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20 Aug 2005 07:31 | Dusty | Xbox 360 Xbox360News.com | Link to this article
A very odd Xbox 360 website has just appeared online, with a clock counting down, but to what!?! We have no idea what this means, only that the site is indeed made by Microsoft and in 37 days, 22 hours, 36 minutes and 39 seconds something big is going to happen for sure! If I have done the math right that would be september 27th. I have looked up the whois info about this site to see if it could be fake, but all the info is correct so the site is real and owned by Microsoft. Click here to visit the website. .................................................................... Domain Name: origenxbox360.com Created on..............: Tue, Aug 09, 2005 Expires on..............: Wed, Aug 09, 2006 Record last updated on..: Tue, Aug 09, 2005 Registrant: Microsoft Corporation Domain Administrator One Microsoft Way Redmond, WA 98052 US ................................................... Note that the tree looks like one of those Japanese bonsai trees, which could hint at something to do with Japan. The sculpture to the right of the tree looks like a rabbit, Alice in Wonderland anyone? Please post your best guesses in the comment section below so we can work this one out together! Looks like this could be another OurColony kind of marketing stunt from the Xbox team NB!!! Below are clues and guesses submitted by our readers. None of this information is confirmed true or false. Update 2: The name of the site is Origen Xbox360, so what hints could be hidden in the word Origen. The word Origen is a spanish word for Origin, which comes from the latin word Origo which means "beginning". Here is a link to the Wikipedia description of the word Origin below if anyone one wants to dig for clues. If I am not mistaking Microsoft has promised earlier to reveal some big surprise for the Japanese market this fall, so could this be it? Will the Xbox 360 be launched in Japan first? I doubt it as September 27th is way to early, as developers will need more time to complete their games. Update 3: It apears that the word Origen also is the name of a great Christian theologians. Don't know yet if we will find any clues here but here is a link for more info about Origen. Update 4: I have added another screenshot which shows what will appear on the site when the clock reaches 0. Update 5: One of our readers is in fact part of the team that made the site, and he has given us some clues. Clue one - "i can provide you guys with some info, im on the team that designed this site, is something related with circles. thats all i can say. NG Clue two - "ok, what do you find when yo cut tree in half and see it by the top?(HD) another detail,youll see something different with the rabbit(HD)so check it from time to TIME(HD), the team which worked on the ourcolony website are involved on this. Clue: 2 systems, and a entire universe to explore. NG " Update 6: Ok let's sum things up. We think it has something to do with Japan because of the bonsai tree. We can also draw connections to Alice in Wonderland because of the rabbit. Which makes the comments about the circles and "universe to explore" even more interesting when you think of the phrase " "spiraling down the rabbit hole" . And if you look at the console packaging it does indeed look like the rabbit hole. But what does it mean? Update 7: More clues posted by the MS guy. "We are living in a world of digital entertainment, in a world were all reality is going to be virtual and the only thing needed to create at that time would be our own imagination" -Tree RINGS reveals the years of the tree while he is also the CENTER of that virtual world. -[J].A.E* 11=fun for A,J and E* 9=fun for J not for A or E* *(important) NG" Update 8: A suggestion from one of our readers is getting some attention. Wes wrote, Hang on a sec. If you use the thing the MS guy said, and use the numbers as month dates, ie: 9 = sept, and 11 = Nov. Then use A, J and E as the continents: A =America, J = Japan, E = Europe . 11=fun for A,J and E* 9=fun for J not for A or E This could be saying that 11 (or November) is when something to do with the 360 will be in all 3 places. and that in 9 (or sept), something is happening in Japan, not America or Europe. 9th month (sept), is when the countdown will end. Update 9: When you right click on your mouse and click forward a couple of times the new pic appears as posted earlier. First I thought the word that came up also was Origen. However, looks like it also could be Ougen (this is the pic where the rabbit is gone). Note :Most of our readers thinks it is Origen, and that it only looks like it says Ougen because it is written in another font. So the whole Ougen clue is most likely miss-leading. Update 10: Who wrote this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origenxbox360? Note : Wikipedia.org can be edited by anyone so don't trust it! Update 11: You can now also discuss this in our Xbox forum at ZTGD Update 12: Latest interesting comments by our readers: Kimble 08.20.2005 05:28 The word origen unscrambles to region. The rabbit almost looks like a map of different regions (countries) squished together with two dots marking cities. Wes 08.20.2005 07:03 Im still hangin on the idea of origen linking to the word origin - meaning beginning. this links somewhat to japan, as japan was the beginning of videogaming. JNW911 08.20.2005 08:16 Hey Guys, I'm not sure if this is at all relevant, but the rabbit is the zodiac symbol for both chinese/japanese for the year 1999. The first xbox was in beta status during this year in october. And isn't the xbox360 in beta status now?? I dont know.. plus the source code has a link with 1999 in it(leads nowhere though). Maybe the rabbit zodiac/1999/beta thing is coincidence :) Anyone? Wes?? Wes 08.20.2005 08:24 JNW, you could be onto something. the meaning of zodiac is a 12 band eliptical thing in astrology. Each band is 30 degrees in this zodiac. This possibly ties straight to the XBOX 360 bein the rabbit. (30 times 12 is 360) Update 13: Some sort of log in page has been discovered - Note: We have logged in to the site and it is just the old Xbox press site. The two sites are on the same web server which explains this. https://www.origenxbox360.com/default.asp Thanks Matt / PlanetXbox360 Update 14: There is strange hidden text on the log in page - "DURING THE BUILD UP TO THE RACE THERE WILL BE 1000+ LONDON WIDE, RUNNING CLINICS. NINE SWAT TEAM THAT TURN UP, MORNING (GYMS), LUNCHTIMES (TUBE STATIONS), EVENING (TUBE STATIONS). THEY'LL LOOK AFTER YOUR BAGS, SPLIT THE GROUP UP INTO VARYING STANDARDS, GIVE ADVICE AND THEN GO ON RUNS" What does this mean? Update: Seems to be a connection http://www.runlondon.com/nikeruns/ Most likely same web designer that just used some random text on the log in page , it was most likely put there to look cool and nothing more. Update 15: The last clue - Microsoft is counting down to something, and it must be something at least a little bit interesting or else they would never have made the site. The designers of the site didn’t put the tree and the rabbit signpost there because it looks cool, it has some kind of meaning but what? Well, that is what we are trying to find out. We know the timer show a different number depending on where you are located and the right one I believe counts down to September 27th at 12:00 midnight in Japan. Bill Gates has stated from the very beginning that Japan is their number one priority. Here is a quote from Peter Moore, marketing and publishing corporate vice president of Microsoft's home and entertainment division, "I've always said Japan is a vitally important market for the Xbox platform and with this next generation Japan is right at the center of the Xbox 360 universe," he said. "Now, as many of you will remember, I have stood before you in previous years and acknowledged our past challenges. Since then we have been taught lessons that only the world's most developed gaming market can teach. We have applied the resulting Japanese education to the development of Xbox 360." "Let me be clear, this time the rest of the world is starting to realize that Xbox 360 is a real contender right here in Japan. That is a very important point because I know success in this country is the ultimate tribute to the compelling power of our platform," Moore said. So it may look like that the Origen website is dedicated to Japan and something Microsoft plans to reveal to the Japanese market September 27th at 12:00 midnight. The next and biggest question of course is what on earth is Microsoft planning to announce to the Japanese gamers? Many of you have guessed that Microsoft will announce HD DVD for Xbox 360, or that they will show Halo 3? Or maybe they have been working on something that is completely unknown, and made with the Japanese gamers in mind. Something similar to Xbox Live, but for something completely different, something that would prove very popular in Japan? Seriously who plays train simulator games in US or Europe, however they are extremely popular in Japan. My point being that Japan is a strange world and if you want to be successfull there you must understand the Japanese culture and way of life. MS clearly failed with understanding complexity of the Japanese culture when they launched the Xbox, and as the MS guy said "When you didn't capture the attention of someone in the past, next time in the future, do it bigger and smarter, then they will put attention on what you are trying to offer" So could Microsoft have made some kind of service for the Xbox 360 that is designed especially with the Japanese gamers in mind? All we know for sure is that Microsoft is not going to tell until the countdown reaches 0, after all that is kind why they put it there in the first place. NB!!! : These are only wild guesses made by our readers and nothing more. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Add Comment Unregistered - John 08.20.2005 08:05 I see the high def tree and the rabit ting, but wheres the clock counting down? i cant see it. =S Unregistered - MS 08.20.2005 08:25 i can provide you guys with some info, im on the team that designed this site, is something related with circles. thats all i can say. NG Unregistered - JA1230 08.20.2005 08:34 circles?!!? This is like the ourcolony stuff for sure Unregistered - That Guy 08.20.2005 08:40 We must be in different time zones, because the site has different numbers for me. BTW, it's counting down to September 27th at 12:00 noon Eastern Standard Time. Unregistered - Josh 08.20.2005 08:48 i dont know what that meant but maybe they decided to release 2 months early lol Unregistered - Josh 08.20.2005 08:52 if this has anything2 do with it...the website was made the same day X05 location was revealed. Unregistered - john 08.20.2005 09:09 I can see the clock. Im usin an LCD TFT and i couldnt see it unless i tilt the screen up a bit =P Unregistered - MS 08.20.2005 10:02 ok, what do you find when yo cut tree in half and see it by the top?(HD) another detail,youll see something different with the rabbit(HD)so check it from time to TIME(HD), the team which worked on the ourcolony website are involved on this. Clue: 2 systems, and a entire universe to explore. NG Unregistered - Ben 08.20.2005 10:28 Wow! Okay, this is really weird. Obviously MS isnt going to give us the 360 unless we think really really hard. Alright, well, I dont have HD so wat does happen when you cut the tree in half? And does anyone have the URL for the ourcolony site and is it still working? Anyway, maybe they will release the core set on Sept. 27, and then the premium package later. I have no clue. Unregistered - JP 08.20.2005 10:36 Maybe it has something to do with cycles?? The 360 and the first Xbox maybe in some cycle. Cycles is all I know. Unregistered - Ben 08.20.2005 10:45 If it helps, I went to Thesarus.com and searched circle. Here is wat it came up with. amphitheater, aureole, band, belt, bowl, bracelet, Circlet, circuit, circumference, circus, cirque, coil, colure, compass, cordon, corona, crown, cycle, disc, disk, ecliptic, enclosure, equator, full turn, globe, halo, hoop, horizon, lap, meridian, orbit, parallel, perimeter, periphery, record, revolution, ring, ringlet, round, sphere, stadium, tire, turn, vortex, wheel, wreath, zodiac The significant ones i think are halo, disc, cycle, and maybe revolution. Unregistered - Greg 08.20.2005 10:47 Well, we heard of a secret feature in the XBOX 360, maybe MS will announce on that day that the DVD drive actually supports HD-DVDs. That would seem to fit with previous rumors and all the current clues, circles and all. Unregistered - Sammy 08.20.2005 10:48 when you cut a tree in half and look at the top you see the rings of how old the tree is. I think that we are supposed to relate this to the actuall xbox 360 information ring on the system Unregistered - Eddie 08.20.2005 11:08 well, obviously, this is leading to something big, and they have said there will be changes to the website, so mayb the tree will grow and the rabbit will grow also. and show somethin that we can not see right now. Unregistered - Wes 08.20.2005 11:19 Ok, look at the Xbox360 packaging, circles are used on it, which resemble the circles found inside the stump of a tree. Im guessing that these circles are either relating to a count down (to a possible release date, or another exhibition date (like the Summit)), or to the idea that the Xbox360 universe is thought to be a neverending experience, in the way that a circle has no end. The strangeness of the site might have something to do with the uncertainty of the 360's release date, which is why i'm assuming that it could count down directly to a time when the Xbox360's release date is confirmed. Unregistered - Ed Shannon 08.20.2005 11:24 Add the Rings to the Core system and what do you get? Unregistered - colin 08.20.2005 11:27 i dont no y but when i cliked on the pic to save it it made a funny churping noise Unregistered - Xtrm 08.20.2005 11:28 Maybe the circles represent the power button on the X360 with a possible “ahead of schedule” scenario. It may have something to do with HD-DVD to be announced in X360 but I doubt that because were not even sure what the Next gen disk format will be, I don’t think M$ is willing to take that kind of a risk. My best guess would be it has something to do with a circle above an angels head with the number “3” after it. BTW I also have a flat panel LCD monitor & I can’t see the count down clock. Unregistered - Chuffster 08.20.2005 11:28 Where`s the timer? Unregistered - Wes 08.20.2005 11:29 the more rings you get the older it is. With age comes size. And the extra rings (or size), could point to the hard drive. Unregistered - Eddie 08.20.2005 11:33 well clue #1 has somethin 2 do with "circles". as another user said, circles could also be meant as "halo", . . . . HALO3??? But this could also be somethin to do with convention that will be held in japan sometime in september. Mayb they will release the something. Possibly halo3, an actual date, actual list of release titles, mayb a cheaper price, "although they are already given great prices", mayb even better pieces of technology that will be in the 360 that no one knows about. Quite possibly mayb even a release for the 360, the premium pack, not the core system, that would really piss me off if they released the core system on that date and we have 2 wait for the premium pack. If anyone can help out with this, that would be appreciated. Unregistered - Wes 08.20.2005 11:36 I still think the circles are linked directly to the console, not any games... as the resemblence between the rings on a tree stump, and the rings on the console packaging is very unlikely to be coincedence. Unregistered - Eddie 08.20.2005 11:38 so what do u mean? i mean what are u tryin 2 say about the circles and the HDD. What could it mean? Unregistered - colin 08.20.2005 11:39 if u look closely at the bunny it looks like there is poosebly sumthing behind it ther is a pole under its feet. anouther thing wen i went to the sight it saed 38 00 28 49 Unregistered - Wes 08.20.2005 11:44 As a tree gets older, it grows larger, and with it's increased age and size, more rings appear. So the abundance of circles on a large tree could relate to the HDD (with it's large memory), which is why i think this date could be directly linked to the 360 itself. Unregistered - Dusty 08.20.2005 11:45 I am trying to keep up here so I just updated some more info. "Ok let's sum things up. We think it has something to do with Japan because of the bonsai tree. We can also draw connections to Alice in Wonderland because of the rabbit. Which makes the comments about the circles and "universe to explore" even more interesting when you think of the phrase " "spiraling down the rabbit hole" . And if you look at the console packaging it does indeed look like the rabbit hole. But what does it mean? " Unregistered - MS 08.20.2005 11:46 "We are living in a world of digital entertainment, in a world were all reality is going to be virtual and the only thing needed to create at that time would be our own imagination" -Tree RINGS reveals the years of the tree while he is also the CENTER of that virtual world. -[J].A.E* 11=fun for A,J and E* 9=fun for J not for A or E* *(important) NG Unregistered - Bob Sanchez 08.20.2005 11:47 I think this means that on sept. 27th xbox 360 will be canceled and xbox will be investing in sony lol. I guess we will have to wait and see. Unregistered - colin 08.20.2005 11:49 hold on y would the xsperation date be in 2006 wen the count down is im september suppos there might be anouther count down? Unregistered - Sammy 08.20.2005 11:52 i think that it hs something to do with halo. Im thinking htat maybe microsoft and bungie are going to maybe to release a special version of halo for the Xbox. Also if you seach on Bungies clan search you can find that there is a clan called Origen that havnt play and matches at all pointing to a clue maybe Unregistered - Xtrm 08.20.2005 11:53 “The more rings you get the older it is. With age comes size. And the extra rings (or size), could point to the hard drive.” (On the core system). I believe he’s right on the money with an early release date for the core system & the HDD thrown in there. Think about it, this is a very smart marketing plan for M$ because there will always be impatient people who just can’t wait so willingly to sacrifice the bargains on the better Xbox 360 package that comes out later. Unregistered - Dusty 08.20.2005 11:57 I must leave for a short while so I will not be able to update the article for a while with any new inforamtion that you guys come up with. But keep guessing, as I will try to make some more updates later today. Unregistered - Wes 08.20.2005 12:01 Another reason I think the hard drive is key here, is because, (using my tree idea with the rings), on the core system , there is much less space taken up by rings on the packaging then on the real system. The extra space of rings could link to the extra space of memory? Unregistered - Sammy 08.20.2005 12:04 but wat about the rabbit Unregistered - Wes 08.20.2005 12:06 yeah i was thinking about the rabbit. And i think the 'Alice in Wonderland' idea could be right, as that plot was very strange, and I think the strangeness ties in well with the fact that there is much confusion about the Xbox360's release date, and the meaning of the countdown. Unregistered - Patrick 08.20.2005 12:15 Well.. i see the counter has gone to 38 days ...? Unregistered - Red 08.20.2005 12:23 they did just add a day Unregistered - Annonymous 08.20.2005 12:25 Mine is sittin on 37.18.33.48 Unregistered - red 08.20.2005 12:29 Its a countdown to the first official Halo 3 Trailor, I'm almost 100% sure. the staff at bungie.net are always talkin about their next project and how they can really talk about it. Unregistered - Red 08.20.2005 12:30 Maybe its just the launch of the 360 magazine Unregistered - Xtrm 08.20.2005 12:31 The rabbit is a decoy, the trojan rabbit. OK let’s think about it, what is in the center of the tree? The CORE. Now what do they call the basic X360? The CORE System. Ok so what do the rings represent around the core on the tree? Extra layers! Maybe the Bonsai tree represent Japanese companies that make dual layer HD disk format (HD-DVD or possibly even Blu-Ray) will be announced to go into the Xbox 360! Huh huh thank you I’ll take my bow now. Unregistered - Wes 08.20.2005 12:38 He could have it there (except with the trojan rabbit :S). If it is a countdown to that, the fact that they havnt stated the new dvds yet and are using a countdown instead, could be to make publicity for the 360. Unregistered - buzyb77 08.20.2005 12:39 The Tree Represents the True Xbox 360 and all it Potental. The Crappy Rabit IS the Xbox 360 Core System.(its Color is the Hint) The tree Will Grow Long after the Rabit is Fast rabbit is Dead. Unregistered - Djgenki 08.20.2005 12:43 I think I figured it out, The tree is there and the rabbit like eats the tree and then the rabbit poops the tree out and his poop gets absorbed in the earth and then goes back to the tree for the rabbit to eat again. It makes a full 360! Wheres my cookie Unregistered - Annonymous 08.20.2005 12:44 But why would microsoft say that the core system was rubbish. They would mke heaps more money if everyone bought the core systm, and all the extras seperate. And whts wth th countdwn?? Unregistered - JL 08.20.2005 12:56 Something about the last clue. What is the capacity of a DVD? 9. So, would the J in that clue have something to do with DVD capacity? Huh? If this is true, then what does the A and E* represent? I am thinking that it has something to do with the HD-DVD that everyone is talking about. Unregistered - brian 08.20.2005 12:57 i think some of you already know this but if you right click on the page and select forward, i different page will appear. BUT, this only works if you right click and select forward 5 times. meaning on the 5th time, the new page will appear. to go back to the home pack, just select rewind. Unregistered - hmm 08.20.2005 12:59 WIFI like in rings around the core.... Unregistered - Shabazz 08.20.2005 13:02 It might be that the 360 can read HD-DVD disks. If the DVD can hold up to 9 gigs, how many gigs can a HD-DVD hold? Is it 30 gigs or something like that? Now think about how what happens if you add 9, 11, and 11. Something like 31. Maybe the announcement will be that both 360 systems will be able to use HD-DVDs. Madonna should sing "take a bow" to me right about know. Unregistered - Sammy 08.20.2005 13:09 Darnet i feel like the answer is right on the tip of my tounge Unregistered - Wes 08.20.2005 13:10 Hang on a sec. If you use the thing the MS guy said, and use the numbers as month dates, ie: 9 = sept, and 11 = Nov. Then use A, J and E as the continents: A =America, J = Japan, E = Europe . 11=fun for A,J and E* 9=fun for J not for A or E This could be saying that 11 (or November) is when something to do with the 360 will be in all 3 places. and that in 9 (or sept), something is happening in Japan, not America or Europe. 