also have a pc. They are somewhat compatable with each other. Remember, a pc is a pc. It is designed to do much more than play games. The 360 on the other hand is a pc made to play games only. Big difference. This will allow me to play rts games on the pc, and all other cool fighting, shooting, killing, bombing, bloody games on my 360. The pc is also very mysterious. For example, my pc could play Command and Conquer: Renagade abot a year ago. Now, suddenly, the same exact pc cannot play that game. It would install fine, start fine, and play for about 6 seconds before having an error and stop working unless I reinstalled and repeated. I even rebuilt the computer from scratch, including full redo of windows and every thing else, but it refused to work. I even downloaded a demo to see if my disc was the problem. The demo had the exact same problem. I finally got it to work by installing the game four times and uninstalling it each time untill it just started working. It worked for a couple weeks then stopped and has not worked since. Weird,huh? (By the way, all rts games should stay on the pc. As much as I would love them to be a new standard on the 360, I know noone who has the patience to play them. Even a game that is too tactical will not last long. Full Spectrum Warrior suffered a great deal due to this. The fact is that most pc gamers are more mature while pure console gamers are rude B@stards. I also know that there are a few cheatin' B@stards on the pc, but they are fewer and far in between. There are so very few honorable console gamers out there. So very few. ALL HAIL THE XBOX!!!! At least Microsoft doesn't lie out the @ss to its customers and make noncompatable versions of the same console. I would really not enjoy worrying about whether or not my console could play a game that was for my console, only to discover my version was too old to play a new game. How dumb is that? Now all I can do is pray that Sony loses the console war and gives up. I hope they bow before the almighty software god that is Microsoft. I want Bill gates to look at the maker of the ps2 and shout "Booya!" several times in public to that guys face. That would be an amazing momemt! Anyway, does any one else think that the ps3 is very ugly?I mean just very unpleasant to look at? With the xbox I feel like "man that things huge and heavy, but oh so awsome, like a tank!" With the 360 I fell like "Pretty to look at, Before It slaps you in the face with its awsomeness!" But with the ps3 I fell like "EWWWWW. Dam that thing is ugly. It literaly hurts my brain to look at." At the last E3 it looked ok standing up from the side, but from the front, on the floor or on a table, Uh! its ugly! 30 -
TAKE A DEEPER LOOK INSIDE 360Unregistered - kyseec 04.23.2006 20:54 If your a PS1-2 or 3 fan , and you don't think the 360 is next-gen U crazzzzy!if you must have proof go 2 teamxbox.com click xbox360 hub,go to the end of the page click upcoming games ,the link to the pics on the right of page go through A-Z and tell me thats not next-gen. 31 -
Unregistered - pop eyed pete 04.23.2006 21:11 i seen DARK SECTOR and know all this gpu stuff makes sense 32 -
FreeMonk 04.23.2006 21:37 At the end of the day, we all knew that the X360 was going to be powerful. Microsoft didn't hide behind closed doors, and show of fake "Demos" that were actually CGI. Microsoft came out and showed the world the true meaning of Next Gen gaming in real-time. So it's no suprise to me that Microsoft indeed release a fantasic piece of kit, which will stay around for a while, especially seeing that the Sony PS3 will probably be sold out for months if they decide to release worldwide in November like the 360 did. What worries me is that with all the extra added time that Sony has had while waiting for the Blu-Ray specs to be finalised and signed off, have they put any extra stuff inside there new console that has not yet been mentioned, which might blow the 360 out of the water graphically? It's definatly a possibility, especially since it's been all cloak and dagger stuff at Sony. My other concern is that Sony have also have a very competitive Online Service that matches X-Box Live! but offers it for FREE like the have done with there PS2 online service. If they offer the same level of quality like X-Box Live! but for free, it may steal some consumers away from purchasing a 360, because we all know that online gaming is the future of gaming. Sony are no stangers to stealing idea's from people, so they could easy just make a clone of Live! and put there own brand name on it, but make if Free. I'm not saying that the 360 is going to fail, because I think it will do the opposite and thrive, but my opinion is that people need to realise that the PS3 may be more powerful, even in little ways, plus it already has a massive fan base (most of which are little whiney fanboy kids!) The only damming thing for Sony will be the price and the supply of PS3's into stores. If Microsoft had a problem making consoles with just a few chips and a DVD Rom drive, what problems will Sony have with this Core Chip and Blu Ray drives? The future is very bright for MS, as long as they keep up with quality titles and also get some popular titles from Sony. Grand Theft Auto and new FF games would be an excellent start! 33 -