9th month (sept), is when the countdown will end. Unregistered - Sammy 08.20.2005 13:14 holy crap good job man. i raise my glass to you for that. Unregistered - John Crabb 08.20.2005 13:14 On a 360 Sell Sheet, I counted 42 rings behind a picture of the system. That could mean something. In comment 7, "fun" was mentioned which makes me think games. Core could mean your the center of your gameing universe. "years" = more rings = impoved gameplay = bigger/better. Unregistered - Xtrm 08.20.2005 13:15 Maybe the J.A. could represent J. Allard or something along those lines, but I'm really sure of the other names except for Ken Katawhatever the hell his name is. Unregistered - Sammy 08.20.2005 13:16 so basically now we just need to i guess wait a little bit to see what happens to the rabit so that we can finish up this puzzle Unregistered - Eddie 08.20.2005 13:16 ok, a tree is the meaning of life. if it wernt for trees, we would not have oxygen, we wouldnt have fruit to eat from, or we wouldnt have wood or paper, or even shade mac on our women! :) So if the mayb the tree aka xbox360, will spread all of these things around like games, xboxlive, entertainment, the tree is the 360 and the rabbit is just a little p***k, since i cant figure out what he means, yet. And the hd discs could be a possibility, i mean not to rag on M$, but i can think of alot of times when they didnt tell the whole truth. I bet there is alot they are hiding, b/c they keep goin on how they have the most powerful system, yet with what sony's piece of shit 3 has in it, it almost looks like they have alot more power in it. Unregistered - Xtrm 08.20.2005 13:17 I think you just nailed it Wes. Unregistered - eddie 08.20.2005 13:18 amazing job Wes Unregistered - Sammy 08.20.2005 13:18 but what could happen for Japn in September Unregistered - mark 08.20.2005 13:19 my moneys on comment 51. well done! Unregistered - vulcan 08.20.2005 13:21 isn't the Tokyo game show in september. Unregistered - Shabazz 08.20.2005 13:21 Could the Rabbit be the player? Since the rabbit is gone when the timer hits 0, could mean that xbox live will be global. This might mean that we can play against everyone in E=Europe, J=Japan, and A=America. What do you guys think? Unregistered - Wes 08.20.2005 13:21 I think that they will announce the HD DVD possibly happening in Japan (as the Japanese will be making it if it happens). This could be when the disks are started to be made, The origin of the HD DVD could be here. And the circles could represent the way a DVD spins in a system? Unregistered - Xtrm 08.20.2005 13:22 Maybe Japan gets raped by deadly rabits in september. Unregistered - Shabazz 08.20.2005 13:22 Ms will make the annoucement in in 9 September, that xbox live will be global to J, A, and E. Yes! Unregistered - Eddie 08.20.2005 13:22 ok, when he says in the clue that he is the center of the gaming universe, that means the person with controller in there hands, and who is playin the 360. At E3 this past spring, J, allard,(if that is how u spell it) said that "we want 2 put u at the center of the gaming universe with x360" Unregistered - Sammy 08.20.2005 13:23 of course the first countdown will represent the announcement of probably the hddvd in Japan. Then they will have another countdown for the American release of the 360 in November. Unregistered - Eddie 08.20.2005 13:24 for the record, there is a convention goin down in japan this september lets atleast get that down Unregistered - Pink T 08.20.2005 13:25 On this article it says that the count thing was at 37 days, 22 hours, 36 minutes and 39 seconds now when i lok at it it says... 38.00 35 25 which would make it seem like it is counting up?!?! Unregistered - Sammy 08.20.2005 13:25 I dont know about that. Im thinking thats wat is going to happen in november while something that only be good in Japan wil happen at the end of this countdown Unregistered - Wes 08.20.2005 13:27 im thinking the HD DVD is true. After all, the Xbox 360 is meant to be all about the games. so you could say that the games will be the origin of the 360, hence the site name, and hence the most probable link to the games using HD DVD tech Unregistered - no 08.20.2005 13:28 no it goes by your clock.. in explorer.. set it 37 days later.. and see;) But it is missing the pic that will show in 37days :S Unregistered - That Guy 08.20.2005 13:31 So the last clue said "We are living in a world of digital entertainment, in a world were all reality is going to be virtual and the only thing needed to create at that time would be our own imagination" -Tree RINGS reveals the years of the tree while he is also the CENTER of that virtual world. -[J].A.E* 11=fun for A,J and E* 9=fun for J not for A or E* *(important) NG September is the 9th month of the year. November is the 11th month of the year. 11=fun for all 9=fun for some This ones easy. J=Japan, A=America, E*=Western Europe. Lets recap, Bonzai tree, [J] having fun, thus Japan gets the 360 core system (sans live) first on Wednesday the 28th @ 2:00 PM (local time in Japan). America, Europe, and Japan get both versions in November. Unregistered - That Guy 08.20.2005 13:33 J=Japan, who gets the core system when the timer expires, in September (9th month) A=America, E*=Europe, we get both systems in November (11th month) Too easy... Unregistered - Sammy 08.20.2005 13:34 maybe Unregistered - JohnB 08.20.2005 13:34 No offence 'thatguy', but uv jst sugacoated wht wes said a wile bak :S Unregistered - Sammy 08.20.2005 13:36 really dude dont take credit from wes Unregistered - Eddie 08.20.2005 13:36 Now we all no that xbox did badly in the beginning and that in japan, ps1's were selling better than xbox's. So why would they make such a big deal about this conference when its being held in japan, where sony is dominant? they are probaly goin 2 release the HD-DVD, and anounce halo 3, plus some other stuff that will nock sony off there seats. Now that i think about it, there wouldnt be any better place 2 release that kinda info, it would near pointless to say that stuff in europe or america since we would support them any way. But japans population wouldnt even listen, so M$ has made the bette choice 2 release there biggest and best secrets in the heart of sony, . . . Japan Unregistered - That Guy 08.20.2005 13:39 Sorry, didn't see Wes's comment. I think we are right though. Oh yeah, the Tokyo Game Show is September 16, 17, and 18. Unregistered - Eddie 08.20.2005 13:39 what does the [NG] stand for tho Unregistered - Shabazz 08.20.2005 13:40 The Tokyo Game Show 2005 is September 16 - 18. But, the timer will end well after that date. So, I think it has to be something other than just an announcement. Maybe the core system in Japan? Unregistered - Shabazz 08.20.2005 13:41 I just stole your thunder with the date thing. sorry! Unregistered - Eddie 08.20.2005 13:43 that does and doesnt make sense. It would make some sense 2 release a the 360 in japan first 2 show that M$ does care for there japanese market. However, that would us off so much, we (america, and europe) have better sales for xbox than what sony does the ps2, would almost be a insalt. Unregistered - Xtrm 08.20.2005 13:43 [J].A.E* 11=fun for A,J and E* 9=fun for J not for A or E* ………… Translation………. [Japan]America.Europe* November = fun for America, Japan and Europe* September = fun for Japan not for America or Europe……….But Why launch in Japan first? Maybe because of who is manufacturing the Xbox 360’s it would be more convenient to get the Japan models out first. Unregistered - Wes 08.20.2005 13:46 i still think the japan thing is merely to do with HD DVD technology, as Japan is where it all began (HD DVD). I dont think its an Xbox360 release date, because microsoft wouldnt turn its back on the people who backed it's console. To release the 360 in Europe and America 2 months after japan would be a bad move for microsoft. Unregistered - Eddie 08.20.2005 13:47 it states "fun for some". Meaning J=japamn in 9=september. That some will be the people at the japan conference. They are goin 2 b able 2 play the actual xbox 360, fully, not some alpha kit, not a beta kit, the actual system, they who are the some, will have fun in 9 Unregistered - That Guy 08.20.2005 13:47 They will launch in Japan first because there are 5-10 Japanese only titles ready to ship. The American/European games aren't done yet. Unregistered - The Man 08.20.2005 13:52 Hold up I've been hering all this talk about this HD-DVD in japan and I was just wondering if there gonna increase the price, and will they sell the HD-DVD model in America and Europe Unregistered - ms 08.20.2005 13:53 http://www.avantbard.com/blog/archives/images/tree_stump.jpg 26/9 A+A+E Unregistered - Wes 08.20.2005 13:54 If it is HD DVD, I should imagine the price won't move too much, if any. MS have already confirmed game prices. Unregistered - Tyson 08.20.2005 13:55 Now it says 38 00 04 30 whats going on? Unregistered - Xtrm 08.20.2005 14:00 Dusty you might need to change your PC system date & time. Unregistered - Xtrm 08.20.2005 14:03 !!!!!! Unregistered - Chuffster 08.20.2005 14:03 WHERE THE HELL IS THE TIMER????! Unregistered - Shabazz 08.20.2005 14:04 paste this http://www.avantbard.com/blog/archives/images/tree_stump.jpg it is just a picture of a tree stump Unregistered - That Guy 08.20.2005 14:04 the link works, just erase the last bit 26/9 A+A+E It's a picture of a tree stump... Unregistered - Chuffster 08.20.2005 14:05 This could be an anti Xbox 360 thing www.origenxbox360.com is an anagram for www.ignorexbox360.com !!! Unregistered - Sammy 08.20.2005 14:06 nice try Unregistered - Josh 08.20.2005 14:06 microsoft register the domain want be ani-xbox 360 otherwise they are very stupid Unregistered - Josh 08.20.2005 14:07 well i typed too fast...microsoft registered the domain, it cant be anti-xbox 360 Unregistered - Wes 08.20.2005 14:08 I don't want to offend the guy in statement 89, but it is the only thing left by the microsoft guy, where his name isn't in capitals. All the other microsoft lines are from MS, not ms. Im not sure if that link is a relevent clue Unregistered - Josh 08.20.2005 14:10 i guess this is just the flash thing but i dount a link: http://www.origenxbox360.com/library/js/displayFlash.js Unregistered - That Guy 08.20.2005 14:10 Google image search for "tree stump" turns up this picture. Prank. Unregistered - Josh 08.20.2005 14:10 aaaaaa i cant type i found a site* Unregistered - Wes 08.20.2005 14:12 I warned you! but the capitals move is no longer valid. Anyone who pranks will no longer give it away like that. We've got to be more careful, and make sure what are clues, and what are pranks Unregistered - Enrique Herrera 08.20.2005 14:39 is days after Tokyo Games Show! http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=6131 Unregistered - JL 08.20.2005 14:41 The last clue also said something about the center of the virtual world. Could this mean Japan since the cut of a tree shows the number of years and Japan probably is the center of the "virtual world." So, the 360 might be available in Japan first. Unregistered - netgem21 08.20.2005 14:44 Apparently, the word Ougen that appears at the end of the countdown is a Chinese electronics company! And check this out. On wiki this has just appeared: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origenxbox360 . The sentences are pretty obvious - they describe the tree . But what I found in the lst interesting is very interesting. 'Fun can be had even when losing or punching. So don't be yellow...' Take the first letters of some of the words. "(F)un can be had even when (l)osing (o)r (p)unching. (S)o don't be (y)ellow..." Spells FLOPSY!! MY BROTHER's RABBIT IS CALLED FLOPSY!!! AND THERE"S A RABBIT IN THE PICTURE!!!!! How about that for a puzzle solve!! If the wiki is slow I have a photo of it http://img394.imageshack.us/my.php?image=originxbox0if.png Unregistered - sony 08.20.2005 14:44 The xbox is going to fail in Japan and America hail Sony, hail PS3!!!! Unregistered - Demon 08.20.2005 14:45 So much talk about september and all but November 9th we get a release in Europe, Japan, and America. TY TY. I must go solve the energy crisis now. Unregistered - Wes 08.20.2005 14:49 I'm pretty sure that it says origen, but you might be right. And the November the9th thing doesnt relate back to the MS clue. Unregistered - Big Mike 08.20.2005 15:03 i remember allard saying "ring of light" which is the xbox emblem on the controller, which the gamer holds and is the center of the gaming system. 360 degrees of affect. Unregistered - Wes 08.20.2005 15:12 ok, i have a theory that is gonna sound nuts, but it could be saying the release date of the 360 will be on th 25th of november. ok, if u give each alphabet letter a significent number, like : a =1, b=2, c=3, all th way to y =25, z=26. then, use the two caplocked words frm the MS clue, center and rings. You get 3,5,14,20,5,18 and 18,9,14,7,19. make all the numbers single by adding the relevant didgets, giving: 3,5,5,2,5,9 and 9,9,5,7,1. add these all to get 60. 60 days from the end of countdown is 25th November, a proposed release date from MS. Coincedence? Unregistered - vulcan 08.20.2005 15:16 you might be right wes but i dont want you to be correct because i cant wait that long!!! Unregistered - Xtrm 08.20.2005 15:23 Wes I really doubt they would luanch the X360 on a U.S. national holiday "Thanksgiving", I mean all the stores will be closed. Unregistered - Wes 08.20.2005 15:25 Oh, my bad, i just heard that november 25th was a possible date. Unregistered - SR45 08.20.2005 15:26 Circles, rabbits, cutting a try in half....Real simple people... Bill Gates has gone nuts, and is now drinking far too much alcohol, and this actually means nothing. He is making you all nuts Unregistered - djsandman 08.20.2005 15:30 not sure if this has been mentioned yet, but the image is either real, or has been CG'd to appear real....if you look at the rabbit by zooming in you will see a white stand just between it and the ground it's standing on...might mean something about something being real and not fake. Unregistered - netgem21 08.20.2005 15:39 Unregistered - netgem21 08.20.2005 15:40 it looks like the rabbit is a signpost. it has screws in it. there's a link between the rabbit and the tree has the rabbit is being a signpost for the tree. ah- i think i've got it... Unregistered - djsandman 08.20.2005 15:49 also, not sure if this has been mentioned or not, but you don't have to change the time on your computer to view the image after the count down ends, all you have to do is right click and press play Unregistered - Enrique Herrera 08.20.2005 15:55 Check the history of the Wiki entery. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Origenxbox360&action=history Unregistered - XTrek 08.20.2005 15:56 The clues also mention OurColony.net. On this site is a fisheye lens look at a Darth Vader look alike pointing to a Colony poster with an Ant. There might be a clue here... Unregistered - Xtrm 08.20.2005 15:59 I just posted info about this subject to G4TV & linked them back to this site. Maybe Attack of the show or X-Play will find this interesting enough to investigate & put it on their show. Unregistered - Wes 08.20.2005 16:12 i've been doing some research on whether it says ougen, or origen on the hidden screen. It would appear that most fonts which hav 'O's in the style shown, also have 'r's which look much like this. The font style is old, and i feel almost certain this is origen, and not ougen... (see SCRIPT MT BOLD) Unregistered - Enrique Herrera 08.20.2005 16:23 But the creator of the Wiki page is "Codename Ougen" Unregistered - dumb ps3 people 08.20.2005 16:27 i hate fucking ps3 iliterate niggers. 360 is gonna fail in the US? haha go try getting a pre-order for it... oh wait a sec you cant its been sold out since may.. hav efun droppin 500+ on some peice of shit chink shit.. about the crazy countdown nonsence.. i dunno where you guys got tht equation type of shit from, but i dont see shit in the site, other than the fact that the rabbit kinda looks like an exagerated outline of the US, but thats just me ive eatin alota acid in my day =X Unregistered - Osiris 08.20.2005 16:28 this is crazy. We ar falling down a long rabbit hole. I think this wikipedia thing could lead us to the gamemaster. Unregistered - Wes 08.20.2005 16:41 The wiki page may have been made by codename ougen, but only on 20th august. it would appear that the xbox origen site was made on the 12th (according to the above information. The sudden appearence of this particular wiki page(involvin the 360) means it was possibly a random person, not something official Unregistered - Shabazz 08.20.2005 16:51 If you go to ourcolony.net there is a circle. If you place your mouse on it, a number of RINGS occur. Also, what if 11 for A means that you have to put your mouse in the center of that circle for a specific TIME period. It seems that the MS person put a great deal of emphasis on the RINGS and TIME. Also, the center of the tree RING. I am not too sure about the rabbit, though. It is supposed to change after a certain amount of TIME. I am currently playing with this theory. Sound like it might work. Unregistered - netgem21 08.20.2005 17:13 MS said clues would come along later. This wiki thing is obviously the first main clue Unregistered - Fito 08.20.2005 17:14 The picture on ourcolony.net I got was what looked like a pinball table... Unregistered - Annonymous 08.20.2005 17:18 so MS has made official comments about this site? Unregistered - Pimp1000 08.20.2005 17:20 So what does it acutally mean? Unregistered - Annonymous 08.20.2005 17:21 What does what mean man? Unregistered - Fito 08.20.2005 17:22 What does what mean? Unregistered - cookie 08.20.2005 17:27 rite this i from our ourcolony. and sumone said the word goes 2 ourgen. maybe that is OUR GEN. not sure jus an idea Unregistered - Kimble 08.20.2005 17:28 The word origen unscrambles to region. The rabbit almost looks like a map of different regions (countries) squished together with two dots marking cities. Unregistered - netgem 21, frostcutter and frank53 08.20.2005 17:35 keep an eye on wiki. my mate jez is trying deperately to find clues on wiki and stuff and after someone just brought up gamem8ker he searched on wiki and found something. none of us can understand it as it seems to be in 3 weird languages. we think one of them is chinese possibly linking to ougen, the chinese electric co. but if anyone can translate this it would be a great help as we dont know what languages these are and therefore cant translate them thanks the 360 men Unregistered - 08.20.2005 17:36 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamem8ker and i got it on imageshack for the main reason. you know wikis reputation of deleting stuff! http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/7265/gamem8ker9gc.png Unregistered - netgem21 08.20.2005 17:41 this may not be relevent but when i learnt sailing, to do this knot you pretended the rope was a rabbit. the sequence went: the rabbit comes out of the burrow and goes around the tree and then back down the hole. !!! Unregistered - Pelle 08.20.2005 17:43 I found this translation of a song. In the original the song is: Hikaru mono no subete ga ougen to wa kagiranai In english: All that glitters is not gold The word ougen should be one of the words in english. I suggest gold and that maybe the console will go gold on that day. Go gold means of you doesn't know that the product is finalized and ready to go into production... My source: http://vegeta2057.deviantart.com/journal/1391054/ Unregistered - Shabazz 08.20.2005 17:45 Ohh good god! Check out the link. HD-DVD BABY! Wikimedia needs your help IN its US$200,000 fund drive. See our fundraising page for details. Gamem8ker From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. 3Ecaf eht ni uoy gnirats si rewsna eht 6 0http: //www.vojir.com/other/neguo-egymoslct.html lru eht ni seil rewsna eht Http: //www.hddvdprg.com/event/03publish/img2.jpg Nihtiw morf semoc rewop eht On November 25th as for the product the how high-level disk first being proper, whether... you look at the power of the wood where then we are wise old the gamem8ker which is modified? Retrieved from " http: //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamem8ker " Unregistered - Pelle 08.20.2005 17:45 I found another translation that suggest a different meaning. Original: Daz ir ougen sint sô klar, Translation: how her eyes are so clear Conclusion: Ougen = eyes Source: http://www.iwaynet.net/~watts/deutsch/mittel.htm Not likely to be what we are looking for but who knows... Unregistered - Chuffster 08.20.2005 17:46 It`s backwards!!It says THE POWER COMES FROM WITHIN http://www.hddvdprg.com/event/03publish/img2.jpg(LINK TO hd dvd image!)THE ANSWER LIES IN THE URL http://www.vojir.com/other/neguo-egymoslct.html THE ANSWER IS STARING YOU IN THE FACE Unregistered - Shabazz 08.20.2005 17:46 Here is a more organized post. On November 25th as for the product the how high-level disk first being proper, whether... you look at the power of the wood where then we are wise old the gamem8ker which is modified? Retrieved from " http: //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamem8ker " Unregistered - johnk750i 08.20.2005 17:53 i think we're gonna know the answar by tonite Unregistered - Xtrm 08.20.2005 17:55 I'm starting to believe that this is all about the announcement of HD-DVD in the X360 & the Launch dates. Unregistered - Pelle 08.20.2005 17:56 Ougen meens either GOLD or EYES. Most possibly GOLD which would meen that Xbox 360 is GOING GOLD on that date! Unregistered - Duro 08.20.2005 17:56 Honestly people what do u think the countdown will lead to? I dont think it will be a release date but maybe a feature that ms didn't tell us or something good for xbox buyers. Unregistered - Mike 08.20.2005 17:59 Just check this page bloody quickly. Read the 6th paragraph in 'History' WooHOO!!!!!!!! Unregistered - the man 08.20.2005 18:01 What are you talking about post 151 Unregistered - tt55 08.20.2005 18:02 check what page Unregistered - 360_or_063 08.20.2005 18:03 Try highlighting the whole page, you'll get a better glimps of the count-down. t/c - xL Unregistered - the man 08.20.2005 18:05 hey mike what are you talking about!!!!! Unregistered - Chuffster 08.20.2005 18:06 Well,the url http://www.vojir.com/other/neguo-egymoslct.html does contain the word OUGEN backwards!LOL!What a great bunch we are,getting very close I suspect! Unregistered - Mike 08.20.2005 18:06 CHECK ARTICLES XBOX 360 AND HD-DVD IN WIKI NOW!!!!!!! Unregistered - Annonymous 08.20.2005 18:08 guys, th HD-DVD idea was dscussd and aprovd on here a fair while bak! Unregistered - Xtrm 08.20.2005 18:09 I don't now why everybody is coming up with OUGEN. It may look like "Ou" but it's not! Zoom into the picture and you will see Origen in cursive writing. Never the Less this little countdown will lead to something big, I mean look how much attention it has attracted so far. Unregistered - Wes 08.20.2005 18:11 I agree xtrm. I researched some fonts, and i still reckon its origen. That ri (or 'u') is far too suspect for my liking. Unregistered - 08.20.2005 18:12 Check this out. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamem8ker_360 Unregistered - Chuffster 08.20.2005 18:13 OUGEN is hidden in the url a few posts above mate-connected with Gamem8ker! Try typing in www.vojir.com very weird! Unregistered - the man 08.20.2005 18:14 Microsoft's Xbox 360 may support the HD-DVD. This is because of a partnership between Microsoft and Toshiba. Thanks mike Unregistered - Chuffster 08.20.2005 18:18 I think you know,who am I??? VERY curious! Unregistered - Xtrm 08.20.2005 18:18 It has Nothing to do with OUGEN or game8ker. Start from the begining: http://www.origenxbox360.com/ or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origenxbox360 Thats all we know about it! Unregistered - osiris 08.20.2005 18:21 ^It's people like you who will never go anywhere in life, or do anything creatvie. Unregistered - Chuffster 08.20.2005 18:23 Indeed!Trying to spoil all our detective work! Unregistered - Osiris 08.20.2005 18:24 I'm so proud of you guys! HUGS ALL AROUND!! *Hugs the tree and the bunny* Unregistered - Xtrm 08.20.2005 18:25 hahaha thats was a little un-called for but part of my jod is to investigate The known facts & details, so lets not lead off into somewhere that gets us knowhere. Unregistered - netgem21 08.20.2005 18:26 Oujen IS THE ORIGIN!!!! wiki again! search oujen in wiki Unregistered - Wes 08.20.2005 18:26 We've been on here for a while trying to work this out. We had our go and came to the conclusion that the countdown is for something big goin on in Japan (due to the 2 MS clues). Now you guys are working on the Ougen thing. If we link our ideas together maybe we can work it out..... Lets see.... I think the countdown is leading to a time when microsoft will annonce the HD DVD technology. and there is a good possibility if this is true, that Ougen will have something to do with its production. Unregistered - vulcan 08.20.2005 18:26 can some one sum up whats going on i was lost once everyone started talking about wikipedia and stuff Unregistered - Pelle 08.20.2005 18:26 It must be origin that is written there and nothing else. It doesn't make sense to have ougen written there and I remember from School that an R is written we way it is in that image and it isn't easy to spot exactly as I thought when I learned it! Unregistered - Enrique Herrera 08.20.2005 18:27 http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=HD_DVD&diff=21457393&oldid=21429420 THis can not be true.. I think the wiki clues are missleading. Unregistered - Annonymous 08.20.2005 18:27 cud be rite!!!? Unregistered - the man 08.20.2005 18:27 Hey you know that whole thing about evrey ring repersents a year mabe on that gamem8ke thing there are 2005 rings repersenting what year it comes out, but that wouldn't make much sense. We already know what year its coming out or do we???? Unregistered - netgem21 08.20.2005 18:28 I just thought of something else guys! Rabbits rip the bark of trees. The site has a welcoming sign of a rabbit next to a tree. I think the tree represents XBOX 360 and the rabbit represents people who dont currently play games but the console encourages them. How about that! Unregistered - Wes 08.20.2005 18:29 Personally, i think it's origen on that site. The wiki stuff is pushing deep. My research sggested an olden font, that would suggest the spelling of origen. Unregistered - Chuffster 08.20.2005 18:30 I think the jist(looking at various posts)is that in September,Microsoft will announce that the 360 will contain the(small but powerful(bonsai!))HDD Drive and that November 25th will be the 360 release date! Unregistered - Xtrm 08.20.2005 18:30 Yeah, I thought it was a standard to learn cursive writing in 4th grade. It is definately Origen. But you never know in another language it could be spelled diff but have the same meaning. Unregistered - Wes 08.20.2005 18:30 wiki could be a prank? We foiled one on here earlier, and that site was found a bit after we did so. Unregistered - Annonymous 08.20.2005 18:33 Newer guys, read the upd8s at th top of the pg to see wher we got erlier. Unregistered - bizarre... 