Unregistered - kyseec 04.23.2006 22:04 The Sony is part of a dying video game market stuck in the old ways of just trying to sell games MS building the games and the service around the people,all people thats why why they named it the 360, and i see that now.Sonys finished!,you got to check out these games read post #30 34 -
FreeMonk 04.23.2006 22:18 #33 - Oh, I totally agree with you (well, I think I do, because some of that was hard to read and understand!). The PS3 game "line-up" sounds like it's going to be yet another run of sequals, sequals and even more sequals. MGS4, Tekken, Final Fantasy 7, Killzone 2, Warhawk, Ratchet and Clank, Gran Turismo 5 etc etc. All loads of sequals. At least MS are being a little original. I'm not talking about third party sequals here, I'm talking about exclusive games to the console. Yeah, we've had Project Gotham Racing, and I think Top Spin 2, but other than that, it's been most original games all the way so far, plus a whole load of new ones on the way. Chromehounds, Dead Rising, Mass Effect, Too Human, Pray, Bioshock, Lost Planet, Gears of War, Viva Pinata etc all original, new titles that all look amazing in there own right. I will be disappointed if I see Sony's new console at the E3 show will a headline of sequals, because that's just lazy. That's just the Porsche way of doing things. 35 -
SORRY GUYS ONE MORE TIME ,IT'S FOR YOUR OWN GOODpRo loGic II 04.23.2006 22:43 War Devil is the best game i've seen period! it uses R.T.E1090 technology explain please! 36 -
FREE!?Trickedbullet 04.23.2006 22:51 Why would Sony make their online service free? Could they? The same quality of Xbox Live? FREE? With all the trouble, time, resources, staff, and so forth, they will make it free? Why then do I severly doubt it will be free? Wouldnt that end up making Sony kick themselves in the @ss every hour on the hour seven days a week, 365 days a year, for making it free? Come on, common sense is not only saying it will cost $$, but is screaming like a wild banshee, that it will cost you big $$. 37 -
FreeMonk 04.23.2006 23:09 I'm not sure if Sony will make it's online service free, but I remember reading not too long ago in one of the threads on this site about the Sony Online stuff for PS3 and it said that it might make it free and open ended, so that Sony would only run the front end of the Online experience, while the companies of the games do everything else. Whereas Microsoft do everything, hence the charge. Personally I think it's going to be very hard for Sony to topple Live! I'd rather pay MS £35 a year to play all games online rather than have a open ended Online service where each company that provides the game charges you to play there game online (like World of Warcraft on the PC). Even if Sony copy Live!, and charge a cheaper price, it could still nick customers. 38 -
OKUnregistered - jay 04.23.2006 23:46 still not convinced yet to go next=gen hav'nt seen a game yet what i have to play on 360 {some or interesting} waiting to see what halo 3 has to offer 39 -
FreeMonk 04.23.2006 23:56 ^^ - Just play Oblivion. That will change you mind! 40 -
AGEED #32pRo loGic II 04.24.2006 00:30 Thats alot of time! ,what i think is Sony trying to catch up,if not then it's just the BLU-Ray never the less they will try to out do MS with the extra time.On the plus side, for all we know MS might have some active x like downloads to upgrade the 360 ,yah but blu-ray buying sony time is not good but they haft to mod the PS3 in that time or ps3 is done for. 41 -
pRo loGic II 04.24.2006 00:32 How do you do it JAY? 42 -
Some ignorant people hereUnregistered - Desh 04.24.2006 01:08 First off guys lets get something straight here. Elder Scrolls Oblivion was a pc port for the 360. Elder Scrolls on the 360 looks EXACTLY as it does on a high end pc, but due to anisotrophic filtering and alot more than 512MB of ram on a high end pc certain details such as grass may be noticed further than it would on the 360, but why that isn't because the pc is better. Anyone here even know that the 360 version of elder scrolls uses HDR + AA whereas the pc version doesn't? Elder Scrolls as amazing as it looks isn't using a multi-threaded game engine built specifically for the 360 which is what is needed to properly take advantage of the console. Elder Scrolls isn't even graphically pushing the 360's gpu as great as it looks :) Too human, Mass Effect, Gears of War, Blue Dragon, Brothers in Arms 3 and many other games as great as they look wont