08.20.2005 18:33 naa, MS said clues like this would come. These are subtle clues hidden within the internet. They're probably all over the place. Personally I believe this Unregistered - Wes 08.20.2005 18:35 But there is a good chance that in a search for vital clues, we can missunderstand things, and blow things out of proportion. Unregistered - Chuffster 08.20.2005 18:35 On November 25th the Xbox 360 will be upgraded to HD-DVD in the Premium Version only. This can easily be seen by the different drives in the core system and the premium system. The Core System will be released a few weeks earlier than the HD-DVD premium version. HD-DVD version comes out November 25th. Unregistered - Wes 08.20.2005 18:37 But that would mean that many developers wouldnt be able to use the max power of the disks, as people wouldnt be able to use them. It would scare developers going for larger, more imaginitive games Unregistered - Fito 08.20.2005 18:38 Why would Microsoft do that...it doesn't make sense. They are going to release them on the same day. Or, the HD-DVD version first. Unregistered - The man 08.20.2005 18:38 How much more do you think M$ will charge for the premium version. Unregistered - Fito 08.20.2005 18:39 I'm responding to the HD-DVD version being released l8ter. Unregistered - Chuffster 08.20.2005 18:40 Yes,but don`t forget the 360 is designed to be FUTURE proof-HD will eventually replace dvd.Doesn`t mean the games will rely on HD technology just yet! Unregistered - Osiris 08.20.2005 18:40 Wait, is the Gamem8ker thing real or fake? Unregistered - Xtrm 08.20.2005 18:40 Wiki said, "On November 25th the Xbox 360 will be upgraded to HD-DVD in the Premium Version only. This can easily be seen by the different drives in the core system and the premium system. The Core System will be released a few weeks earlier than the HD-DVD premium version. HD-DVD version comes out November 25th.".........How the hell do they have that info? Unregistered - That Guy 08.20.2005 18:42 now i'm just confused... Unregistered - The Gamem8ker 08.20.2005 18:43 *The colony never ends* Unregistered - martinKKK 08.20.2005 18:44 LOL!!! tthat previous post has gotta be fake Unregistered - Wes 08.20.2005 18:44 So at the end of the countdown, MS will announce that HD DVD will be in the premium 360's, and that the core systems will remain the same. This is according to Wiki Unregistered - the man 08.20.2005 18:45 will the premium version cost any more if you had to a guess Unregistered - Mike 08.20.2005 18:45 I bet the colony is Xbox Live. Unregistered - Osiris 08.20.2005 18:45 How in the hell are we supposed to solve this if we don't know whats a real clue and whats a prank?!?! Unregistered - That Guy 08.20.2005 18:46 i'd say no, it will cost the same. toshiba will pay microsoft some money to include their HD-DVD drives. Unregistered - Chuffster 08.20.2005 18:46 The premium version price has already been announced-UK price £279,Core version UK version £209. Unregistered - Mike 08.20.2005 18:46 Nope, this has gotta be real Unregistered - Osiris 08.20.2005 18:48 What has to be real? The website? Yeah probably. But what about the Gamem8ker clues? Unregistered - Wes 08.20.2005 18:48 I disagree with the Wiki statement. Microsoft would stand to lose massive amounts if they gave the premium pack an extra thing (of this magnitude), and kept it the same price! I think they have considered the price of the HD DVD, used it to create the confirmed 360 launch price, and are announcing the xtra piece at the end of the countdown. Think about it, This means that people who already thought they were getting loads for there money, now are getting even more! its a great marketing move as loads of publicity will be recieved too! Unregistered - Xtrm 08.20.2005 18:49 If you look close here......http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=HD_DVD&diff=21457393&oldid=21429420......You will notice that WIKI has revised this just today, "Revision as of 21:57, 20 August 2005". I don't know how WIKI gets that info but somehow they did. Take it for face value. Puzzle solved. Unregistered - Mike 08.20.2005 18:50 this wiki thing is real. seems a bit strange for it to just change today@!!!! not coincidence. the gamem8ker is here! (lol) Unregistered - Wes 08.20.2005 18:51 The wiki statement came about after we theorised the idea of the HD DVD being announced. Its probably just a prank, that used ideas that we'd come up with! Unregistered - Osiris 08.20.2005 18:53 There is no way it is real. Has gamem8ker ever been this obvious? no. Has he ever even come close to telling us flat out what the answer to it all was? No way! The only way this could even be remotley connected to him is if it is a test. Which I don't believe it is. Unregistered - Wes 08.20.2005 18:55 I think this is already solved. The HD DVD will be announced at the end of the countdown, along with a confirmed release date (unless this is stated before the end). The extra stuff is someone just trying to mess with us. Unregistered - Xtrm 08.20.2005 18:56 Why would Wikipedia pull a prank? I mean they have a legitimate resource giude on the line hear. If word got out that Wiki was pulling pranks & untrue facts, I think it would hurt Wiki pretty bad, don't you think? Unregistered - Wes 08.20.2005 18:56 But anyone can put a thing on Wikipedia.. can they not? Unregistered - 08.20.2005 18:58 Yes, but they monitor it very closely. It would have been deleted by now if it wasn't elgit Unregistered - Wes 08.20.2005 19:01 I'm not so sure though...it's only been up for a short while. Unregistered - JNW911 08.20.2005 19:01 Yeah I agree with Wes...The word is definately Origen with the connected cursive "r" next to the "o" The region thing seems to start ringing some bells with me. Unregistered - Pumpkinhead 08.20.2005 19:02 Ougen s not a word, Origen is just spelled cursively, but confusingly enough to make it look like an U Unregistered - Chuffster 08.20.2005 19:02 Well,I`m pretty sure we`ve solved it,so I`m off to bed(midnight in the UK!)night everyone-keep those brains ticking! Unregistered - Wes 08.20.2005 19:03 Im still hangin on the idea of origen linking to the word origin - meaning beginning. this links somewhat to japan, as japan was the beginning of videogaming. Unregistered - JNW911 08.20.2005 19:04 One more fact that backs the word being origen, and not ougen is that the "origenxbox360.com" address that is on the top of the word, has the "O" as the dot for the "I" in the word "Origen"... its not ougen. Unregistered - Wes 08.20.2005 19:07 If you read back over some of my old ideas, ul see that origin works. and that the countdown should lead to what we've discussed. The only thing i cant get by is the rabbit Unregistered - Osiris 08.20.2005 19:08 Don't foregt to look up Oujen on wikipedia...it was the origin of video games. Unregistered - Dusty 08.20.2005 19:10 I have edited Update 9 and 10 , as they most likely were miss-leading, Unregistered - Osiris 08.20.2005 19:10 Behind the Rabbit it looks like what at first looks like a white board is actualy the xbox 360. So the xbox 360 is hiding behind the rabbit...but what does the rabbit represent? Unregistered - Wes 08.20.2005 19:12 Thanks dusty, it was a bit sketchy :P... oooh, n thanks for the quote from me!:D Unregistered - andrew 08.20.2005 19:12 the xbox isnt behind the rabit, what makes you say that Unregistered - 08.20.2005 19:13 tree = xbox rabbit = person who is not a gamer. rabbits are not welcome near trees as they de-bark them. the sign is welcoming rabbits. the xbox is welcoming people who are not gamers Unregistered - Osiris 08.20.2005 19:14 Oh, and another thing. One of the first things I noticed was that the numbers on the countdown timer appear to have been created using ASCII. I cant make out what the ASCII letters are, though... Unregistered - Josh 08.20.2005 19:18 This would be a tacticle error by MS, think about it, you release one system with HD-DVD and one without, so what do you do with games? Make games that only work on one system? Don't think so, thats a huge money loser. Make two versions? Money loser AND confuses people. The only logical thing would that if they did include it in permium only then all it would be used for would be HD-DVD movies, which dont even exist yet (by my knowledge). But don't get yourselves too pumped up for HD-DVD or anything big (while I do believe this to be official) just that you don't get disapointed if its nothing huge. (But I really do hope it is HD-DVD because I would feel much nicer spending my 400 on a system that could play High Def DVD's), and IMO it says Origen, it's just in cursive. Unregistered - Wes 08.20.2005 19:18 I think iv found something that confirms japan. copy the origin360 website onto paint. cut the rabbit, and flip it so its 'ears' are facing the left side of the screen, and it's 'bum' is in the air. Now look at a map of Japan on World atlas. you'l see a perfect (but slightly squashed) match. Tell me what u think. Unregistered - Wes 08.20.2005 19:21 I covered that in 186 and 204 my man.. good call though. Unregistered - XBOX fan 08.20.2005 19:22 If you zoom in 10 times all you see is a blur. Unregistered - andrew 08.20.2005 19:22 yeah but ya know the dots on the bunny have to be something Unregistered - Wes 08.20.2005 19:23 Use my map idea of mainland japan andrew, ul see one of the dots sits upon tokyo Unregistered - Osiris 08.20.2005 19:24 Very interesting, wes, aout the japan thing. Now try this: Cut off the rabbits ears. Then look at the world atlas at the U.S. It looks almost Identical, other than being a bit squashed. Very interesting... Unregistered - Osiris 08.20.2005 19:25 Cut off the head, too. Unregistered - Wes 08.20.2005 19:26 Good call osiris, but im guessing it's japan because of an erlier clue, and because no direct alteration has to be made. I think the pole is signifying this to be a map post Unregistered - Osiris 08.20.2005 19:28 GOod point, about Japan. But if we can find something in the rabbit that has to do with Europe, it would all but completley confirm your ealier theorys... Unregistered - Shabazz 08.20.2005 19:28 Maybe the xbox is the rabbit and the tree is Japan. Therefore, it is probably giving us some reason why Japan will readily accept the xbox. Thoughts? Unregistered - Osiris 08.20.2005 19:32 Ok. Like the previous post said, maybe the Rabbit is Japan, and the tree is the xbox 360. Also, lets say that the rings of the tree represent time. The older the tree gets (the closer we come to the end of the countdown), the more rings there are, and the tree (360) gets closer to the rabbit (japan). What do you think about that? Unregistered - Wes 08.20.2005 19:33 but this wouldnt link to the countdown in any way Unregistered - Osiris 08.20.2005 19:34 Yes it would, because according to you, Japan is going to have fun at the end of the countdown. Unregistered - Wes 08.20.2005 19:35 I like it osiris, but the countdown goes down, so time goes down... surely the tree would decrease in size? or am i lookin too deep? Unregistered - Osiris 08.20.2005 19:35 Scratch that. Unregistered - Wes 08.20.2005 19:35 (soory osiris.. i wasnt responding to ur bit before) Unregistered - Josh 08.20.2005 19:35 Ever think that the rabbit was not meant to be altered, and that it really is just a rabbit, I'm gonna look up symbolism of the rabbit in ancient stories and such and see if I can come up with anything. Unregistered - Osiris 08.20.2005 19:36 No, because technicaly, the older the tree gets, the more rings it would have, thus inreasing in size. Unregistered - andrew 08.20.2005 19:37 hey i know this is gonna sound stupid and you might forget this by the time this is over but i was just at the timer and if you push the refresh button you make the clock speed up about a half second!! Unregistered - Pimpjuice 08.20.2005 19:38 Did anyone figure out what it counts down to? Unregistered - Osiris 08.20.2005 19:38 Thats because it takes half a second to refresh... Or am I missing sarcasm here? Unregistered - andrew 08.20.2005 19:40 yeah ive been reading all the posts and thinking about this mess for a while now and im out of ideas and i was just playin around. Unregistered - Josh 08.20.2005 19:40 I think it's Sept 25th Noon EST or something around there. oh and about the rabbit symbolism, I found this on my search, I don't think this site is relavant, but it's funny cause i think the person who made it is insane. http://www.greatdreams.com/rabbit.htm Unregistered - Osiris 08.20.2005 19:41 lol. I was worried we were losing our edge for a second there. Unregistered - Wes 08.20.2005 19:42 Remember my rabbit idea? I just searched google for Nagoya ( a city under the second dot. Apparently an expo was held there a few months back. Toshiba (the company who would make the HD DVD) was said to have shown off new technology here. Maybe this new show of tech included the HD DVD, which could be why the other dot is in place? Unregistered - Osiris 08.20.2005 19:43 Wes what do you think of the Bunny/tree/rings theory? your imput seems to be th emost helpful and correct. Unregistered - Wes 08.20.2005 19:44 I'm thinkin it could be right. The tree would grow and reach the rabbit (ie Japan). It makes sense.. but i'm not sure on what the tree represents exactly. Unregistered - Josh 08.20.2005 19:45 Green rabbits seem to have been a toxic clean-up mascot for the EWA. Maybe MS is trying to tell us that the Xbox 360 will have a nuclear core for the PSU! Unregistered - Osiris 08.20.2005 19:49 I think the tree would either represent microsoft or the 360. Unregistered - Osiris 08.20.2005 19:50 There is a forum link up to a different plae if we want to move to it...just tell if you do. Unregistered - Jordan 08.20.2005 19:50 If you right click on the rabit and zoom in, you can see something underneath him, or possibly the object is behind him. My guess is that he's hiding something... Unregistered - vulcan 08.20.2005 19:50 why out of all colors would they choose green for the rabbit do you think the color means anything? Unregistered - Osiris 08.20.2005 19:51 Maybe the sly rabbit is hiding an xbox 360? Unregistered - Wes 08.20.2005 19:51 I think this place is probably better man.. but i might be off soon. 1 am here in uk Unregistered - The man 08.20.2005 19:52 rabbit=xbox360 tree=Japan My guess is as the days get lower the rabbit(xbox) will move closer and closer to the tree(Japan). Unregistered - Osiris 08.20.2005 19:53 You kept this running wes! Sleep is for...not...you! Unregistered - Wes 08.20.2005 19:53 The green colour is probably just to signify a relation ship to the Xbox or the 360. And i dont think the rabbit is hiding anything. Check back a little bit to my rabbit - japan theory. Tell us what u think Unregistered - Region 360 08.20.2005 19:53 Wes, I noticed what you did (see my post 138). 'Origen' unscrambles into region. Possibly announcements dealing with different regions. Unregistered - The Gamem8ker 08.20.2005 19:54 *The main mystery has yet to be discovered...* Unregistered - andrew 08.20.2005 19:54 the rabit whould not be hiding the 360 cause its no suprise anymore we know its an xbox site so what whould be the point? the only thing its hiding is what it stands for Unregistered - Pimpjuice 08.20.2005 19:55 I WANT XOBX 360 BEFORE CHINA! MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA Unregistered - Josh 08.20.2005 19:55 I like the man's idea of the tree representing Japan more because how would a tree represent MS or an Xbox 360, plus it looks like a bonzai tree, a japanese tradition type thing. And the rabbit is green after all, and we all know Xbox-MS has an obession with the color green. Hmm i wonder ... green .. Unregistered - Wes 08.20.2005 19:56 Soz region, i seriously didnt see your post, i just saw the ears and figured it resembled japan. Unregistered - Pimpjuice 08.20.2005 19:56 Can someone please sum up the meaning of the countdown, and what its counting down to? PLEASE! Unregistered - Osiris 08.20.2005 19:57 Maybe the rabbit is hiding the 360 because there is something about it that we are not supposed to see until later... Unregistered - andrew 08.20.2005 19:58 yeah i agree with you. i think the tree is a japan thing and the rabit has yet to be figured out. but i think if we are wrong with both objects, it still might deal with symbolisem Unregistered - Josh 08.20.2005 19:58 PLease explain to me how the green rabbit looks like http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/middle_east_and_asia/japan.jpg Unregistered - vulcan 08.20.2005 19:58 well the only thing realating to the 360 in that color thing i can think of is the xbox 360 core box. And youre thing about the rabbit being Japan with on of thoise dots being tokyo maybe because the tokyo game show but in 27 days the tokyo game show will be over. Unregistered - Wes 08.20.2005 19:58 I think the tree represents japan and time (like orisus said), as time passes, more lines appear and the tree (360) gets ever closer to whats happening in Japan Unregistered - Josh 08.20.2005 19:59 Yeah i've been looking up rabbit symbolism and still got nothing Unregistered - Region360 08.20.2005 19:59 And the bottom of the rabbit looks to have a resemblence of California and Florida, meaning that part of the rabbit could be the US and Canada. Unregistered - Osiris 08.20.2005 20:00 Rabbits are elusive, just like Japan is elusive to microsoft right now... Unregistered - vulcan 08.20.2005 20:01 i think we have to wait a few days because i think they said that the picture will change a bit each day that might help us come to a conclusion. Unregistered - Jordan 08.20.2005 20:03 There has to something behind the the rabbit, it is clearly evident that something is there... it may not be the Xbox 360 though, but something is there!!! Unregistered - andrew 08.20.2005 20:03 id stop with the rabit being any country or anything like that. i think it is solely an object and we have to find its meaning. also i dont know if it means anything but look at the position of the bunny its looking toward the timer. also the color green is just a ms thing. ya know the center power button, the x logo its all green too Unregistered - Wes 08.20.2005 20:04 I disagree.. the shadow beneath the rabbit is not large enough for it to be hiding anything behind it Unregistered - Jordan 08.20.2005 20:08 Wes, go to the actual site of the origen, right click the rabit and zoom in, underneath him, you can see something is hidden behind him. Not a shadow!!! Unregistered - Wes 08.20.2005 20:10 follow the trail of the pole beneath him.. the angle it is on makes the poles path run directly through the marked point. Unregistered - haloman 08.20.2005 20:11 the rabbit is bolted to a stick that is holding it up... Unregistered - vulcan 08.20.2005 20:12 i printed it out and measure the distance from rabbit to tree and height of the tree ill do it again tommorow and repeat the process each day and see if there are any changes Unregistered - Wes 08.20.2005 20:13 good move vulcan. keep us posted. Unregistered - JNW911 08.20.2005 20:16 Hey Guys, I'm not sure if this is at all relevant, but the rabbit is the zodiac symbol for both chinese/japanese for the year 1999. The first xbox was in beta status during this year in october. And isn't the xbox360 in beta status now?? I dont know.. plus the source code has a link with 1999 in it(leads nowhere though). Maybe the rabbit zodiac/1999/beta thing is coincidence :) Anyone? Wes?? Unregistered - Necrosis 08.20.2005 20:17 For those of you claiming something is behind the rabbit, it's the stick holding it up. Notice those two bolts going through it, those arent dots or holes, they are the bolt heads? It's a 2D cutout bolted to a stick. Unregistered - Necrosis 08.20.2005 20:18 The fact the rabbit isnt real, perhaps that is the biggest clue. The tree looks "real" but the rabbit is a cutout, must mean something. Perhaps a representation. Unregistered - Wes 08.20.2005 20:19 Im not sure JNW, il think about it,and try to link them to something. Keeep up the good work guys! Unregistered - Matt 08.20.2005 20:22 See this and the really really strange text: http://forums.planetxbox360.com/showthread.php?p=5268 Unregistered - Wes 08.20.2005 20:24 JNW, you could be onto something. the meaning of zodiac is a 12 band eliptical thing in astrology. Each band is 30 degrees in this zodiac. This possibly ties straight to the XBOX 360 bein the rabbit. (30 times 12 is 360) Unregistered - Wes 08.20.2005 20:27 Zodiac seems to link to everything circular, ie, everything of 360 dgrees. Unregistered - Wes 08.20.2005 20:34 anyone?comments? Unregistered - haloman 08.20.2005 20:34 https://www.origenxbox360.com/default.asp Have you guys seen this? Unregistered - Matt 08.20.2005 20:36 Yeah see #293 Unregistered - kamakazy 08.20.2005 20:37 i think since it looks like the rabit is glued to the wood, it is probably gonnna go around the tree to make a 360? any thoughts Unregistered - Wes 08.20.2005 20:39 guys i gota be off. keep discussin this. im sure it'l be uncovered by2moro.. but past 2am is way too late for me! Good luck guys Unregistered - Sammy 08.20.2005 20:39 awsome now all we need is a username and a password and weve struck some deep gold Unregistered - Xtrm 08.20.2005 20:47 Anybody have an Xlive account?? Unregistered - Ben 08.20.2005 20:51 Okay does anyone know what that page is even for? If we had an account on it we could figure out more about wat that page means. Unregistered - JNW911 08.20.2005 20:53 If you substitue "login" for the word "default" then you are taken to the main page for this "inside xbox" stuff.. Didn't know if you guys knew that. It seems to be for press only though. Unregistered - vulcan 08.20.2005 20:53 you need an xbox live account? Unregistered - the man 08.20.2005 20:55 Xbox Live ONLYBIGWHEELS Unregistered - Necrosis 08.20.2005 20:59 This is how much of the text I could read on that site with the login, left blanks on words that I just cant read. Some of what I have is probably incorrect to, maybe this can get the ball rolling. During the build up to the race there will be blood london wide running ___ ___ swot team that turn up, ___ (__). ___ (___ stations) evening (___ stations), they'll look after your bags, split the group up into waying standards, give advice and then go on runs. Unregistered - Derek Thompson 08.20.2005 21:08 i strongly disagree with the hd-dvd idea because 1:) on AOTS(attack of the show) on the feed one day like 2 weeks ago they said that microsoft said that the xbox360 would be HD-DVD eventually. 2:) microsoft has already started mass producing the xbox360. what i think it is, is that like Eddie said some ppl in japan will get to play the full xbox360 and that microsoft will tell about the release date of the xbox360 because they havn't done that yet. but only one thing is that we already know that it is most likely gonna be released in november so i'm not sure. Unregistered - Derek Thompson 08.20.2005 21:21 ok if you read the certificate that it asks you to accept when you log on it says that it is given to www.xboxemea.com so i typed that in and got the same page and i replaced default with login and it brought up to the page that it does if you do that with www.origenxbox.com; but, if you click on the links it will actually bring up a different page then it does if you do it from origenxbox.com, so i just thought i would share that. Unregistered - jabruith 08.20.2005 21:23 If you count up all the leaves on the tree u get 247...about the day that sony releases PS3...HALO 3 MAYBE??? Unregistered - Derek Thompson 08.20.2005 21:23 i clicked a different link lol oops Unregistered - Dusty 08.20.2005 21:25 I have added new updates to the main article , 12,13,14 Unregistered - Josh 08.20.2005 21:35 xboxemea could be linked to xbox live or something Unregistered - E.D. 08.20.2005 21:39 Update on the hidden text (from what I can read): During the build up to the race there will be 1000+ London wide running clinics. ? swot team that turn up, Morning (Gyms), Lunchtime (tube stations), evening (Tube stations), they'll look after your bags, split the group up into varying standards, give advice and then go on runs. ?= The only word I am unsure of (looks like Nike?) Unregistered - PsychoMantis 08.20.2005 21:41 Paste this into the address box and go to it,www.origenxbox360.com/login.asp . The site isint even finished yet. My guess is that this is what will be after the countdown is done. Unregistered - Derek Thompson 08.20.2005 21:42 very nice work E.D. but this is wierd, i can't get on this anymore www.originxbox360.com/default.asp or www.origenxbox360.com/login.asp. i don't know if this is my computer or what but i can still get on the alternative i found that takes you to same place www.xboxemea.com Unregistered - Matt 08.20.2005 21:47 The login box is for the Microsoft Press Release site Unregistered - Seep 08.20.2005 21:51 anyone noticed that the rabbit has no tail? Unregistered - Derek Thompson 08.20.2005 21:52 Bloody hell your right, i wonder why it doesn't Unregistered - Anoynomous 08.20.2005 21:56 I dunno if this is news or anything. But in firefox on the login page, if you go to View page info>forms> the txtpassword field is 8 charecters. ******** Could the password be 8 charecters? Unregistered - Shabazz 08.20.2005 21:58 GameM8ker... Unregistered - Josh 08.20.2005 22:00 That's 9. Unregistered - Sammy 08.20.2005 22:00 it might just be me but i think that the rabbit has gotten closer to the tree Unregistered - Shabazz 08.20.2005 22:02 there is a number 8 is the name. sorry, I should have been clear Unregistered - Ben 08.20.2005 22:03 Yah its definitely gotten closer. Keep an eye on what number section the rabbit is in front of on the countdown. Before it was in front of the 2nd number in the seconds countdown. Unregistered - Josh 08.20.2005 22:03 I can't even get to the rabbit/tree site anymore, damn browser keeps redirecting me, guess I'm gonna have to clear temp or something. Unregistered - Keegan 08.20.2005 22:03 So then it may actually be 8 charecters? Someone get out Brutus xD Unregistered - Seep 08.20.2005 22:08 the rabbit has not moved look on the floor inbetween the rabbit and the tree there is a leaf or maybe a bit of rabbit poo, just keep an eye on it Unregistered - Josh 08.20.2005 22:08 I don't think the rabbit has gotten any closer because I turned the date back one day on my computer and it stayed in the exact same place. BTW does anyone have a program that could decompile the flash for anymore info? Oh and does anyone happen to know the time difference between east coast USA and Japan, cause if it were 12 hours, that would make it midnight Japan time .... Unregistered - That Guy 08.20.2005 22:10 I think Japan is 13 hours ahead of New York. Thus, it is 11 on Sunday morning in Japan right now. Unregistered - keegan 08.20.2005 22:11 Damn Im on site, at home I could open the flash file in flash mx! Anyone done this yet? Unregistered - Ronmar 08.20.2005 22:12 Hey I don't really think this means anything but when I right-clicked and changed the quailty to low the tree and the rabbit moved. Unregistered - Anonymous 08.20.2005 22:12 the word "original" has 8 letters... Unregistered - Josh 08.20.2005 22:12 EST is -5 and Japan is +7 making the difference 12 hours, so it's counting down til midnight in Japan. Unregistered - lil' gringo 08.20.2005 22:14 some guy at planetxbox360's forum wrote this: I have found the following code in the SWF file on the site. Could the data inputted by "target_mill" be the date that the site is counting down to? 27th August? But this does not coincide with the time that the site is counting down to. Perhaps you guys can figure it out? target_mill = date.utc(2005, 8, 27, 12); getNewTime = function () { now = new Date(); now_mill = date.utc(now.getfullyear(), now.getmonth(), now.getdate(), now.gethours(), now.getminutes(), now.getseconds()); deficit = target_mill - now_mill; if (deficit < 0) { clearInterval(intvl); gotoAndStop("end"); } // end if trace (target_mill + " " + now_mill + " " + deficit); var _l3 = int(deficit / 1000 / 60 / 60 / 24); deficit = deficit - _l3 * 1000 * 60 * 60 * 24; var _l2 = int(deficit / 1000 / 60 / 60); deficit = deficit - _l2 * 1000 * 60 * 60; var _l1 = int(deficit / 1000 / 60); deficit = deficit - _l1 * 1000 * 60; var seconds_left = int(deficit / 1000); if (_l3 < 10) { _l3 = "0" + _l3; } // end if if (_l2 < 10) { _l2 = "0" + _l2; } // end if if (_l1 < 10) { _l1 = "0" + _l1; } // end if if (seconds_left < 10) { seconds_left = "0" + seconds_left; } // end if countdown.days0.text = _l3.toString().charAt(0); countdown.days1.text = _l3.toString().charAt(1); countdown.hours0.text = _l2.toString().charAt(0); countdown.hours1.text = _l2.toString().charAt(1); countdown.mins0.text = _l1.toString().charAt(0); countdown.mins1.text = _l1.toString().charAt(1); countdown.secs0.text = seconds_left.toString().charAt(0); countdown.secs1.text = seconds_left.toString().charAt(1); }; getNewTime(); intvl = setInterval(getNewTime, 1000); Unregistered - lil' gringo 08.20.2005 22:15 damn that was to hard to read, here's the link http://forums.planetxbox360.com/showthread.php?p=5064 It's somewhere in the middle Unregistered - thedagger 08.20.2005 22:16 I have been watching your posts and i have a suggestion. If the clock on the websight goes off of the time on your computer, why not turn the time on your computer forward and see what happens. ( i might just be loney ) the dagger Unregistered - That Guy 08.20.2005 22:17 I can't get back to /default.asp anymore either! Gives me the page cannot be found. Also, I noticed some text on the left side that was typed sideways. When I saved the page the text is gone. I know I saw it there. Crazy... Unregistered - keegan 08.20.2005 22:18 we did set our clock forward and it just gives that image posted up top Unregistered - Josh 08.20.2005 22:18 I think that the fact that the counter on the site is counting down to midnight in Japan probably means that it's just an early release in Japan or a 100 unit give away in Japan. Something to get Japan hyped about the launch. Unregistered - keegan 08.20.2005 22:19 you guys who can't get back to the login pages, look at the beginning of your urls. they should be https:// not http:// Unregistered - Derek Thompson 08.20.2005 22:20 we have the text already figured out(we think) but yea that is wierd still Unregistered - Josh 08.20.2005 22:22 the webiste i used didnt base the info off of GMT which i found strange so it acutally is 13 hrs. Unregistered - thedagger 08.20.2005 22:23 i am not a BIG gamer like i am sure you guys are but i will just wait like any other person for the 360 to come out, i will sell my ps2 and buy the 360 or the 360 core, by the way what do you guys recomend between the two sonsidering the prices, and are the prices... for the xbox 360-399.99 ,360 core-299.99 ??? and also what games do the think will be avaliable at launch Unregistered - Xenokiller 08.20.2005 22:24 i finally got this whole thing read and i been on for a few hours. this is some crazy stuff Unregistered - Xenokiller 08.20.2005 22:26 if there is gona be hd dvd in the premium pakages i would feal alot better about moneys worth, i live in canada and the price for the xbox 360 is $100 more than usa for both pakages Unregistered - Osiris 08.20.2005 22:27 Is Brutus illegal?? I want to use it on this. Unregistered - keegan 08.20.2005 22:28 if your asking as to whether or not Brutus is illegal you probably won't be able to use it effectivly Unregistered - Derek Thompson 08.20.2005 22:29 lol Unregistered - thedagger 08.20.2005 22:31 It is very crazy, i think the clock is counting down to midnight i japan to launch the 360 or (like you said) a 100 unit give away. Origin meaning route, japan is where it all started, the eqation waaayyyy above this post is saying it will launch in september in japan (as the clock reads), and in november in the u.s. On other websights i have found out that some wal-mart associates say the 360 is expected to launch around november 4th in the U.S. all i know is that if microsoft puts there hard-core gaming fans through all of this, i will take my a$s to gamestop and buy a ps3 when it comes out. Unregistered - Simo 08.20.2005 22:32 just right clicked on the image and pressed play and the rabbit dissipears and the word origen apears but it looks more like ougen than anything now zoom up on it 2 really weird keep looking and find where the "r" fits in it just doesnt, might be insugnificant but everyone take a look cus its baffling me at the mo. Unregistered - Josh 08.20.2005 22:36 Read the updates Simo, its Origen, it's just in cursive. WE've had this arguement. Unregistered - thedagger 08.20.2005 22:38 as i was looking at the web sight, i found that the word does in fact say ORIGEN, if you look the o above the i or as some would say "U", is indead te dot for the I in ORIGEN, so it is not OUGEN, it is (in my opinion) origen. Unregistered - Josh 08.20.2005 22:38 I was bored and messed around with the date on my computer and it's kinda weird, when I set it to August 20, 2004 its 40 days, when i set it to Jan 20, 2005 its 24 days. It doesn't really stay constant. Unregistered - atm 08.20.2005 22:42 i called and asked microsoft if this site was legit and the microsoft representative reported to me that the only official news on xbox/xbox 360 info can be found at microsoft.com and that any other website are unlegit and are highly chanced to be fake..im thinkin wat if this is a countdown that was leaked and if so wouldnt microsoft have banned the website a long time ago?? taken into consideration that it would be confidential and illegil if exposed unauorizely to the public...think about that...KW Unregistered - Simo 08.20.2005 22:42 jus got in from work havent had time to read all the posts thanks for clearing that up, gonna have a gud think bout this one like everyone else, by the way there's sum new screens up at ign.com of PGR3 not seen on here yet and a right up of the game they got to see it runnin defo worth a look. oh and planet xbox 360's got sum new vids in from confrence pro evo soccer 5 etc.have fun gonna keep tryin to crack this one. Unregistered - Xtrm 08.20.2005 22:45 Wow, you guys are true gamers! A gamer will stick with the game to figure out opponents, head bosses & puzzles/riddles. Bravo gamers, I wouldn’t expect anything less from Xbox fans! Unregistered - Josh 08.20.2005 22:48 Well chances are that the person you called wouldn't even know about this and wouldn't be authorized to tell you if they did. That would mean that all of ourcolony.net was fake and not legit as well (and you have to know that was all MS building hype). The ilovebees.com for Halo 2 showed up in movie theater commercials and they wouldn't say that they had anything to do with that, but they did. It's MS, they lie to you, get used to it. Unregistered - Jordan 08.20.2005 22:50 This may be a little off topic, but I was just wondering... Does anyone know exactally which nextgen console will have the best graphics? (this will still not change which system I will buy, I'm sticking with the 360) Unregistered - Josh 08.20.2005 22:53 We won't really know until they all come out, and graphics are more determined by the developers ability to code and use what the console has to offer than the console's specifications anyway. Unregistered - Jordan 08.20.2005 22:58 oh alright. I was j/w though, because Sony only played their trailers in prerendered graphics at E3, but all the Xbox360 trailors were completely real time!!! It's hard to believe that graphics are gonna look that good All THE TIME. Unregistered - Simo 08.20.2005 22:59 yeah a bit off topic but i agree with what josh said, but was very impressed to see the gundamn preview on ps3 running realtime a couple of weeks ago the example they showed at e3 i thought was just cgi but it turns out the graphics are just as good in the free roam version they we showing off almost cinematic, also if u havent seen the unreal 3 engine lowdown showing that it wasnt cgi definately worth taking a look it shows u the frames, adding the textures blahdy blah, hey im not bothered im gonna buy both anyway jus glad 360 is coming soon :) Unregistered - Jordan 08.20.2005 23:06 Yea, I'll probably wind up buying both systems too, but do you know if the PS3 will be backwards compatible? Unregistered - Simo 08.20.2005 23:08 not sure to be honest dont know as they have released any details on that so far more than likely id say cant see why not. Unregistered - Josh 08.20.2005 23:10 The PS3 will be backwards compatible all the way back to PSone. Unregistered - Jordan 08.20.2005 23:15 Sweet now I can sell my Ps2 to game Crazy and use the money on my acount to buy both nextgen systems!!! Unregistered - lil' gringo 08.20.2005 23:19 If im not mistaken the reason the gundam preview were real time was because it's also comeing to xbox360... i think Unregistered - Derek Thompson 08.20.2005 23:26 i thought that sony said it would be backward compatible only with ps2 Unregistered - Josh 08.20.2005 23:28 I believe they said both, and think about it, PS3 is BC with the PS2, which was BC with PSone Unregistered - Derek Thompson 08.20.2005 23:34 yea but that don't matter, but i think the e3 press conferance said ps2 only but i may be wrong. Unregistered - Simo 08.20.2005 23:36 Eveyone talks about the next gen but it isnt hear just yet.The time when videogames take up most of ur life.When comes the point where you can do anything u dream within a videogame? thus making your normal life insugnificant because u can do whatever you want when you want why would you go to work anymore?just to power what you doing?when comes the point when we make AI so clever that it starts thinking for itself.At the rate we are going with technology maybe there could be something sugnificant in the next 20 years. Did you know that sony is working on what has been dubbed as "the matrix theory" as we speak where you can touch and smell what is happening in a video game not much details have been released on this thus far but a short explanation is that are senses produce feelings to our brain about the situations we are in and they are working on duplicating that. Im really into technology and i appreciate what they have done with PGR3 for example there is going to come a time when u will get payed by sponsors for playing videogames and it isnt to far away, its all a matter of time as far as im concerned the company's have big technology but they cant afford to mass produce it at the moment for example imagine playing PGR3 on a cinema like screen which is possible with sonys new glasses that sit around ur eyes block all light and have surround sound feedback, it makes u feel like ur playing on a 56" screen from 2ft away all HD, then plus a steering wheel and pedals that you can buy that would be intense and amazing to say the least it will happen jus a matter of time(basically like being at the cinema but with only the screen in view u wud feel like ur driving that car because you cant even see the pedals and steering wheel infront of you)but then when is the point when company's like ferrari turn around and say we cant use there cars anymore because we can drive them so close to the real thing what is the point in them producing them anymore for substantial cost?maybe this is a good thing because we can lower the cost of production but then surely at the same time increasing the cost of videogames.Oh and a final note sum1 did actually die from playing to much videogames the otha day if i go and search for the article now i'll be here forever but basically he had just lost his job and played on a game for 42 hours straight without eating etc he lived in a country where you could actually earn money from playing, man i wish i could remember the details now but i suspect more cases like this in the future for sure. anyway could yap on all night but thanks to the people who have taken the time to read this post. A few of my favourite sayings.. "have you ever had a dream that felt so real if you were unable to awaken from that dream how would you know the difference between the real world and the dream world?" "lifes a game how you play it is upto you" Unregistered - Flying Muskrat 08.20.2005 23:44 user: partner password: xb0xr0ck$ do not hit enter afterwards, press OK only Unregistered - Flying Muskrat 08.20.2005 23:45 There really isn't much to see in there, but who knows, there may be clues Unregistered - JNW911 08.20.2005 23:46 You guys are getting way off topic. What bout the rabbit and the tree..Seriously, shouldn't discussion of games and graphics be done at a forum or something? Just trying to keep the flow. Unregistered - Ronrja 08.20.2005 23:47 well the password and UN above works ... Unregistered - Derek Thompson 08.20.2005 23:49 how did you find it out Unregistered - Simo 08.20.2005 23:50 We didn't actually land on the moon if you have ever read the full article about it then you will see why it is tecnically impossible the picutes were faked in a day when we cudnt tell that they were fake now we can and the evidence is substantial to say the least in one point they make it is technically impossible for it to be wronge but of course the goverment wud neva tell us this.Another thing people who don't think there are other life forms in space are the crazy ones the universe is enormous we can only see so far there is other life that has been developing millions of years on us they know were here there just not bothered about us were insugnificant to them think of it as this why would u go out of ur way to blow up an ants nest u jus wouldnt?being able to travel such an enormous distance in so little time ud just go straight past us.anyway not sure how old the people are reading these posts hope i dont give ya nightmares he he. Unregistered - simo 08.20.2005 23:51 respect Unregistered - Derek Thompson 08.20.2005 23:53 But what about the other page, does that user name and password work there too? Unregistered - Derek Thompson 08.20.2005 23:55 yea it does but it is the same thing Unregistered - Flying Muskrat 08.20.2005 23:55 I didn't actually get the password myself. Someone on the Xbox360 forums somehow had it and posted it in a thread. Just sharing the news. It seems like there really isn't anything new there (at all). It's mostly Xbox 1 stuff Unregistered - Derek Thompson 08.20.2005 23:57 Yea i know, it's kinda dissapointing after all that hype Unregistered - Sonikku 08.20.2005 23:58 Anyone who doesnt believe we landed on the moon watched too many oliver stone flicks. All those sites that 'proove' it was fake have been thouroughly debunked. Also, JFK was killed by Oswald, the CIA did not stage 9/11, and the King is dead. Unregistered - Sonikku 08.21.2005 00:01 http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/tv/foxapollo.html http://homepages.wmich.edu/~korista/moonhoax2.html Unregistered - Ronmar 08.21.2005 00:02 After I input the user info and went to my downloads and extra tab appeared named Trainging. It seems as if it is guides about how the X-box is built. Strange...as this stuff ever been released. Unregistered - Ronmar 08.21.2005 00:03 It was Training...I misspelt it. Unregistered - Derek 08.21.2005 00:06 I think the log in is part of something old. The whole design looks like Xbox and when you log in it says Xbox everywhere and E3 Tenth Anniversary. All the links evan link to Xbox info except a few out dated articles about the Xbox 360 from like May. I think this is just remains from an old site that happened to be on the server that they used for this new site. Unregistered - Ronrja 08.21.2005 00:08 someone add all the files and d-load them all see what happens ... Unregistered - Derek Thompson 08.21.2005 00:10 or just dl the good stuff Unregistered - Derek Thompson 08.21.2005 00:14 Was the origenxbox360.com site shown to public or did someone find it Unregistered - Simo 08.21.2005 00:17 Sonniku I respect ur opinnion but ur so wronge two simple examples as not to bore everyone, the best one my fave the one u can not argue with-when you take a picture there are 4 crosshairs that are consistant in an image(little crosses in each corner) but in 3 of the pimages nassa took the craft or the astronauts are infront of 1 of the crosshairs meening that the craft or astronauts have been added on after the base background image simple fact, fact 2- two of the pictures which nassa said were on OPPISITE sides of the moon when super imposed against eachother on a computer are exactly the same background, wow jus two more- at first it was thought that the astronauts were bouncing across the moon almost gliding but infact when u speed the footage up they are running this then has been slowed down.last fact even tho i could go on allday there is ONLY ONE LIGHT SOURCE IN SPACE FACT which is behind neil armstrong but there is also a light source on the front of his helmet absolutely impossible unless using studio lights fact.one last thing it is technically impossible to land on the moon at the moment because of the radiation there not saying we havent been into space jus not to the moon.man sorry jus a short one there's no wind in space FACT but the flag is blowing.man i cant help myself ok the last shuttle america sent out was orbiting at 250 miles above the earth but the moon is around 3000 away almost 12 times that distance again i meen they cudnt even get 250 miles right.anyway if u want to argue ur case more i'll list the rest of the facts but i think its done. Unregistered - Sonikku 08.21.2005 00:19 Obviously you didnt read the links I posted, the arguments you used were prooven wrong easily. But thanks for playing. Unregistered - kamakazy 08.21.2005 00:19 CAN YOU GUYS ALL STFU AND GO BACK TO THE TOPIC? Unregistered - Sonikku 08.21.2005 00:21 Bad: Another argument by the HBs deals with shadows. Several photos from the Moon are shown where objects on the lunar landscape have long shadows. If the Sun were the only light source, the program claims, the shadows should be parallel. The shadows are not parallel, and therefore the images are fake. Good: This is an interesting claim on the part of the HBs, because on the surface (haha) it seems to make sense. However, let's assume the shadows are not parallel. One explanation is that there are (at least) two light sources, and that is certainly what many HBs are trying to imply. So if there are multiple light sources, where are the multiple shadows? Each object casts one shadow, so there can only be one light source. Another explanation is that the light source is close to the objects; then it would also cast non-parallel shadows. However, a distant source can as well! In this case, the Sun really is the only source of light. The shadows are not parallel in the images because of perspective. Remember, you are looking at a three-dimensional scene, projected on a two-dimensional photograph. That causes distortions. When the Sun is low and shadows are long, objects at different distance do indeed appear to cast non-parallel shadows, even here on Earth. An example of that can be found at another debunking site. The scene (near the bottom of the above-linked page) shows objects with non-parallel shadows, distorted by perspective. If seen from above, all the shadows in the Apollo images would indeed look parallel. You can experience this for yourself; go outside on a clear day when the Sun is low in the sky and compare the direction of the shadows of near and far objects. You'll see that they appear to diverge. Here is a major claim of the HBs that you can disprove all by yourself! Don't take my word for it, go out and try! Incidentally, the bright