be graphically pushing the 360's gpu either. The only known multi-threaded game engine available is the unreal 3 engine, but even that engine is a warmup engine for the 360 and ps3. Elder Scrolls on the 360 looks exactly as it does on a High End PC. Not only that people haven't begun to take advantage of the 360's amazing videocard as of yet. Its capable of alot of directx 10 features that have yet to be used in any games. Just imagine what bungie is going to do with the 360? Or what other developers will do with the 360 later on down the road? Microsoft has absolutely nothing to worry about and why is that exactly? They have 256GBps of VIDEO MEMORY BANDWIDTH FOR GOD SAKES. No pc gpu is touching that for quite possibly 2 to 3 years and quite possibly wont hit that number in 3 years time either. The ps3 gpu has absolutely nothing on the 360's gpu. "Vertex shaders impact the values of the lines that make up a polygon. They are what determine how realistic animation of polygons and wireframe models will look: the swagger of a walking character, for instance, or the rolling tread of a tank as it crushes an android skull laid to waste on a charred battleground." Remember that quote late 2007 early 2008 when developers really begin to start getting a handle on the 360's videocard. 43 -
Unregistered - hoosiredaddy 04.24.2006 01:26 very very....very good ready 44 -
RETURN OF THE JEDIUnregistered - REDMOND BOYZ 04.24.2006 03:00 Microsoft's first try at a gaming console amounted to essentially a very affordable PC. It used standard PC components, including a mobile Intel processor (a hybrid Pentium 3/Celeron), a desktop NVIDIA chipset, a Western Digital hard drive and relatively standard PC DVD-ROM. The original Xbox was such a PC in fact that there were quite a few users that wanted to mod it simply to have a cheap PC, not even for gaming - including ourselves. Before the Xbox was launched, Microsoft was very concerned with users thinking of the Xbox as nothing more than a PC branded as a gaming console, so it went to great lengths to reduce the association. For example, the strict ban on keyboard and mouse support, despite the fact that the console implemented the standard USB interface. With the Xbox 360, Microsoft gained some benefits of the original Xbox success. Xbox didn't win the sales battle against Sony's PlayStation 2, but the first Xbox was strong enough to cement Microsoft's name in the world of console gaming manufacturers. For their second time around, there is less worry of the Xbox 360 being viewed as a just a PC, so Microsoft took a bolder approach. Honestly, with the Xbox 360, Microsoft could have put forth another PC in a black box and it probably would have done fine. But with their second gaming console, the target was growth -- and Sony. With an established name and fanbase, it was time to take the market seriously and start to exert some dominance and thus the Xbox went from being a clunky black box of a PC, to a stylish consumer electronics device 45 -
GOOD NIGHT ,AND GOOD LUCK!DOLBY DI GA TAL pf 04.24.2006 03:16 THE XBOX360 REMINDS ME OF CASEY RYBACK~THE COOK" IN UNDER-SIEGE. 46 -
comment 2Unregistered - tommy 04.24.2006 03:32 WTF r u thick or something,they were describing the power of the gpu and what it could do,did u read it u dumb sh#t 47 -
To all disbelieversUnregistered - The M.A.R.T. 04.24.2006 03:58 It's quite simple. Read the freaking article and it will be clear the specially designed 360 GPU tops the PS3 pumped up Nvidia 7900 dated GPU and the PC GPU's for now and the last one still for some time in the future. That combined with the fact that this machine is optimalized for gaming, it will even perform stuff that a PC isn't capable off with the same capability videocard in time. The most important thing is however that games are not ported from another format, but are build on the 360 Devkit. I forsee that the games will be build on the 360 Devkit from now, just look how fast they build the first Gears of War in game first look last year. There's a video around that they did it in only two weeks. Bet the PC gets ported games from the 360 in time! Furthermore, remember all those that say they didn't see exclusive next gen games up till now: there are quit some games that are next gen in their own area's for sure. At least: I haven't seen them around on the 'last' gen consoles or on PC. Kameo, PGR3, GRAW (allright, this one is on PC also), Fight Night Round 3 and some others it is a better line up for a launch of a console then there ever has been. No one can argue that with REAL arguments for sure. They simply can't. The PS2 line up sucked compared to this big time. And it's true, the real next gen will be the second wave of games, just because the first build games have been build even when the real 360 hardware/Devkits weren't available. Just imagine, one city in PGR3 takes months, maybe a year to