Earth in the sky will also cast shadows, but those would be very faint compared to the ones made by the Sun. So in a sense there are multiple shadows, but like not being able to see stars, the shadows are too faint to be seen against the very bright lunar surface. Again, you can test this yourself: go outside during full Moon and you'll see your shadow. Then walk over to a streetlamp. The light from the streetlamp will wash out the shadow cast by the Moon. You might still be able to see it faintly, but it would difficult against the much brighter landscape. Bad: The program has two segments dealing with what they call ``identical backgrounds''. In one, they show the lunar lander with a mountain in the background. They then show another picture of the same mountain, but no lander in the foreground at all. The astronauts could not have taken either picture before landing, of course, and after it lifts off the lander leaves the bottom section behind. Therefore, there would have been something in the second image no matter what, and the foreground could not be empty. Obviously, the mountain background is a fake set, and was reused by NASA for another shot. Good: Actually, the pictures are real, of course. As always, repeat after me: the Moon is not the Earth. On the Earth, distant objects are obscured a bit by haze in the air, and we use that to mentally gauge distances. However, with no air, an object can be very far away on the Moon and still be crisp and sharp to the eye. You can't tell if a boulder is a meter across and 100 meters away, or 100 meters across and 10 kilometers away! That's what's going on here. The lander is close to the astronaut in the first picture, perhaps a 20 or 30 meters away. The mountain is kilometers away. For the second picture, the astronaut merely moved a few hundred meters to the side. The lander was then out of the picture, but the mountain hardly moved at all! If you look at the scene carefully, you'll see that all the rocks and craters in the foreground changes between the two pictures, just as you'd expect if the astronaut had moved to the side a ways between the two shots. It's not fraud, it's parallax! Another example of the difficulty in estimating distance is due to the shapes of the rocks on the Moon. A rock small enough to sit down on doesn't look fundamentally different from one bigger than your house. Humans also judge distance by using the relative sizes of objects. We know how big a person is, or a tree, so the apparent size of the object can be used to estimate the distance. If we don't know how big the object is, we can be fooled about its distance. For an outstanding example of this, take a look at video taken during Apollo 16. There is a boulder in the background that looks to be about 3 or 4 meters (10-13 feet) high. About 3/4 of the way through the segment the astronauts walk over to it. Amazingly, that boulder is the size of a large house! Without knowing how big the rock was when we first see it, we have no way to judge distances. That huge rock looks like a medium sized one until we have some way to directly judge its size; in this case, by looking at the tiny astronauts next to it. [My thanks to Bad Reader Martin Michalak for bringing this video to my attention. My very special thanks goes to Charlie Duke (yes, the Charlie Duke, Apollo astronaut and lunar lander pilot) who emailed me (!) about the difficulty in judging distances due to not knowing the sizes of rocks.] I will admit the Fox program had me for a while on this one; I couldn't figure it out. But then I got a note from Bad Reader David Bailey, who set me straight. However, the producers of the show should have talked to some real experts before saying such a silly thing as this. If they had checked with the folks who run the Apollo Lunar Surface Journal, for example, they would have been set straight too. Bad: When the movies of the astronauts walking and driving the lunar rover are doubled in speed, they look just like they were filmed on Earth and slowed down. This is clearly how the movies were faked. Good: This was the first new bit I have seen from the HBs, and it's funny. To me even when sped up, the images didn't look like they were filmed in Earth's gravity. The astronauts were sidling down a slope, and they looked weird to me, not at all like they would on Earth. I will admit that if wires were used, the astronauts' gait could be simulated. However, not the rover! If you watch the clip, you will see dust thrown up by the wheels of the rover. The dust goes up in a perfect parabolic arc and falls back down to the surface. Again, the Moon isn't the Earth! If this were filmed on the Earth, which has air, the dust would have billowed up around the wheel and floated over the surface. This clearly does not happen in the video clips; the dust goes up and right back down. It's actually a beautiful demonstration of ballistic flight in a vacuum. Had NASA faked this shot, they would have had to have a whole set (which would have been very large) with all the air removed. We don't have this technology today! This is another case of selective vision on the part of the HBs. Bad: When the astronauts are assembling the American flag, the flag waves. Kaysing says this must have been from an errant breeze on the set. A flag wouldn't wave in a vacuum. Good: Of course a flag can wave in a vacuum. In the shot of the astronaut and the flag, the astronaut is rotating the pole on which the flag is mounted, trying to get it to stay up. The flag is mounted on one side on the pole, and along the top by another pole that sticks out to the side. In a vacuum or not, when you whip around the vertical pole, the flag will ``wave'', since it is attached at the top. The top will move first, then the cloth will follow along in a wave that moves down. This isn't air that is moving the flag, it's the cloth itself. New stuff added March 1, 2001: Many HBs show a picture of an astronaut standing to one side of the flag, which still has a ripple in it (for example, see this famous image). The astronaut is not touching the flag, so how can it wave? The answer is, it isn't waving. It looks like that because of the way the flag was deployed. The flag hangs from a horizontal rod which telescopes out from the vertical one. In Apollo 11, they couldn't get the rod to extend completely, so the flag didn't get stretched fully. It has a ripple in it, like a curtain that is not fully closed. In later flights, the astronauts didn't fully deploy it on purpose because they liked the way it looked. In other words, the flag looks like it is waving because the astronauts wanted it to look that way. Ironically, they did their job too well. It appears to have fooled a lot of people into thinking it waved. This explanation comes from NASA's wonderful spaceflight web page. For those of you who are conspiracy minded, of course, this doesn't help because it comes from a NASA site. But it does explain why the flag looks as it does, and you will be hard pressed to find a video of the flag waving. And if it was a mistake caused by a breeze on the set where they faked this whole thing, don't you think the director would have tried for a second take? With all the money going to the hoax, they could afford the film! Note added March 28, 2001: One more thing. Several readers have pointed out that if the flag is blowing in a breeze, why don't we see dust blowing around too? Somehow, the HBs' argument gets weaker the more you think about it. Unregistered - JNW911 08.21.2005 00:23 Take your "Conspiracy" crap elsewhere. This space is dedicated to those who are hoping to solve this riddle!! Unregistered - Sonikku 08.21.2005 00:27 Alas, I do agree it is crap. I just fill obliged on to educate people. It's sad really that people can ignore all the facts, which are accepted by the scientiffic community, are provable, have been prooven, and to dishonor the astronauts who went to the moon with such silly nonsense. You proove one of thier arguments wrong, and then they sue the same one 3 seconds later. It's very sad. I'm Done. I really hope you read those links I posted, for your own good and education. Unregistered - kamakazy 08.21.2005 00:27 yeah get the hell out of here. Unregistered - Sonikku 08.21.2005 00:31 Hey, no need to be nasty, though my paste did come out longer than expeted, and I do apologise. just trying to educate someone who was in dire need of it :-) Sometimes I do shed a tear for the ignorant ones ;( Anyway, back on subject. I'm thinking odds are when the countdown is over it will just be the official launch dates being announced, or myabe some neat service, but nothing too major. We'll see though :-) Unregistered - haloman 08.21.2005 00:34 Yeah please STFU! Get back on topic... Unregistered - ro 08.21.2005 00:35 Honestly Sonikku ... i dont think anyone gives a fuck about us landing on the moon... maybe 30 years ago we wouldve Unregistered - Simo 08.21.2005 00:38 hey had a quick read through that great post i'll be having an indepth read tommorrow or should i say today it's now 05:35 UK time and i'd love to read it in detail and post back but im gonna be here allday or should i say allnight :) I'll post tommoz on here and we can carry on with our discussion look forward to hearing from you and just a little sorry to the people who are on this board for getting totally off the subject. Unregistered - xenokiller 08.21.2005 00:38 i dont know if any of u know this but wen you go to ourcolony.net and refresh the page a few times the pic will change. ive goten about 5 or 6 diferent pics. could any of these pics meen anything. Unregistered - Simo 08.21.2005 00:42 ok maybe i wont post on here tommoz just read the posts from the other guys and they are getting really pissed off.n1 talking to ya tho even though you did get a bit harsh, still cant remember seeing an explanation about the crosshairs but maybe i missed that i'll have a read tommoz. Unregistered - Xtrm 08.21.2005 00:48 Dusty, now look what you started. hahaha J/K..... But even if these guys think they have solved the riddle, they will never get a confirmed answer until the timer runs out so it's really kind of pointless. Unregistered - kamakazy 08.21.2005 01:00 anyone know when the premium will come out on nov 25th with hd dvd was posted in wikipedia Unregistered - Shagg187 08.21.2005 01:01 Ok... first of all... it has NOTHING to do with Xbox Live Service In the US and Canada. It has to do with EMEA... as in Europe, Middle East and Asia... Now Maybe Microsoft is expanding its Xbox Live Services Across Middle East And Asia... but who knows... the actual site is xboxemea.com if someone from Europe has Xbox Live Service... try logging in.... Unregistered - Bill Gates 08.21.2005 01:03 Hey guys its Gates here! I just wanted you guys to know that you guys are a bunch of morons for wasting ur time on this gay riddle. u guys can suck my billionaire cock biatch! Unregistered - Brandon Shipe 08.21.2005 01:42 The link you posted in one of your last updates (https://www.origenxbox360.com/welcome.asp) is simply the Press Extranet login for Europe and the Middle East. If you have access (which I and many others do), you'll find that the only thing they have on the page is a bunch of outdated E3 news. See for yourselves here: http://www.filerushnews.com/images/FileRushNewsPics/amp.jpg Unregistered - MS 08.21.2005 01:47 "When you didn't capture the attention of someone in the past, next time in the future, do it bigger and smarter, then they will put attention on what you are trying to offer" J.A "People rising up while the sun is still shinning, on 9 something big is going the happen and you will be surprised" Some of you guy has already the answer to all this and even some extras, so you guys just need to wait and find it out, no more clues for now, maybe next week. I'm in a big trouble people at the xbox marketing sector is already searching my person, just, dont forget, this is not a joke, really trust me something BIG is going to happen.NG Unregistered - alboberries 08.21.2005 01:56 I can wait, as long as it's something BIG. And, if some of these people have already found it out, all the better... Unregistered - Conejo 08.21.2005 02:12 "During the build up to the race there will be 1000+ london wide running clinics ___ swot team that turn up, morning (__). lunch times ( T___ stations) evening ( T___ stations), they'll look after your bags, split the group up into varying standards, give advice and then go on runs" SWOT, apparently stands for strengths, weaknesses, opportunities, threats. pretty much looks like a mcguffin to me. Unregistered - Osiris 08.21.2005 02:21 Can anyone else not access the resource pag without being timed out? Unregistered - Sakka 08.21.2005 03:02 Cortana is in the bottom right of the trunk. Master Chief is in the top right. They look like they did in Halo 1. Think about origin. I'm thinking origin of Halo will be released 360 style. Unregistered - PsychoMantis 08.21.2005 03:17 I dont know if this was intentional or not, but i can see the master cheif very clearly. I cant see cortana though. It really outlines him perfectly. You can tell that the right branch is his gun. Maybe they are anouncing Halo 2.5 built in the HD, or maybe it is Halo 3. The more I look at it, the more i see it. Great find! Unregistered - Osiris 08.21.2005 03:48 I cant see it. If anyone would be willing to photoshop or paint an outline around it it would be highly appreciated. But going along with the theme, the bunny kinda looks like a prophet sitting in his chair... Unregistered - Albyno Ryno 08.21.2005 03:49 If you zoom in on the leafs a few times and keep forward and playing, not only does the rabbit vanish but the pixels of the leafs shift also. anything hidden in the leafs? Unregistered - Perty_Slick 08.21.2005 03:54 "DURING THE BUILD UP TO THE RACE THERE WILL BE 1000+ LONDON WIDE, RUNNING CLINICS. NINE SWAT TEAM THAT TURN UP, MORNING (GYMS), LUNCHTIMES (TUBE STATIONS), EVENING (TUBE STATIONS). THEY'LL LOOK AFTER YOUR BAGS, SPLIT THE GROUP UP INTO VARYING STANDARDS, GIVE ADVICE AND THEN GO ON RUNS" What does this mean? Unregistered - DrMalice 08.21.2005 04:03 You guys do realize that the Tokoyo Game Show is coming up Next Month Unregistered - Perty_Slick 08.21.2005 04:05 Tube Stations could be TV or News staions huh? Unregistered - sctv 08.21.2005 04:43 We apologise, but the site is currently unavailable due to essential site maintenance Please check back in a couple of hours somewhere inside http://www.xboxemea.com/welcome.asp Unregistered - mark 08.21.2005 05:57 in comment 314 E.D says "not sure about this bit (looks like nike)" i do know for sure that the xbox 360 was designed by the same company that designs nike clothing. Unregistered - Wes 08.21.2005 06:00 Have we come any closer to working out the meaning of the origenxbox360 site? Unregistered - mark 08.21.2005 06:02 sorry just realised what he meant.sorry. but the nike thing is true Unregistered - Wes 08.21.2005 06:05 I'v just been on to another site.. there is another countdown (just to let you all know if you didnt). launch360.org . . if im right, this counts down to November 4th. Whats this one for?and does it have anything to do with the origen countdown? Unregistered - mark 08.21.2005 06:08 site looks official.could be date for america Unregistered - ulph 08.21.2005 06:15 I was thinking about the text. "DURING THE BUILD UP TO THE RACE THERE WILL BE 1000+ LONDON WIDE". Couldn´t it be that the console will be playable in stores etc the day the counter points at? Not for sale, just one machine for display and for us to test. Unregistered - ulph 08.21.2005 06:19 Don´t you think that make sense? During the race (for us the waiting) 1000+ consoles will be availible london wide. Thinking on those xbox "kiosk" we have seen pics on... Unregistered - Annonymous 08.21.2005 06:29 But that qouldnt tie in with the clue we got from ms : (look at tone of the updates) Unregistered - Annonymous 08.21.2005 06:29 But that qouldnt tie in with the clue we got from ms : (look at tone of the updates) Unregistered - Mike 08.21.2005 06:49 Wikipedia has another article update on Origen. It just says 'It's Coming* G8r... I don't think this wiki thing is fake, guys Unregistered - mark 08.21.2005 06:52 could you do a link to wiki please Unregistered - Chuffster 08.21.2005 06:53 All that stuff about tube stations and bags just makes me think of terrorism in LONDON!!! Unregistered - Mike (CLICK HERE FOR WIKI ARTICLE!!) 08.21.2005 06:54 OK . just click on my name above It's in this section: Conflict with Demetrius and removal to Caesarea Unregistered - Mike (CLICK HERE FOR JPEG OF ORIGEN!!) 08.21.2005 06:56 Here's a jpeg Unregistered - Shabazz 08.21.2005 06:59 Why do the DVD drives look different? One is shiny and the other is not (core)? Could that mean something? thoughts? Unregistered - tuxedoman 08.21.2005 07:01 Wiki said that because the premium has an hddvd drive and the core has dvd Unregistered - Wes 08.21.2005 07:01 Yea i noticed that i while back. i figured that its just a microsoft method of distinguishing between the two packs. (on looking at the console, it is the only difference between the two. Im still thinking wiki might be fake btw guys, cause anyone can post anything on it. Unregistered - netgem21 08.21.2005 07:03 Look at wiki articles for HD-DVD, xbox360, Halo Game Series, ougen, origen, etc. any words related. and check the history as files may have bee chnaged. but the wiki thing is legit. i cant say how i know, but lets just say i have connections, ok? Unregistered - MS guy 08.21.2005 07:04 *The Wikipedia articles are puzzles from the company in question. It is up to you to decide if you believe them or not.* Unregistered - Annonymous 08.21.2005 07:08 My question is how hav we come2th wiki thng.Wht frm origen360.com has pointd us here, or r we js lookin at a randm place? Unregistered - Mike 08.21.2005 07:13 CHECK ORIGENXBOX360.COM QUICK!!!! THE RABBIT HAS an 8 ON IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Unregistered - smith78 08.21.2005 07:14 what does that mean? Unregistered - John Williams 08.21.2005 07:15 I think the soloution is getting closer. Gamem8ker maybe? Unregistered - netgem21 08.21.2005 07:16 here's a jpeg for you. http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/5675/wikiorigen4cj.png Unregistered - apple_luva 08.21.2005 07:17 i think thats wwot the 2 dots r for. the 8 goes round them mayb? Unregistered - 08.21.2005 07:19 http://img398.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bunny80015zx.jpg Unregistered - Dusty 08.21.2005 07:33 I have made some more updates and written a summary, please check the original article to find these. Unregistered - Big Bill 08.21.2005 07:44 Lol!That 8 has got to be the worse fake I`ve ever seen-it`s not on the Origen site,it`s just someone trying to be funny Unregistered - 8-balls 08.21.2005 07:54 NO. IT'S DEFINATELLY THERE. WELL IT WAS Unregistered - The Gamem8ker 08.21.2005 07:55 *XO is coming* Unregistered - The Gamem8ker 08.21.2005 07:58 XO is stuck in heavy traffic....may have to turn back........ Unregistered - J Allard 08.21.2005 08:10 Hey I'm J Allard! I'm laughing at you trying to guess my secret! Unregistered - Bill Gates 08.21.2005 08:25 You are fired J Allard :), you can pack your bag now Unregistered - carl 08.21.2005 08:38 its just something easy. like a smaller original xbox a la psOne. the first one was a bit chunky, after all.... Unregistered - carl 08.21.2005 08:41 oh, and the thing in the hidden text? it sounds suspiciously like the blurb that nike are pumping out about their new 'Run London' Campaign. in fact, at least 75% of it is is exactly the same. http://www.runlondon.com/nikeruns/ Unregistered - That Guy 08.21.2005 08:57 Ah, sleep. Anyhow the last legit clue said 9 again and that some of us figured it out, plus extras. So it's either a September release in Japan, or HD-DVD in November, or both. I think the core system will ship in Japan in September, and M$ will announce that at TGS. When this counter expires we will learn that the premium 360 has an HD-DVD drive, and that it will ship in mid-November for the same price. Good work all! Unregistered - lil' gringo 08.21.2005 09:13 a chatsession will be held over at http://majornelson.com/ with J. Allard, mby you could ask him some questions regarding all this, not sure if he will answer but it's worth a try Unregistered - wincas 08.21.2005 09:54 The mysterious (and very small) text on the login page could be a "magic image". Hidden Image Stereograms This type of single image stereogram has a hidden image within it. http://www.vision3d.com/3views.html Try this!! Unregistered - Josh 08.21.2005 10:00 I think that the launch360.org website may have been posted to point out to us that the origenxbox360 website is not a launch date and that whatever it's counting down to, is not a launch. Unregistered - John 08.21.2005 10:09 go to www.xboxemea.com. its the same login page as the origenxbox login! Unregistered - rob 08.21.2005 10:09 woh wait maybe the coundown is to the mountain dew contest?? i have to check if it matches the date Unregistered - Dusty 08.21.2005 10:24 Added a list of what have been guessed so far. See bottom of the article Unregistered - Annonymous 08.21.2005 10:34 Maybe there is something in the text at the bottom of the xboxmea site that gives a clue to the login/password that we want to guess? Unregistered - Josh 08.21.2005 11:05 i know some people have login and password, but is there anyone who can tell us what it is? Unregistered - gammaman 08.21.2005 11:15 login:partner password:xb0xr0ck$ Unregistered - Perty_Slick 08.21.2005 11:33 As cool as this is, in the end it's just a great stunt by Microsoft advertising for XBox 360. Building up the hype. Good Job Microsoft. In the end the only date I truly care about is the launch or pre-sell dates, (which will not be in September)so I think I'm done with this game for a while. Good Luck All. Unregistered - Halo God 08.21.2005 11:45 Man this is wierd Unregistered - Halo God 08.21.2005 11:48 okay guys im just shootin here but the tree looks like the tree in the halo 2 level gemini and gemini is symbol for may ???? Unregistered - lil' gringo 08.21.2005 11:52 http://www.origenxbox360.com/images/countdown/countdown.jpg Unregistered - Eddie 08.21.2005 11:57 damn, i thought when i left yesterday u guys would only be at two hundred comments by now, this is amazing, with the xception of that stupid ass moon landing shit, but anyway, i do agree with halo god, it does look like the tree in gemini, it could possibly be a release for halo 3 like i was sayin earlier. Unregistered - gammaman 08.21.2005 11:57 this may sound obvious, but is very true, for MS hinted that the key to solving the puzzles lies in the words that are capitalized like RINGS CENTER TIME. It has something to do with these words. Unregistered - 360gamer 08.21.2005 12:01 does anyone know what the countdown on www.launch360.org is for Unregistered - Eddie 08.21.2005 12:01 In time, we will reach the center which is surrounded by rings. The time is obviously the countdown, the rings have something 2 do with a 360 or HDD, and at the center is either the xbox360, or, . . . us Unregistered - Wes 08.21.2005 12:02 Though halogod could have a point, it would suggest that microsoft and bungie were planning this countdown to an announcement for halo3 for nearly a year, which i dont think can be possible. Unregistered - Eddie 08.21.2005 12:03 yea, its a countdown timer 2 when some retailers think the 360 is comin Unregistered - Wes 08.21.2005 12:04 yea i think the centre is us, or the xbox360 universe. The rings a think are pointing towards a new type of disk (ie HD DVD), because disks spin in circles (ie, rings) Unregistered - Eddie 08.21.2005 12:05 well, the halo3 thing could be true since its gemini, which means may, like halogod stated, sony also stated that piece of shit 3 would be comin out in spring of 06 sometime, and gates said that halo3 would comeout on the sameday as ps3, so it could be true Unregistered - gammaman 08.21.2005 12:06 why did he always end with NG in his posts, and pooling the NG with others who have found an S and an P could these letters be spelling something, maybe SPRING? Unregistered - Wes 08.21.2005 12:09 i dont think it can be halo. because the clue given by MS (deciphered in update 8), points nothing towards spring.. it only makes claims for november and september. Unregistered - Eddie 08.21.2005 12:09 ok, so we agree on that the center is "us". So at the center of xbox360univese is us, which is surrounded by the beutiful hd filled world of xbox360 and time is something we have 2 create more things 2 fill the universe with, aka more games Unregistered - DjeRyu 08.21.2005 12:09 Aren't bonsai evergreens? That looks more like a dogwood, to me Unregistered - Wes 08.21.2005 12:13 That sounds good, exept for the time bit. i suggest the time bit possibly links to growth (things grow with time), which is why i think it is HD DVD(at the end of the count), as this is much larger than the origional move by MS Unregistered - cupoftea 08.21.2005 12:15 Don't know if this is related at all but I saw 2 posters of green rabbits in London today. One on Picadilly Circus and one in Camden Market. There was some writing and phonenumbers on them but i didn't read it very carefully. Might go back and check it out again tomorrow. Unregistered - Eddie 08.21.2005 12:16 ok, then time could mean bigger and better things. I mean halo was the 1st game for xbox, then u got doom 3, halo 2, and splintercell chaostheory, these 4 games make halo ones graphics look like a ps1 game, with time we get bigger and better games Unregistered - Annonymous 08.21.2005 12:17 Green Cartoony Rabbits? Like the one on the site? Unregistered - gammaman 08.21.2005 12:17 did they just add another day cuz my computer clock is correct. Unregistered - Wes 08.21.2005 12:19 Thats another good call man, but it doesnt tie in with a statement to be made by MS at the end of the countdown :S Unregistered - Halo God 08.21.2005 12:22 okay i think some one said something along these lines before but lets say the rabbit is the 360 the tree keeps the rabbit alive by giving out oxygen so what ever the tree symbolises that is what is making the 360 possible Unregistered - Wes 08.21.2005 12:24 Yea.. n we decided earlier that theres a good chance the tree is us and the 360 universe, and the rabbit is the 360. Unregistered - rob 08.21.2005 12:26 omg u guys go to launch360.org. click on get code. right click on the counter and click forward. it says xbox 360 has arrived. nov 4 is launch date! Unregistered - Eddie 08.21.2005 12:26 mayb the tree is us. U said the tree gives oxygen 2 the rabbit that is really the 360, well the 360 needs customers which gives money, and we are the tree, we feed the rabbit Unregistered - seep 08.21.2005 12:27 that countdown has been there for ages its just a predicted relase date. Unregistered - seep 08.21.2005 12:29 check out this image it says origen in the leaves.http://www.origenxbox360.com/images/countdown/countdown.jpg Unregistered - Chris 08.21.2005 12:29 Its counting down to 12 noon setember 26th in every country, well it is here in england... Unregistered - Dusty 08.21.2005 12:33 Guys ckeck out update 18 and let me know what you think? :) Unregistered - Eddie 08.21.2005 12:38 it says origen in the tree Unregistered - rob 08.21.2005 12:38 instead of forwarding to the end of the countdown try setting ur computer times to halfway through the countdown maybe the pic will change even more?? Unregistered - Xenokiller 08.21.2005 12:39 origen could possibly be a name of a future game. a 3 has been mention but i dont see it, but if it is there maybe is hinting a 3rd game and origen being a code for possible a 3rd halo game that takes us back in time to the origen of how halo was created?? any thoughts on this Unregistered - Eddie 08.21.2005 12:42 ok, origin, not origen, also means birth, start, foundation, beginning, source.. Unregistered - rob 08.21.2005 12:42 maybe halo 3s full name will be somethin like halo 3:origin of ... Unregistered - Halo God 08.21.2005 12:44 yuo can pre order the xbox at certain storesive already done it Unregistered - rob 08.21.2005 12:44 ive preordered mine also Unregistered - Eddie 08.21.2005 12:45 well there is alot of evidence pointing towards something with halo. We have somethin 2 do with gemini and may, somethin origin, or also meaning index, which plays a huge role with halo, some pics about, also some other stuff Unregistered - Wes 08.21.2005 12:45 i think the 3 dusty said, is just meaning the third picture on this comment page Unregistered - rob 08.21.2005 12:46 hey u guys theres gonna be a chat with j allrd today make sure u guys ask him about this site. for more info look on totalnxtgen.com or planexbox360.com Unregistered - Eddie 08.21.2005 12:47 that coul be it, Halo3: the origen of _________? the origen means beginning, and anyone that knows alot about halo like i do knows that earth has something 2 do with starting the halo rings, hence earth is the origen Unregistered - Wes 08.21.2005 12:47 but the halo 3 thing has no relevance to Japan, and if the statement made by MS is legit, then this site has something to do with japan. the japanese people arent big on FPS games. I disagree heavily on the halo3 idea. Unregistered - Halo God 08.21.2005 12:48 where can you chat with him?? Unregistered - Halo God 08.21.2005 12:50 well at the begining the ms guy said it had somthing to do with circle circles are the halo or the rings if someone already said this sorry Unregistered - Eddie 08.21.2005 12:52 yea i no, but even still doesnt hurt 2 try, but with chat, who can chat, does anyone have an online membership with microsoft Unregistered - seep 08.21.2005 12:54 maybe the bonsai is gravemind when he was a kid:} Unregistered - rob 08.21.2005 12:55 i tred getting a ms passpoort to chat with him(its going on right now). whenevr i type in my email address to make an account it says email already in use...wtf!! Unregistered - Halo God 08.21.2005 12:55 I'll be back in a little while Unregistered - Eddie 08.21.2005 12:58 yea i tried gettin in, but its full Unregistered - seep 08.21.2005 12:59 if you look at the stake behind the "rabbit" and use your paint program follow the angle of it upwards and you will see that the second stud is would be on the edge and not center like the first stud? Unregistered - rob 08.21.2005 13:00 i just hope in the chat someone brings up originxbox360.com. i want some info on this Unregistered - DjeRyu 08.21.2005 13:01 The chat with J Allard is two hours away but, the room has already filled up. :( Unregistered - Eddie 08.21.2005 13:07 alright, i am in the chat room but i still have 2 wait, Unregistered - DjeRyu 08.21.2005 13:10 I got in but, it's an empty room? wtf? Unregistered - Ben 08.21.2005 13:23 This may be a dumb question, but how do u get in the room? Unregistered - DjeRyu 08.21.2005 13:24 There's a link at majornelson.com Here's where it is, though...http://www.microsoft.com/communities/chats/chatrooms/beta.aspx Unregistered - YomasterXBL 08.21.2005 13:28 I don't think that it has to do with any of the release dates, it's gonna be something way off of all of our guesses, SERIOUSLY.... WE'RE DEALING WITH MICROSOFT! This is gonna be something random, but awesome. I can't wait to see. I think we've found ourselves another ARG..... Unregistered - Eddie 08.21.2005 13:29 is anyone else in the chatroom or is it just me Unregistered - Ben 08.21.2005 13:31 I'll be in in a min. Unregistered - Ben 08.21.2005 13:32 I am in. Unregistered - JP 08.21.2005 13:33 1PM PST would be 4pm EST right? Unregistered - DjeRyu 08.21.2005 13:34 Apparently we are all in separate rooms. Must be staging areas or something. Unregistered - JP 08.21.2005 13:35 So when exactly does this start, EST. Unregistered - DjeRyu 08.21.2005 13:36 Right, JP... 12P, 1M, 2C, 3E Unregistered - Halo god 08.21.2005 13:36 im in Unregistered - Jamie[UK] 08.21.2005 13:37 i can get in on firefox but not see other people, i can see them now im using IE, quite laggy though. Unregistered - Eddie 08.21.2005 13:37 ben what is your ur name on the microsoft chatroom Unregistered - Eddie 08.21.2005 13:38 halo god whatis ur name in the chat room Unregistered - Halo God 08.21.2005 13:38 my name in the chat is halo god Unregistered - DjeRyu 08.21.2005 13:40 Good call, Jamie! Firefox = not on M$! Unregistered - Eddie 08.21.2005 13:40 i sent u a private message halo god Unregistered - Halo God 08.21.2005 13:44 eddie i didnt get it Unregistered - Wes 08.21.2005 13:48 So ur gonna ask him what the deal is with the origen thing? like.. whats happenin in the countdown? Unregistered - Eddie 08.21.2005 13:49 yo anyone else in the chat room Unregistered - Halo God 08.21.2005 13:49 yup Unregistered - Eddie 08.21.2005 13:52 there just abunch od people askin questions about stupid shit, still have 2 wait an hourr Unregistered - JA1230JAS 08.21.2005 13:52 hey im on the chat my nick is: JA1230JAS halo god are you in? Unregistered - Halo God 08.21.2005 13:55 yup im in j Unregistered - sctv 08.21.2005 14:07 im in as sctv Unregistered - The man 08.21.2005 14:51 Mabe there announcing multiple things when the count down ends Unregistered - Carlos X 08.21.2005 14:55 Why? FFX had "orgin" as a monster's name. Unregistered - Carlos X 08.21.2005 14:57 Origin. But I do know it has a lot to do with a Final Fantasy game. Its a gut feeling from me. Unregistered - king 08.21.2005 15:11 i personaly think its just a tree with a green rabbit! maybe microsoft is making a new game with rabbits or they found a picture of a tree and liked it so they put it on a page with a countdown. the countdown prob means teir going to kill a rabbit or summin? ahh i dunno maybe its jus me, hell at least this post is better than the thing about the moon landing!! Unregistered - Osiris 08.21.2005 15:34 K, I am back guys. I tried to get into the chat, but it says there is an error loading it...wes still here? Unregistered - haloman 08.21.2005 15:51 I was in the chat at 12pm but then got blown out. Can't connect now... Hope Major Nelson posts the transcripts! Unregistered - sctv 08.21.2005 15:53 yerh same here, it now says "Operation failed, please try again." Unregistered - dude61988 08.21.2005 15:54 same here Unregistered - sctv 08.21.2005 15:56 lol, i think everyone how asked about the www.origenxbox360.com website got the boot. Unregistered - Minute Man 08.21.2005 16:02 I was in the chat but got booted and can't reconnect. Everyone was asking the same question about the harddrive and why prices were so high. All I wanted to know was, how will modding be done? Do we have to mod the game on our pc then transfer the file over to the 360, or what? I hope my question was chosen and someone could help me out here Unregistered - wincas 08.21.2005 16:44 Origen....beguin beguin...xbox (the first xbox) https://www.origenxbox360.com/default.asp (in this web we can see the logo of the first xbox not the logo of xbox 360) I think microsoft has soomething to say about the retrocompatibility or something about the older xbox. Sorry for my english, i'm spanish girl. Unregistered - Wes 08.21.2005 16:50 he wasnt me man (osirus). I was just watchin mr deeds. im bak on the case again. Unregistered - Chuffster 08.21.2005 16:51 VERY good point! Unregistered - Wes 08.21.2005 16:54 dudty keep an eye on this discussion. your points are just as valid as everyone elses, n we need more ideas! Unregistered - Wes 08.21.2005 16:55 sorry man, i misspelled. Dusty! Unregistered - Wes 08.21.2005 16:56 So did J Allard give any useful information about origen? Or has anyone thought of any more ideas? Unregistered - Wes 08.21.2005 17:08 Has everyone stopped checkin this one out? If your here with us post a comment!! Unregistered - Dusty 08.21.2005 17:10 I have deleted the fake post, and as I said you are all welcome to keep this going, and I will try to keep an eye on what is posted, just not as often as I have over the last two day. Not because I don't want to find out what the countdown is for, only because I need to spend more time writing new articles :) Unregistered - haloman 08.21.2005 17:13 Will keep check the progress here... Unregistered - rob 08.21.2005 17:25 im here Unregistered - Osiris 08.21.2005 17:31 Oh, ok good wes. I didn't think you would give up so easily. Unregistered - gammaman 08.21.2005 17:31 the announcment is that the 360 is going wifi, the A J E stand for who will get it and will ge able to play one another, the rings are the countries and the tree is the core the community base? Unregistered - Osiris 08.21.2005 17:38 Well, I think you all know that wasn't me. Unregistered - Wes 08.21.2005 17:45 don't worry man... we got it covered! i cant think of anything new on this tho! Unregistered - MS 08.21.2005 17:46 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origenxbox360? Unregistered - Wes 08.21.2005 17:47 gamaman.. whats wifi? Unregistered - WHITE KNIGHT 08.21.2005 17:51 So that launch360.com says it's coming out the 4th.. is this just speculation and you never know the Origen could be a game like Fable which was like a fairytail like Alice in Wonderland.. maybe we're looking too closely into this. BTW well dus WES at da begginin of dis whole thing. Unregistered - Shabazz 08.21.2005 17:55 The transcripted just got posted! Unregistered - WHITE KNIGHT 08.21.2005 17:57 wats the transcripted Unregistered - Wes 08.21.2005 17:58 well dus? :S...? I'v just been trying to work ths one out. but your right, it could be as simple as a game, but the site is from microsoft, and we didnt have a countdown for other large game releases, such as Halo2 Unregistered - WHITE KNIGHT 08.21.2005 18:00 soz it was dun* And yer thats true they don't usually have sites but this is a next gen game for bill gates who likes to do things big ... and maybe its a new developer for xbox 360 only games. We'll just have to see Unregistered - Dusty 08.21.2005 18:02 Forget that J HD DVD quote I wrote. I got if off another site but it was a fake qoute. Here is the real quote Q: What is your opinion on HD-DVD? A: it's going to be interesting to see how and if a high def format for movies plays out. when we designed the the initial xbox many people asked if sacd or dvd audio would be the successor to the cd format for music. as everyone knows the real successor was mp3 and digital distribution with things like napster ipod and msn music. while there is a lot of talk about this in the industry it will be interesting to see what the exact future of this is for movies. of course i think there will be a need for higher capacity optical media for storage applications. we prefer hd-dvd to blu-ray in terms of the flexibility it offers to different applications as well as the infrastructure costs to the market. Unregistered - Wes 08.21.2005 18:04 It could be something to do with a developer, like a big japanese one (if all the clues have been covered correctly) Unregistered - DUDE YOUR GETTIN A DELL 08.21.2005 18:13 8===============================D~~~~ Unregistered - Panleth/router weapon 08.21.2005 18:14 "Clue: 2 systems, and a entire universe to explore. NG" What if the two systems thing isn't the core package and premium, but the Xbox360 and the Xbox? And what universe do they both have in common? Live, of course. This is clearly a big new feature for Live, that will not only affect the Xbox360, but also the Xbox. I would venture to say that this update would, at least as one of the options allow 360 users and Xbox users to play against each other. This is backed up by the flash on origenxbox360.com as well. The tree, I figure, is the World Tree, which in Slavic mythology held the entire universe. This tree holds the entire Xbox universe, which explains why Master Chief and the protagonist from Fable can be spotted in the Tree Trunk. Rabbits represent growth, as in the Live service will be growing. Perhaps at the end of the countdown, the will be launching a website/online community for members of Live to come and mingle, maybe with exclusive content for members. That's my best guess. If this ends up being right, credit goes to Panleth and router weapon. Unregistered - Bo 08.21.2005 18:28 Why is there a period after the first number and not the rest? example:"36.18 29 25" Unregistered - Panleth/router weapon 08.21.2005 18:32 Because the Tree and the Bunny are covering the periods. Unregistered - Dusty 08.21.2005 18:58 This is really strange. Update 19: See pic number 4. A T-shirt, printed at the time of the Game Convention of Leipzig. The rabbit is the exact same as on the Origen site?!? Unregistered - Derek Thompson 08.21.2005 18:59 Shut up with thinking that www.launch360.org is official, i really don't think that an official microsoft site would have google ads for a free xbox360 omfg you guys are morons. Unregistered - Flying Muskrat 08.21.2005 19:05 We aren't talking about launch360.org. This is a different official MS viral marketing campaign. So be quiet Unregistered - haloman 08.21.2005 19:10 Where do I find pic 4? Unregistered - duo 08.21.2005 19:13 Wow, it really is the same rabbit. You can find pic 4 for at the end of this article, or right over comment number 1. Unregistered - that guy 08.21.2005 19:15 that's the same rabbit. what is that other figure on the shirt? Dusty, is there a source for the pic i.e. linky? Unregistered - Derek Thompson 08.21.2005 19:15 i know that but some ppl were talking about www.launch360.org so i just had to tell them to stfu Unregistered - lostally 08.21.2005 19:21 http://www.havamedia.net/CGR/3/M/HAVABlog/4/351_620.jpg Unregistered - Dusty 08.21.2005 19:23 http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/urltrurl?lp=fr_en&trurl=http%3a%2f%2fwww.xbox-attitude.com%2fnews-affichage.php%3fid%3d9275tt%3durl#null Unregistered - Robbert 08.21.2005 19:26 This is screwed up i dont know what it means but i think that the rabbit signifies the next Matrix Game and the tree says that its going to be in japan first Unregistered - Derek Thompson 08.21.2005 19:34 I'm not seeing that, because i don't think there would be that much hype over a matrix game. but at least your taking a shot at it Unregistered - seep 08.21.2005 19:48 where the hell can you see master chief and the fable guy. think you guys need to take a break go get some sleep and try again tommorow. Unregistered - seep 08.21.2005 19:50 and the writing in the leaves says origen. Unregistered - ima loser69 08.21.2005 20:02 when you zoom in on the tree is does not say anything like in pic 3..???!!??? Unregistered - Derek Thompson 08.21.2005 20:02 zoom in on the trunk of the tree 2 times and look and you can just barely make them out, master chief is higher and a lil left of the fable guy and the fable guy is like right in the bottom middle Unregistered - haloman 08.21.2005 20:06 See this alternate pic: www.origenxbox360.com/images/countdown/countdown.jpg Unregistered - thedagger 08.21.2005 20:13 i see where you are gettin the matrix idea from. in the first matrix movie, didnt the guy follow the rabbit in the beggining. this could mean the xbox 360 will take us to a whole new side of gaming that we have never seen before. Kinda like the alice in wonderland idea. just a wild guess.... Unregistered - thedagger 08.21.2005 20:16 here we sit all broken harted, tryed to S#!t but only farted... Unregistered - ima loser69 08.21.2005 20:17 good point hargett i see what u meen about the matrix movie.and i see the face in the trunk of the tree..=) Unregistered - ima loser69 08.21.2005 20:18 i am gay no one listin to me. that is all peace be with you. Unregistered - Flying Muskrat 08.21.2005 20:18 The Matrix also took that from Alice in Wonderland. So far, that's what the site seems to be playing off of. There is a rabbit, tree, and the word "Origen" sitting in the tree (like the Cheshire Cat). I doubt it has anything to do with the matrix Unregistered - thedagger 08.21.2005 20:22 omfg loser is the man i wish i was as kool as him hes such a smart person! im just dumb and gay and have no clue what im talkin about because i am a dinosour with braces.i dont no wat i ment about the matrix thing because im a queer. im a big gay yankee queer!!! Unregistered - ima loser69 08.21.2005 20:24 it does seem to have a connection with alice and wonderland thingy. but im still wondering wat? Unregistered - ima loser69 08.21.2005 20:25 you know, i really look like a hairy gorrilla, with glasses, the dagger is really cool, he is also good at basketball and he could beat me any day. i am short and very weird. rachel wouldnt even go out with me. that is sad. i like to go over to strange and fat peoples house and spend the night and suck my big toe. Unregistered - ima loser69 08.21.2005 20:25 you know, i really look like a hairy gorrilla, with glasses, the dagger is really cool, he is also good at basketball and he could beat me any day. i am short and very weird. rachel wouldnt even go out with me. that is sad. i like to go over to strange and fat peoples house and spend the night and suck my big toe. Unregistered - ima loser69 08.21.2005 20:30 wat is up with the leaf or watever it is between the rabbit and the tree. my friend said he thought all of the leafs would fall off. i thought it sounded like a good guess but so far nuthin. Unregistered - Dusty 08.21.2005 20:32 Guys the pic I just added http://www.havamedia.net/CGR/3/M/HAVABlog/4/351_621.jpg , As we know it says Origen in the leafs, but interesting bit is the placement of the writing. It is about the same as the cat in Alice. Both the cat and the writing can become invisible too. Unregistered - ima loser69 08.21.2005 20:33 any1 have a guess wat it could b? Unregistered - ima loser69 08.21.2005 20:36 does the word in the tree disappear like the cat?or wat are you gittin at about the cat disappearing.?!? Unregistered - thedagger 08.21.2005 21:01 As some one stated earlier, there is somethin on the ground between the tree and the rabbit, it looks like rabbit crap or a leaf. does anyone have a guess of what it may be and why iy might be there? Unregistered - seep 08.21.2005 21:30 it's when M$ announce they are calling it a day cos they fucked this whole launch up with the HDD fiasco. R.I.P. M$ Unregistered - XBOX fan 08.21.2005 21:57 Its a secret code with the cure for cancer!! Unregistered - JA1230 08.21.2005 22:11 "J Allard (Expert): Q: When can we expect an official release date to be announced? A: this is our last question we are able to take for the chat and then i have one thing i want you guys to know after. answer in short is: stay tuned. just like all of you talking about the system around the clock we are working around the clock to finish the system and the games. we will have more announcments soon." maybe is true bout the japanese rerlease like the MS guy said before Unregistered - GOD 08.21.2005 23:49 WHY YOU INSIGNIFCANT PILE OF SHITBAGS I SHALL SMITE THEE WITH MY SUPERIOR INTELECT, FEAST AT THE TABLE OF OPPURTUNITY BEFORE I RID THE WORLD OF YOU ALL. Unregistered - Heyyu 08.22.2005 01:51 Sounds like ORIGEN is short for Oriental Generation... If you typr in the URL origenxbox360.org GOOGLE opens up with a key word search for "Oriental Generation" Go figure. Unregistered - Audio 08.22.2005 02:06 ALICE IN WONDERLAND, WHAT KIND OF LOSER WOULD YOU ALICE IN WONDERLAND IN A REFERENCE TO THE "NEXT BIG THING IN ENTERTAINMENT" COME ON GUYS, GET A LIFE. Unregistered - Audio 08.22.2005 02:12 The site is indeed registered by microsoft:http://www.checkdomain.com/cgi-bin/checkdomain.pl?domain=www.origenxbox360.com Unregistered - anyone 08.22.2005 02:16 can anyone put a picture of the outline of master chief i cant seem to make it out Unregistered - alboberries 08.22.2005 02:58 I was looking at the page source for Ourcolony website and found this something. A little way down, it says, "You are the source, create." What does that mean? Unregistered - alboberries 08.22.2005 03:04 Besides the fact that the top of the bush looks like master chief's head, i saw something else. On the left side of the bush, there is a gaping whole in what looks like the shape of a mouth, and above it looks like 2 eyes and a nose. Another cheshire cat? Unregistered - The Gamem8ker 08.22.2005 04:09 *Envy the next Thunderstorm* Unregistered - 08.22.2005 04:12 what i've noticed is that the tree isn't in the ground as the roots are exposed it's just sitting there - dead Unregistered - mark 08.22.2005 04:13 why is there * after E* and then it say * (important) Unregistered - the_colony_beckonsCReate 08.22.2005 04:16 ****0*0000**1101*00*0111010110****0110***10110110**10*011* 10001*1**11*1*0000*10*0*0*10*0*1*0* Unregistered - The Gamem8ker 08.22.2005 04:19 *Roses are red, Violets are blue, Rabbits are green, the rest is for you* Unregistered - Citruso 08.22.2005 05:06 There will be a game called Piñata. It will be free on the Xbox 360 Hard Drive. You put seeds in a virtual garden and water them and watch them grow. The more games you buy the bigger your garden gets. Nice idea I think it was SHIGERU MIYAMOTO who came up with the idea for the game cube but didn't bother to implement it as he thought it would be a waste of time. Unregistered - Wes 08.22.2005 05:25 I think we're looking too far into the 'pictures in the stump' thing, as MS would have too much difficulty finding a tre with two MS games on it. The odds of such a tree existing is very small. Unregistered - Braynbasher 08.22.2005 06:08 I'm I the only one who still hopes that the big Secret is that Nintendo and Microsoft are combining powers. Unregistered - ulph 08.22.2005 06:51 Why are you discussing things that are not there??? 