build. There are multiple cities in the game. They started building it a long time before the console was made, so those games are even ported although they are exclusive. That's why the FSAA wasn't in there and more things. THe good thing is, when Sony THINKS to launch the PS3 in the end of this year, MS/360 will have a major head start by having already explored the 360 hardware for a year and real good next gen graphics and IA/gameplay will start to arrive. It will kick the stupid Nvidia 7900 souped up GPU of the PS3 big time and hard. 360 will rule, it has a untouchable GPU at the moment and a triple core CPU and more for only 299 or 399 EUro's/Dollars and will be the major gaming platform. Go and get it, play it, love it 48 -
Unregistered - ryan 04.24.2006 04:28 Specs don't matter. It's all about the games. Unless MS can lockup a diverse group of exclusive games (ie something besides first person shooters), it wont matter how superior the system is. Games will still be released for both platforms, looking nearly identicle. Microsoft needs exclusive titles to really show its muscle... 49 -
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@ #48Unregistered - The M.A.R.T. 04.24.2006 08:21 Don't worry, they will come. MS knows what's important. And as said before, the launch titels are the most rock solid as seen up till know compared to any console launch. PGR3 Kameo Perfect Dark Zero Condemned Fight Night Round 3 Dead or Alive 4 No console ever had such a solid launch line up. That combined with the upcomming exclusive titels as: Gears of War Saint's Row Viva Piniata Moto GP '06 Death Rising Too Human And so much more (I even expect GTA come up as an exclusive on the 360, MS has enough money to do so and it would give such a big blow in Sony's face). I am convinced the 360 has both the GPU strength above others as they will have the best games 52 -
Yo Wassap 04.24.2006 09:14 i don't get it, people get a new console just after it's launched and then get angry that there are no games. THE GAMES HAVE TO FU**ING COME OUT FIRST! Shish, whenhever a knew system comes out they complain of not enough games yet at the end of the consoles life it has 200+ games! Stop complaining d#ckwads who sold their 360s because of lack of games! 53 -
SONY DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR DOINGUnregistered - XBOX360000000000000000000000 04.24.2006 12:06 SONY AND NVIDIA NEEDS TO LEARN FROM MICROSOFT AND ATI WHEN IT COMES TO CPU AND GPU.WHY YOU THINK NINTENDO WITH ATI TOO!ATI IS DOING THE RIGHT WAY OF BALANCING OUT THE UNIFIED FORMAT FOR XBOX360 INSTEAD OF JUST THROWING GPU CARDS HERE AND THERE AND THATS IT. UNLIKE SONY AND NVIDIA.MICROSOFT KNOWS WHAT TO DO. THE XENON MULTI-CORE IS THE WAY TO GO PERIOD.MICROSOFT NEXT SYSTEM IN 4-5 YEARS IT WILL PROBABLY BE SIX-CORES INSTEAD OF THREE.WE UNDERSTAND HERE AT XBOX360NEWS THAT SONY LIKES TO HAVE THE MUSCLE FOR THINGS BUT YOU DON'T NEED THAT UGLY CELL-CHIP TO MAKE NEXT GEN GAMES OR BLU-RAY. ALTHOUGH IT'S NICE TO SEE A NEW DISC FORMAT.LIKE MICROSOFT SAID MORE BRUCE LEE LESS HULK.MICROSOFT LEARN FROM THE FIRST XBOX THAT HARDWARE DON'T MEAN NOTHING.IS SONY PS3 INCREDIBLE HULK OR WHAT I THINK SO.BUT MORE DEVELOPERS ARE JUMPING INTO MICROSOFT MACHINE.DEVELOPERS KNOW THERE IN FOR SOMTHING SPECIAL WITH THE XBOX360.ALL I HAVE TO SAY IS THAT SONY IS IN TROUBLE.MAYBE SONY WILL LEARN FROM THEIR MISTAKES WITH PS4 NEXT TIME AROUND WHICH I DOUBT.ANYWAY BY THE TIME PS3 COMES OUT XBOX360 WILL ALREADY HAVE THE LEAD.PS3 WILL BE LIKE THE NEXT NEO-GEO WHEN IT COMES TO COST I BELIEVE PS3 WILL COST LIKE $599 0R $699.IM OUT XBOX360 FAN.OH YEAH SONY STOP BEING AN COPYCAT AND DO YOUR OWN PLANNING.LETS SAY WORLDWIDE LAUNCH,ONLINE GAMING COME ON.LIKE J.ALLARD SAID SONY WILL BE CHASING MICROSOFT FOR A VERY LONG TIME.SONY GET OFF MICROSOFT Di$%. 54 -
#53Unregistered - The M.A.R.T. 04.24.2006 12:40 Can you freaking please GET YOUR CAPSLOCK SWITCHED OFF??? Damn it's even less readable to read and one doesn't have to shout constantly to be heard 55 -
#18 Unregistered - buck 04.24.2006 18:06 haha, #18 is from the ghetto 56 -
360 IS A BEASTUnregistered - famo 04.25.2006 12:01 E3 MS will announce free xbox live gold. They plan on doing the same as Sony and will make it free before the ps3 launches. They plan on advertising on the dashboard to make it free for you! I am glad to hear the 360 gpu is bad a@@. I am not worried about the delaystation3. Sure they might have something new but I hate all the sequals and their games. I love FPS and the RPG'S that will be coming out on the 360 also all the exclusives and GTA is highly likely. MS might announce that at E3 I hope. Can't wait! Also a rumor of the HD drive add on is only 100$ that would be sweet. I guarantee online will be free though. I love how the companys compete its great for us consumers!! Add Comment |
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