1. The text in the leaves. FAKE! 2. Masterchief and fable guy in the tree. NOT THERE! Are you people not looking at the real page, if I want I could do a printscreen and insert whatever I want to the pic too. Unregistered - ulph 08.22.2005 06:54 Ok, saw that the text in the tree was found on another pic on the site but... How can you see masterchief? Are you doin drugs? Unregistered - Wes 08.22.2005 06:55 ulph i agree.. i cant see the master chief or the fable guy, which is why i dont think ts there, and discussing it isnt required. Unregistered - Anonymous tipster 08.22.2005 07:05 In the login screen enter @ the following data: user name: partner password: xb0xr0ck$ ;) Unregistered - Anonymous tipster 08.22.2005 07:07 just realised it has been poster soz Unregistered - wincas 08.22.2005 08:07 i can't enter this site: https://www.origenxbox.com/default.asp What happen? Unregistered - gammaman 08.22.2005 08:25 just a thought, but if you follow the left side of the trunk straight up their seems to be a group of four small leaves in a space by themselves, if you zoom in they seem to be a slightly different color, any thoughts? Unregistered - ima loser69 08.22.2005 08:28 if u zoom in 2 times on the bottom of the tree trunk there seems to be a face.but im still not sure about who it is or if its anybody. Unregistered - mark 08.22.2005 08:35 i can see it too looks like a woman any female staring roles in games. how about the one in perfect dark zero Unregistered - ima loser69 08.22.2005 08:54 good guess maybe its true... Unregistered - gammaman 08.22.2005 08:58 from the middle of the base of 2x zoom just go up about an inch and you see the bottom of a chin right? Unregistered - gammaman 08.22.2005 09:04 look carefully in between the two branches on the left side of the tree and you will see the rabbit in a lying position I can clearly see the two long ears, the curved backside, and a visible tail, does anyone else see this? remember look hard at the white space, it is there. Unregistered - mark 08.22.2005 09:09 i can sort of see it i dont find it that clear though but their is a shape their Unregistered - ima loser69 08.22.2005 09:14 i can kind of se wat u are looking at but... im not 100% sure about the whole rabbit thing. Unregistered - ima loser69 08.22.2005 09:15 im on marks side on this 1 Unregistered - mark 08.22.2005 09:18 the female face at the base of the tree also looks like a character in the final fantasy game coming out on the 360. she comes from a group called hume. i may be paranoid but it may be true whos to say im or anyone else is wrong when nobody knows themseles apart from microsoft and the creaters of the site of course Unregistered - littlefarny 08.22.2005 09:19 I mis-typed it, and got origin360.com, and it is registered by a company called AKQA, who do the advertising for Forza and specialise in Viral and Advergaming. www.akqa.com Unregistered - gammaman 08.22.2005 09:20 speaking of final fantasy, the women slightly looks like yunaleska. Unregistered - ima loser69 08.22.2005 09:24 i see wat u meen about that no1 can say any1 is wrong because no1 knows wat it is, or wat it meens.but some of this stuff people say has nuthin to do with anything, and is completly off topic... Unregistered - mark 08.22.2005 09:29 true if it is off topic but all ideas are worthy of expressing Unregistered - ima loser69 08.22.2005 09:35 all i can say is we are goin to have to wait 36 days then see what happens... and until then we can all jus sit here and talk about wat we noticed in the picture,which honestly gets us no where.so rather than playin hero and figure this out y cant we just wait 36 days... Unregistered - Tjop21 08.22.2005 09:40 It looks like a big monky too me (The top of the try mouth and eye) And i can see the face now too and yes it looks like the fable guy Unregistered - Tjop21 08.22.2005 09:43 I mean tree not try Unregistered - ima loser69 08.22.2005 09:44 i see wat u meen but wat would a monkey have to do with anything...this isnt donkey kong. Unregistered - Loser 08.22.2005 09:47 Dont you guys think that you spend too much time on this? Just wait and see - and do something else meanwhile. Unregistered - ima loser69 08.22.2005 09:52 losers got the point of wat i ment in comment 650 and god is funny whens hes mad Unregistered - Annonymous 08.22.2005 10:01 funny. . . coming from a guy called 'im a loser'. lol Unregistered - mark 08.22.2005 11:06 im a loser is right we wont find out till the countdown is at 0 and i think weve pointed everything out so we are just going to have to wait. unless the ms guy returns. Unregistered - Pelle Jöns 08.22.2005 11:23 The word Origen = unscrabbled as earlier post to region , my fast conclusion the xbox360 games will be region free. That was easy.... :-) *never fail, just try again* Unregistered - king 08.22.2005 11:25 shenmue is the name of a tree so perhaps its a new shenmue game, at least i hope neway!! Unregistered - gammaman 08.22.2005 11:37 this is possible since shenmue online was never released in america, and it was already announced that shenmue 3 was in the works Unregistered - king 08.22.2005 11:48 where did u hear that from? i heard the developers are on board for 360 (well not sure bou yu suzuki) but no official statement about shenmue 3 being in the works. if it is shenmue 3, im goin crazy cuz ive waited years to see what happens next. if its shenmue online, i think thatd be pretty shitty. Unregistered - lil' gringo 08.22.2005 11:57 Hey if you zoom in 4 times and look really closely you might see Josef Stalin somewhere there, oh no wait, i mean mona lisa, or perhaps crocodile dundee? Unregistered - Kyle 08.22.2005 12:22 Doesn't the n in the word in the tree look like a snake. Unregistered - ima loser69 08.22.2005 12:30 TRYING IS THE FIRST STEP TOWARDS FAILURE!!! Unregistered - GOD 08.22.2005 12:35 HEY PARIS HILTON IS IN THE TREE CAN YOU SEE IT.. CAN YOU!!! I CAN BECAUSE I AM OF SUPERIOR BREEDING. ANYWAY ENOUGH BULLSHIT DO YOU WANT ME TO TELL YOU FUCKTARDS WHAT WILL HAPPEN WHEN THE COUNTER REACHES ZERO.. WELL DO YOU. HERE'S WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, ALL YOU SINNERS ARE GOING TO BURN IN HELL YOU VILE PIECES OF DOG SHIT!!!! REPENT REPENT! Unregistered - MS 08.22.2005 12:35 "nothing in the leafs, nothing in the trunk, and nothing in the floor.... but" "with this new hardware we would be able to do a next generation graphics including the vital SHADOWS and even new types of elements such as...." UT. Patience is what you need at this time of the year.NG Unregistered - GOD 08.22.2005 12:38 DO NOT BELIEVE HIM FOR HE IS THE DEVIL LOOK AT HIS POST NUMBER 666 TIS SATAN'S WORK!!!!! Unregistered - IMA LOSER69 08.22.2005 12:43 god shut the hell up you make no sense and if u dont have a comment worth reading then dont comment.and if u really was god you would not curse so much so plz keep your dumb ass remarks to yourself... Unregistered - Dusty 08.22.2005 12:46 Now we have all heard the story about Bill being Satan, but damn MS guy you are not exactly helping good old Bill out with his reputation by posting on that number he he J/K :) Ohh and Thanks for the clue :) Unregistered - ima loser69 08.22.2005 12:53 wtf does that meen??!!?? Unregistered - seep 08.22.2005 12:57 loser69 what does what mean? Unregistered - Kilik 08.22.2005 14:15 This is a strange Idea but, what if the mysterious clock is counting down to the release to xbox's secret handheld gameing device. Strange Idea but you never know what microsoft has up their sleeve. Unregistered - Patrick 08.22.2005 14:33 even new types of elements such as...." Wind, rain, dust, ?? hmm.. And leafs.. Unregistered - KAMAMAZY 08.22.2005 15:09 go to 360updates.com and forums and suppose gamestop says the xbox comes with wireless adapter. maybne thats the secret Unregistered - Kimbie 08.22.2005 15:19 My mate came up with this meaning for it: origen n : Greek philosopher and theologian who reinterpreted Christian doctrine through the philosophy of Neoplatonism; his work was later condemned as unorthodox MS has in the past tried to buy out Nintendo i belive, and the Revolution console is a bit crap in terms of spec but it does use the same cpu and gpu as the xbox, perhaps it is something that the Revolution games will run onthe 360 or perhaps MS is buying nintendo and release a competitor to the PSP?? Might not make much sense but its an idea after all Kimbie Unregistered - doesitmatterwhatmynameis 08.22.2005 15:34 i think it could be a hand held device. they could call it the xbp ( xbox portable ) or the xbox 180. it is a long shot but good thinking. Unregistered - Wes2 08.22.2005 15:37 I dont know if anybody buys stuff off play.com but at one point several xbox 360 games were due to be released on sept 27! coincidence? I don't think so Unregistered - seep 08.22.2005 15:55 yo homies they have the release date for the console and the games for the 29/11/05 in the uk. console = £279.99 games = £39.99. hell yeah. Unregistered - Wes 08.22.2005 16:06 Woo! There's a Wes2! I've ot no more ideas at the moment, but i just thought i'd mention it was cool to put the 2 after your name! Unregistered - seep 08.22.2005 16:11 i dont know if anyone else has noticed this but if you put you time piece up to the screen with the countdown in the background it is out of sync, i thought this could just be my watch but i tried it with the missus' aswell and it was the same..? Unregistered - thedagger 08.22.2005 16:48 Origen means original or where it all started, it could be like many people say, they will realease the 360 in Japan first since it all started in Japan. OR like someone said earlier, microsoft could buy out nintendo, or the two (xbox and revolution) merge. If you think back it sort-of all started with Nintindo, it is just a wild guess... The Dagger Unregistered - Braynbasher 08.22.2005 17:07 I Really hope that it's Nintendo and Microsoft combining Forces Image if you will Zelda 360. A Man can dream can he? Unregistered - GOD 08.22.2005 17:27 SEEP.. YOU ARE CORRECT MY CHILD THE TIMER SEEMS TO BE OUT OF SYNC WITH YOUR EARTHLY TIME PIECE WELL SPOTTED. I HAVE INFORMED THE GUARDS AT THE PEARLY GATES TO GRANT YOU ACCESS ONCE YOU VACATE YOUR RANCID HUMAN BODY. Unregistered - rob 08.22.2005 17:30 theres a new clue. here it is: "nothing in the leafs, nothing in the trunk, and nothing in the floor.... but" "with this new hardware we would be able to do a next generation graphics including the vital SHADOWS and even new types of elements such as...." UT. Patience is what you need at this time of the year.NG Unregistered - Audio 08.22.2005 17:30 The time has come when microsoft has finnaly decided to take over the world, and they plan to begin the revolt when that timer hits zero. But seriously how about we keep our thoughts to our selfs or at least keep them hidden, so we dont accidentally give away the suprise. And am I the only one that noticed, that in all ms's clues, there is a word CAPATILIZED. Unregistered - mian 08.22.2005 17:51 ORIental GENeration www.origenxbox360.org Unregistered - MS 08.22.2005 17:58 The new hardware will take you places unlike anything you can imagine.The clue is deep in the thing you notice first on the page.Use your HEAD to figure out this clue.The CLOCK is ticking. NG Unregistered - Shabazz 08.22.2005 18:09 Roots are deep within the tree (first thing you see). Unregistered - Shabazz 08.22.2005 18:12 What does NG stand for? Unregistered - IMA LOSER69 08.22.2005 18:13 the first thing i look at when i see the site is the tree any1 else? Unregistered - Braynbasher 08.22.2005 18:14 Everything he said today that's in CAPS is there on the website. But what is UT? I'm also starting to think this Website is in on it. Unregistered - ima loser69 08.22.2005 18:15 good point, if the first thing we look at is the tree then wat does HEAD mean? Unregistered - pudd 08.22.2005 18:18 i set my clock to the time it was counting to and now whenever i go back it is always all zeros. weird huh? Unregistered - pudd 08.22.2005 18:21 and i even set my time back to normal with the microsoft sync. i just dont get this part. Unregistered - ima loser69 08.22.2005 18:25 this is a very wierd clue i dont see where hes goin with this 1 Unregistered - Dusty 08.22.2005 18:28 I had forgot about this - don't know if it really helps though..."MATSUI-SAN ALSO HINTED THAT THE XBOX 360 HAD SOME SECRET FUNCTIONS WHICH WERE CURRENTLY UNKNOWN AT THIS TIME AND WOULD BE REVEALED ONE YEAR INTO MARKET BY A LIVE UPDATE." Source: CVG Unregistered - pudd 08.22.2005 18:30 If what dusty said is true (and it probably is) someone will be able to hack a 360 and find it eventually. oh and forget what i said earlier i had the wrong date when i synchronized with microsoft. sorry. Unregistered - thedagger 08.22.2005 18:42 this is realy gettin gay, it was interesting but now it is getting to where ppl are getting WAY off topic and we have people saying that they are "MS" and they are not,uhhucaimaloser69uchum, excuse me i had to cough. I will go find another website that talks about the same websight but with HONEST people. My gosh you have ran one of the only peaple off that had any sense(wes)... I will come back when this websight STOPS BEING GAY!!!!!! that is all, peace be with you... The Dagger has left the building. Unregistered - ima loser69 08.22.2005 18:47 hehe:) Unregistered - ima loser69 08.22.2005 18:48 hehe:) Unregistered - Dusty 08.22.2005 18:59 Don't let the GAY Door hit your ASS on the way out! :) Sorry I just couldn't keep that one back. Anyway, he is right that we probably can't trust any clues at all anymore. But seriously anyone getting upset over this is taking things abit too seriously, it's just for fun. And if we are completely off track, so what? :) Unregistered - Shabazz 08.22.2005 19:12 Is it possible that they have found a way to implement "HD-BURN" technology into a DVD? If so, one could double a DVD to be 18 gigs. Huh? Look at this press release I found on the web. Pay close attention to the last sentence of this paragraph. SANYO Electric Co., Ltd. has developed the high density recording technology "HD-BURN" which doubles the recording capacity to (1.4GB) on conventional CD-Rmedia (700MB). "HD-BURN" will be sequentially employed for our Super Combination Drives. In addition , SANYO has formulated the standard recording format and started product licensing. CD-R media is rapidly becoming popular because of its reasonable price and superior compatibility, and used by a wide range of users. Currently , recording of large volumes of data such as video are increasing, expanding the popularity of DVD media (4.7GB).Theneed for intermediate range capacity between CD-R and DVD is steadily increasing as users demand an easy to use and affordable type of large volume media. "HD-BURN" technology meets these needs and realizes the recording of large volume data at a moderate price. A recorded disc by "HD-BURN" technology is compatible with a DVD player, and allows, the player to read the disc with some modification of firmware. Unregistered - gamewinner779 08.22.2005 19:17 dustys right any1 who gets upset over this is a little too obsesive. so dagger calm down damn!!! no1 is really goin to know until the timer reaches 0. this is still fun... Unregistered - Derek Thompson 08.22.2005 19:27 I know what it is, it is a bad site and when the clock strikes 0 and you are all watching you are going to get a major trogan and your comp is gonna die muahahahahhahahaha, no really i have no clue lol Unregistered - Dusty 08.22.2005 19:44 has updated his blog http://ourcolony.blogspot.com/2005/08/whew.html Unregistered - Patrick 08.22.2005 19:47 I honestly think everyone is trying to make to much of this. First off, It cant be that 360 is going to HD-DVD for several reasons. 1. Microsoft didnt create the HD-DVD technology and so they cant put it in their systems without paying Toshiba royalties which would raise the price which was already officially given. 2. That would not be something Microsoft would want to keep hidden since it would make more people want to pre order it. 3. Microsoft has already handed out the dev kits for it without HD-DVD and its too late to turn it around now. 4. Microsoft wont put itself at risk on a battle that Toshiba is already losing. Dont believe me, Read for Yourself that The only HD-DVD player that will come out this year is Made by TOSHIBA and it will cost around $1000. Not to mention the only backers of HD-dvd is 45% of the movie studios like Paramont and Warner Brothers (which isnt having any movies coming out unitl next year,giving them time to change easily to Blu-ray) and Universal movies, Which had boasted it would bring out alot of movies in hd-dvd only to scale it way back to about 12 this year. (wow) Now Look at what Blu-ray is doing, They have EVERY MAJOR electronic company (outside of Toshiba) backing blu-ray and most on the Board of Directors. They also have the other 50% or so of the movie studios like SONY and ScreenGems, MGM, Twentieth Century Fox, Walt Disney pictures and Television, Beuna Vista, Lions Gate and there may be others. They also have Universal Music group(world leading music company)and Sony BGM music supporting them. Just go to www.blu-raydisc.com and look at the long line of companies that is supporting them,including TDK wich has Created a 100 Gb blu-ray disc that HD-DVD cant touch. Now alot of yall are saying "oh this must be a Sony fan", But you know what. I am. Actually I am both. I have an xbox and believe in anything Microsoft puts out. But I also want to best and in the War between Blu-ray and HD-DVD, Blu-ray is the Best. It Holds alot more data and will be around the same price despite what HD-dvd backers try to say. All these HUGE companies arent stupid and wouldnt back something they thought may not sell due to higher cost. So Microsoft wont say definalty they are going HD-DVD because they can always switch when HD-dvd doesnt make it. So forget that notion. Blu-ray will win, and any Smart person should want it to, cause otherwise you will be asking for the second best and a limited future for that technology. Sony is already testing a 200 Gb blu-ray disc. and I can hear alot of you now, "thats just wasted space" and for some things thats true. But for a whole lot of other reasons its not. It would be nice to have a movie like "Lord of the Rings" trilogy all on one disc with all the extras so I can seamlessly watch the whole movie straight through, or even all six Star Wars which wouldnt be sealess due to time periods but could still be all on one Blu-ray disc with all the extras. ALL that said.. this better be something bigger than HD-dvd or alot of people will be ticked. Hd-dvd just isnt that big of a deal. Just like Sony including Blu-ray, its a nice extra but not many people are going to run home and throw in a blu-ray movie before playing a Game on it.. I mean really... Unregistered - Shabazz 08.22.2005 19:52 highlight the text for the hidden words. Unregistered - anonymous 08.22.2005 19:57 Whew Where has the time gone? I certainly don't know. I'm not coming back yet But I have been recruited to join another project, if project is the right word? My time is not now but it may be soon. Personally, I'd like to thank those of you who said "hi" last week, I was wearing a fairly easy to spot hat if you were looking... "hi" was a nice break from the "hallo" Unregistered - Zach 08.22.2005 20:07 Patrick... Whatever the hell you said was completley wrong. Of course Microsoft would have to pay Toshiba for the drives, they have to pay for the current DVD drives...what is your point? And they have had kits out before they told us what was inside them. Unregistered - PublicDeviance 08.22.2005 20:09 Ok, I think the nail is hit on the head about the big announcement for japan. However, as for some smaller announcements that may concern us. Possibly a big improvement on realism with shadows, rain, fog, and other elemental things. If not, maybe atleast with the shadows. Obviously I mean more in depth shadows. Perhaps radiosity (how colors of objects reflect onto objects around them)? Im really guessing here but it is the first thought that sprung to mind. Even if I am wrong, maybe it will help spark some other ideas you guys may have. - p.s.- atleast we have this to keep us focused which is only 35 days away instead of the 2 1/2 months we were counting down to for the release of the xbox360. Chris Unregistered - roman 08.22.2005 20:10 if you cut down the tree and look at it from above what do you see... no more shadow Unregistered - Patrick 08.22.2005 20:15 Sorry Zach, Did not Realize you couldnt read any more than 2 lines at a time. Next time I will try to add Pictures for you. My point is, that Microsoft will have to add technology, which isnt free to do. Sony can do it cheaper with blu-ray since they own it. Microsoft cant.. So again you can rule that out for a 360 release at the start. They are waiting to see if HD-DVD actually gets anywhere first. Hey Zach, you want that written on your third grade level or you think you got it? Unregistered - roman 08.22.2005 20:18 it is all in the shadow, the shadow isnt right, he doesnt seem to match the size of the tree Unregistered - redstorm 08.22.2005 20:21 and at the very bottom right of the tree there's no shadow behind it Unregistered - roman 08.22.2005 20:21 its one big consperacy.. microsoft, the goverment and aliens Unregistered - roman 08.22.2005 20:22 im going to bed.. i must sleep on this one Unregistered - GOD 08.22.2005 20:30 THAT IS NOT AN EARTHLY RABBIT.. FOR IT HAS NO TAIL WHAT THE!!! ANYWAYS YOU ARE ALL LOOKING TOO HARD, TAKE A STEP BACKWARDS AND READ THE CLUES AGAIN, YOU WILL FIND THE ANSWER YOU SEEK. Unregistered - ima loser69 08.22.2005 20:31 zach like i said b4 you cant say any1 is wrong because no1 knows really wat it is,so jus shut up with sayin people are wrong all coments are worth reading(except for the ones that arent) Unregistered - doesitmatterwhatmynameis 08.22.2005 20:34 ill be a monkeys uncle, your right! The shadow does not match the tree. I wonder why???? Unregistered - redstorm 08.22.2005 20:37 Whats also strange is the tree trunk seems to reflect at the base of the shadow, so maybe the shadow is water? or not... Unregistered - jdogg 08.22.2005 20:48 I believe the answer lies inside your xbox you own now. Unregistered - Zach 08.22.2005 21:05 Patrick..."Sorry Zach, Did not Realize you couldnt read any more than 2 lines at a time. Next time I will try to add Pictures for you. My point is, that Microsoft will have to add technology, which isnt free to do. Sony can do it cheaper with blu-ray since they own it. Microsoft cant.. So again you can rule that out for a 360 release at the start. They are waiting to see if HD-DVD actually gets anywhere first. Hey Zach, you want that written on your third grade level or you think you got it?" Very mature, Patrick. I do understand your point, though. Unregistered - John 08.22.2005 21:13 If you look at around he middle of the trunk, theres a face with a big nose, two eyes and a smiling mouth. Its looking to the left, like its imagining,also part of the tree that comes up from the roots. It looks like hes resting his head on his hand. Unregistered - redstorm 08.22.2005 21:24 I know this is irrelevent but i did a search on green rabbit and found that some french scientists had genetically engineered an albino rabbit to glow green under uv light. Poor rabbit. Unregistered - Red 08.22.2005 21:28 its more of a GUT feeling than anything else, but could this be not so much a countdown as much a timer. When I say that I mean that if it was indeed just a simple countdown, why provide clues as to solve the puzzle.It would seem that the incentive would be to solve it before the clock ends,which ofcourse implies some sort of a competition or perhaps test.What then could be the prize except for maybe a free 360 or atleast an exclusive gift from MS themselves.Hopefully I explained that correctly. Because as you know there is always a motive for doing something like this and while advertising could be the sole answer, that would'nt require the leaving of clues. Unregistered - Hunter 08.22.2005 21:39 The site is down... Unregistered - Kirakid 08.22.2005 21:40 There is totally a face in that tree... Just look at it. Unregistered - PsychoMantis 08.22.2005 21:47 In one of the clues it says "When you didn't capture the attention of someone in the past, next time in the future, do it bigger and smarter, then they will put attention on what you are trying to offer" J.A. I think he is reffering to how Japan didint care much about the xbox, and how MS wants to get there full attention on the 360. "People rising up while the sun is still shinning, on 9 something big is going the happen and you will be surprised" Again another reference to Japan. This definitely has somthing to do with Japan. Sorry if this is old. Unregistered - Derek Thompson 08.22.2005 21:53 i went through all the clues and got out the words that were in all caps(this does not include multiple occurances). i don't know if it will help out with anything i just felt like doing it to see if anybody could scramble them into something or anything like that. CENTER UT SHADOWS BIG TIME NG HD RINGS p.s. these are all of them that i have seen, there may be a clue or 2 that i didn't see so look ok Unregistered - Patrick 08.22.2005 21:53 First off, sorry for the insult Zach. Now, I thought like alot of you that there was something behind the rabbit, but if you will look at it. I believe its actually supposed to be a sign of a rabbit and the thing behind it is the wooden stake that is bolted to it which if what the 2 little round dots are you see on the rabbit. and the reason they are out of line is because the rabbit is also not staked down straight. yeah.. its just a sign staked in the ground in from of the tree... wow.. now what would that mean? .......I got nothin... anybody else see it like I do? Unregistered - Derek Thompson 08.22.2005 21:56 CENTER UT SHADOWS BIG TIME NG HD RINGS HEAD CLOCK....those are the words that i know of Unregistered - Derek Thompson 08.22.2005 21:58 yes we have discovered that already but still have no idea what it means Unregistered - Derek Thompson 08.22.2005 21:59 i just realised this and don't know if anyone else has or not but the shadow behind the tree. look at it and you will see that half of it is darker then the other half. Unregistered - Patrick 08.22.2005 22:04 Maybe it isnt a shadow, but water... I mean... its bigger than the tree on both sides and darker right in front of the tree as if reflecking the tree trunk. a shadow wouldnt do that..only a reflection would. Unregistered - Derek Thompson 08.22.2005 22:07 true i forgot someone said something about that up higher, i also noticed a little just slightly off color line in the lighter shadow/water whatever but it's in between the tree and bunny and it is just a little line maybe a branch i'm not sure Unregistered - patrick 08.22.2005 22:07 If you have a laptop or lcd screen, tilt the screen back and look at it and you will see what I mean by it looks like water Unregistered - jdogg 08.22.2005 22:07 I have to know the true answer............ Unregistered - The man 08.22.2005 22:08 Mabe M$ is showing off how real they can make the game enviorments look and mabe that tree is really Xbox 360 graphics that would be cool. Unregistered - Patrick 08.22.2005 22:10 Yeah I see the line, and to little darker dots side by side right under it. What is that? Unregistered - Patrick 08.22.2005 22:10 Sorry, not to, but Two little darker dots Unregistered - Derek Thompson 08.22.2005 22:10 you never know but still what would the timer be for, and i wouldn't doubt it but if the 360 is capable of that kinda graphics but not that particular one but never know. Unregistered - Patrick 08.22.2005 22:11 I hear ya crazy, its going to drive alot of us crazy till we find out. Unregistered - Derek Thompson 08.22.2005 22:15 yes i know expeciouly with school goin on i mean c'mon i go to school and get back on here and i have to read up to 150 comments damnit it's gotta stop we gotta know the truth before it kills us all lol aaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhh.....ok i think i'm good but not for long damn u microsoft and your tricksy little minds. Unregistered - jdogg 08.22.2005 22:15 who knows the real answer? Unregistered - Patrick 08.22.2005 22:17 Hey, I am sure this is way off, but the water or shadow can also look like a heat reflection, kind of like what happens when your driving on a hot day. You know how it looks like water on the road but it really isnt? Unregistered - Derek Thompson 08.22.2005 22:17 microsoft so i say what we do is go to bill gates' house or j. allard's and we start a protest right in front of their houses(both would make it better) untill we get the truth....who's with me?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!? Unregistered - jdogg 08.22.2005 22:19 Does this have anything to do with why they would release a $299.00 core system that nobody will get????? Unregistered - Patrick 08.22.2005 22:22 Yeah... I'll go make some picket signs... well show them. Mess with our minds will they? lol.... I will probably dream about some stinkin wooden rabbit and funky lookin tree tonight..man I hope not..lol Unregistered - jdogg 08.22.2005 22:22 why is this machine called a 360???? what significance does this tree and rabbit have to the origin? Unregistered - jdogg 08.22.2005 22:25 Somebody is trying to create unwanted drama to lure us into buying their kickass system.....The Matrix had some cool dvd extras with a rabbit as well...does anybody know where you can buy a 360 at midnight upon launch??? Unregistered - Derek Thompson 08.22.2005 22:26 it is called a 360 because of there slogan thing whatever which is "we want you to be in the center of the gaming expierence" something like that p.s ok we attack at midnight on the 25th Unregistered - Patrick 08.22.2005 22:32 Wow, My wife just came up with the answer. I was telling her about it and asking her why a rabbit sign and she smiled and said " a hopping good time" lol shes a genious... I'll have to slap her in the back of the head later. Unregistered - jdogg 08.22.2005 22:37 i say this is all bogus...but we continue to try and decifer it anyhow...lol Unregistered - Daniel Horton 08.22.2005 22:49 HEYYYYYY EVERYONE! I figured it out!!!!! Microsoft is going to buy out NINTENDO!!!! 2 systems, an universe to explore. Circles = Revolution aka nintendo's new system. Why else would nintendo "postpone" making the games like Zelda. haha! How else would they get japanese game developers! They are joining forces. For sure! EA's CEO claimed that Microsoft would more than likely buy out Nintendo with the next 5 years. Unregistered - The Question 08.22.2005 23:01 I believe that your are right about the Nintendo thing but I think it will be ONE System not 2 and that the Xbox 360 controller will be Nintendo's Creation we haven't seen it yet. Unregistered - Josh 08.22.2005 23:04 that would be cool, but they have advertised the 360controller a ton but nothing on nintendos, so if anything, it will be the 360 controller Unregistered - yoyo 08.22.2005 23:05 M$ said that the xbox 360 revoles around the player like a circle they're not buying out nintendo Unregistered - Patrick 08.22.2005 23:05 I may stand corrected, maybe.... well see. I just pulled this off another sight... but doesnt sound right, why sell one system to only play dvds and only dvd games and one that will play hd-dvd and hd-dvd games doesnt make since, and its alot of work for game devopers. Your more limited with dvd than hd-dvd. bigger games with bigger graphics and gamers that bought the core system would be screwed. Nope... it just wouldnt make since."On November 25th the Xbox 360 will be upgraded to HD-DVD in the Premium Version only. This can easily be seen by the different drives in the core system and the premium system. The Core System will be released a few weeks earlier than the HD-DVD premium version. HD-DVD version comes out November 25th." Unregistered - Josh 08.22.2005 23:07 i still hope it comes out 1st or 4th Unregistered - Patrick 08.22.2005 23:11 on the same sight they put a disclaimer saying it could be untrue and no offical word yet... I hope for all our sakes its not.. other wise any of us that tries to buy movies for the next year or so will have to wonder which to buy, blu-ray or HD-DVD. not to mention all those unfortunate people that buy the core system... Well see. Unregistered - Patrick 08.22.2005 23:21 Also, if they were making it hd-dvd, someone would be saying it for sure due to the fact that it would have to be in production right now... and new dev kits would be sent to support it....hum.... I really dont think so. Thats a selling point they cant afford to wait to tell. Especially since that would make Sony speed things along to bring out PS3 sooner with Blu-ray... due to the fact they have more invested in blu-ray being the standard than microsoft does with hd-dvd. I really dont think sony could afford to wait if that was the case... Unregistered - Patrick 08.22.2005 23:25 Course, that could be a reason to wait to tell it, so Sont wouldnt have time to respond..but keeping that a secret would be next to imposible...and Sony would for sure no it..... I dont know... ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh what does it all mean? Unregistered - unknown 08.22.2005 23:25 Well theres really no reason to have a blu-ray or hd-dvd drive for playing games, the only reason would be to watch movies and since the players will be expensive it will cost extra so it should be optional. For now dual layer dvds have enough space for games and theyre cheaper. They can also have multiple dvds if theres too much content for one, plus we dont even know what format will win yet. Unregistered - Dub 08.22.2005 23:43 all of this criptic stuff hurts my head. But I think the answer is that the xbox will be made of wood and rabbit turds. This probably doesn't lead to anything but if you copy and paste the origen screen into word there is a "J" that shows up in the lower left hand corner. Also, although I doubt the Nintendo thing is true but on xbox.com there is a link to Xbox360 which reads "Get Info on the Revolution in entertainment:Xbox360" you think that they would have chosen a different word. Additionally when I think about the origin of consoles I think NES so maybe it is something like original generation. Just guesses and I doubt it is the case but that would be one hell of a move for M$ and to announce it in Japan. I am more interested in the hidden functionallity that will be unlocked a year after release. I think this has to be software based and that they are still working on it thus the delay and ability to release through live...unless they are going to activate xbox to transform it into a robot programmed to smash PS3s. Unregistered - Lagman83 08.22.2005 23:51 stupid really, but after reading most of these posts I think it will fit right in. when he refers to shadows, maybe he is referring to to darkness. now if you select everything on the site everything goes dark, also there is a contrast to the background and the foreground. maybe there is something hidden when you use select all? Unregistered - CoolJimKid 08.22.2005 23:55 I read this somewhere else, but I dont remember where, so I dont want to take the credit for it, but if you go to http://www.origenxbox360.net/ , it takes you to the same site, but if you change the domain name to .org, it takes you to a google search of ORIental GENeration...ORIGEN...do you think Microsoft will launch 360 in Japan (and maybe China) before the U.S and Europe? That would be consistent with what everyone deciphered from what the MS guy said. Unregistered - CoolJimKid 08.23.2005 00:02 Oh, and also, the tree has got to symbolize the XBOX 360...the MS guy said what do you get when you cut a tree...all the rings...and the XBOX 360 logo thingy is all of those rings...yeah, its gotta be that... Unregistered - Lagman83 08.23.2005 00:05 this one is towards Post 735 by patric. Yea I can see where you can get that, it does look like the shadow is not a shadow but water. That would drive the the final nail into the Japanese date. a bonzai tree surrounded by water? Clearly represents Japan, with bonzai trees being a symbol of japanese culture and with japan being an island the reflection makes sense. Unregistered - Eddie 08.23.2005 00:27 ok well after reading over one hundred f**king posts, i am ready to talk, i agree with whoever was talkin about M$ and nintendo teamin up 2gether. What is wierd is that the announcment of zelda being pushed back and then the xbox360 being sold in 2 different packages was completely backtoback, meaning that it happened day after day. A little fishy 2 me. Now M$ buying out nintendo would be very risky. Since nintendo has been around for over one hundred years, they definatly have some money, but at the same time, they have been doin really shity with there systems, obviously sony has played a big role in this, ps2 vs n64, ps1 won in the end, Ps2 vs Xbox vs gamecube, ps2 has done the best for these past five years, xbox has finally surpassed them in sales in america this past year and this year, and game cube, is just, well gamecube. So sony has definatly screwed nintendo for the last 10 yrs, and nintendo cant seem to beat them. So they are goin 2 look for help, where, well the richest man in the world, good old bill gates and mircosoft. Now the whole, microsoft buyin out nintendo is a little farfetched but, its possible in the next 5 yrs or so. But we all no that gates said that halo 3 will be released on the same day as ps3, well i am a HUGE halo fan, but even i no that halo 3 wont have the same hype as halo 2 had, unless they pull of some huge shit, which is possible since they have barly released any news on halo3. However, if they (M$ and nintendo) were 2 team up and release legend of zelda and halo3 on the same day, ala, ps3's launch date, i would say sony would be screwed since the ps3 will be expensive as all hell. Thats what would make the most sence to me. But that would rly suck for me since i work at a gamestore. But for whole origen thing, i do not believe M$ will release it in japan first. I believe they want japans attention and i believe they will get it since they are goin 2 announce the merger between the 2 companies on this date, which is the end of this countdown. Plus a whole bunch of other info on the 360 and revolution. Unregistered - Lagman83 08.23.2005 00:43 First, I noticed that the shadow for the rabbit is alot smaller than it should be even for a 2d kind of cutout. Second, there is 2 horizontal lines running parallel underneath the countdown, could mean nothing but still noted. Third, there is additional reflections on the water that dont relate to the tree, maybe the reflection that we think is the stump is not a stump at all. Maybe, just maybe it is actually a part of a picture. Fourth, at the very base of the tree where the water kinda cuts out (at the bottom right) there is what appears to be a house, or something similar to it. You can kinda see it from the site but to really see it you need to zoom in. you see the roof, window, and porch. Unregistered - PsychoMantis 08.23.2005 00:50 Didint they also say that the 360 has some super secret features that we dont know about yet? Maybe it has to do with the revolution. Unregistered - pshizle 08.23.2005 01:09 kk i went to the site and i clicked foward. Next thing u know it there is no countdown or bunny...realy messed up. I hope M$ isnt wasting our time. Unregistered - pshizle 08.23.2005 01:15 i agree eddie !!! Unregistered - pshizle 08.23.2005 01:21 kk if u zoom in almost all the way to so be a lady carved in the tree (bottem). but that person looks like she or he is wearing cloths. Well anyways it looks like link maybe.I wish i can past the pic 8) Unregistered - Tjop21 08.23.2005 03:37 If you read the text on: http://ourcolony.blogspot.com/2005/08/whew.html It all had to do with the first xbox i think. Unregistered - Ichoro 08.23.2005 03:39 Hey I was reading along and I do actually agree with some of the Nintendo theory ... isn't Nintendo old? and didn't some clue referred something as a tree being old, rings (revolutions) and some other stuff like that? what's the input on that? Unregistered - Oh 08.23.2005 03:39 But if you read this line: Personally, I'd like to thank those of you who said "hi" last week, I was wearing a fairly easy to spot hat if you were looking... "hi" was a nice break from the "hallo" Masterchief has a "hat" and the hi was a nice break from Ha(l)lo so i think the new Halo has to do with it. Unregistered - MS 08.23.2005 04:06 from where you are, look behind you. there i am. the important thing is in that which is accidentally satanic. Unregistered - Ichoro 08.23.2005 04:11 Ok... this got to be fake ... can sumeone track the IP ... maybe a Mod? just to tell who really is giving Us a real clue ... ? Unregistered - Tartarus 08.23.2005 04:43 Not exactly very secret, but look at the numbers "NG" has been posting on. especially "666"... that dates back to the Cortana Letters. Has anyone tried emailing her recently? Make sure you send her this EXACT passage: The rest of the day and the next were spent in the rejoicings of the army. Turpin in a solemn service implored the favor of Heaven upon the youthful knights, and blessed the white armor which was prepared for them. Duke Namo presented them with golden spurs, Charles himself girded on their swords. But what was his astonishment when he examined that intended for Ogier! The loving Fairy, Morgana, had had the art to change it, and to substitute one of her own procuring, and when Charles drew it out of the scabbard, these words appeared written on the steel: "My name is Cortana, of the same steel and temper as Joyeuse and Durindana." Charles saw that a superior power watched over the destinies of Ogier; he vowed to love him as a father would, and Ogier promised him the devotion of a son. Happy had it been for both if they had always continued mindful of their promises. Which makes me think. We've had Durindana from the Bungie guys as Durandal, and Cortana as Cortana. If the New AI for MC is called something like "Joyeuse" (Joy-ous ?) We'll know I'm right. Also, both ships He's been on have been something to do with Autumn, or Amber, or Orange.... Amber + Autumn = Leaf/Leaves. What does a Bonsai tree have all year? Leaves. Hm Also, I'm going to post a link for a picture for those who cant see the MC yet. Unregistered - Tartarus 08.23.2005 04:56 The demon. The demon's Head is in the tree. Follow the white rabbit, Faithful, To Learn the Truth. ~ www.kinkendo.co.uk/xbox/white-rabbit.bmp ~ Oh, and If there's anyone here who speaks Otaku, so much the Better - R Unregistered - Tartarus 08.23.2005 04:59 The rest of the day and the next were spent in the rejoicings of the army. Turpin in a solemn service implored the favor of Heaven upon the youthful knights, and blessed the white armor which was prepared for them. Duke Namo presented them with golden spurs, Charles himself girded on their swords. But what was his astonishment when he examined that intended for Ogier! The loving Fairy, Morgana, had had the art to change it, and to substitute one of her own procuring, and when Charles drew it out of the scabbard, these words appeared written on the steel: "My name is Cortana, of the same steel and temper as Joyeuse and Durindana." Charles saw that a superior power watched over the destinies of Ogier; he vowed to love him as a father would, and Ogier promised him the devotion of a son. Happy had it been for both if they had always continued mindful of their promises Unregistered - Astrokid17 08.23.2005 04:59 You know how someone said earlier that if you tried to right-click a few times and pushed forward you would get one of the different screens?, well i don't know if this was figured out by someone else( kinda too many posts to read all at once)just right-click and click play and you should be brought to that other page with just the tree and the word Origen. Unregistered - Astrokid17 08.23.2005 05:08 If you zoom in on the picture one time, look at the bottom left side of the tree where the first branch grows out, maybe it's just me or i can see what looks to be an ape of some sort. It has the low brow ridges, below it the nostrils, and a little lower is where the "mouth" forms outward. King Kong maybe?. Unregistered - Astrokid17 08.23.2005 05:49 If you look closely at the first picture, zoom in two times and look at the very top of the picture if you look closely it might be a little grainy but you can see what looks like words of some sort. Look real close...you might see it. Unregistered - seep 08.23.2005 05:54 to the geezer who said it could be water and not a shadow. I have a LCD monitor aswell and I totally agree with you.. you can clearly see there is reflections in there, so bravo. and whoever is faking the MS guy's clues your an amateur, his clues are cryptic there's alot of "'s and then .NG at the end. Unregistered - Wes 08.23.2005 06:24 Guys i've just read through some of the recent comments. I agree on the reflection thing, but i don't know if its intended. There's a very high possibility that if this picture was taken through a camera and put on this site, that the trees reflection is merely due to the positioning of the camera (hence the slightly darker area). If you look at something on a reflective surface(even a tile!), you will see the shadow of the object, and the reflection of some of it too. The size of the tree shadow could also be due to the positioning of the source of light (above the tree and rabbit). HOWEVER. . With this in mind, the strangest part of the picture(involving shadows), is the way that the tree's shadow is larger(at the base) then the widest part of the tree, and the rabbit's is smaller. This effect is only possible with two sources of light. Why would the sitr maker do this?? Unregistered - sctv 08.23.2005 06:36 this is intresting: http://www.techworld.com/storage/news/index.cfm?NewsID=4268 Unregistered - Zach 08.23.2005 07:27 Patrick, Onceagain you cannot understand Microsoft employees and thier associates are kept under a strict DNA and they cn't tell anyone until it has been declassified. Unregistered - p0pid0l 08.23.2005 07:44 Doesnt anyone think this could just be hype for a new-wave of game that is coming out, or maybe something to do with this fancy new dashboard they are on about or maybe even something to do with the online stuff... You guys have some crazy ideas man! not that im saying you are right or wrong...but you have way too much time on your hands :-P Unregistered - Marko 08.23.2005 08:19 Lets look at the title of the site ... origenxbox360 Ori = Original Gen = generation This could be a site about Xbox 360 compatibility with the original generation of Xbox? Unregistered - redstorm 08.23.2005 08:21 Yes, i think you're right. Maybe it has to do with xbox live or something, something big involving Japan. Unregistered - steve 08.23.2005 08:21 just heard on the grape vine that xbox 360 will not be release till February 2006 yet again microsoft has messed up Unregistered - badger99 08.23.2005 08:42 Yeah - because the grape vine is definately right - i think you should listen to the facts only or just go do a duet with marvin gaye come November. Unregistered - Fito 08.23.2005 08:44 Mabye it's just me has anyone else noticed that the top section of the tree seems like its not connected to the rest of it as if it's in the background almost? Unregistered - Fito 08.23.2005 08:45 Maybe it's just me, but has anyone else noticed that the top section of the tree looks like it's not connected to the rest of the tree? Almost like it's in the background. Unregistered - redstorm 08.23.2005 08:46 yeah it does, the branch might be hidden behind those leaves, but it really doesnt look like it belongs there. Unregistered - gammaman 08.23.2005 08:58 remember what MS said in a recent clue about using our HEAD and that the CLOCK was ticking, he is trying to entise us to change the clock, what to change it to I do not know but I think it does need to be changed, maybe have it count upward I mean what would come after 99 days, what would this counter display? Unregistered - redstorm 08.23.2005 09:08 Ok, I made the timer go all the way up to 100 days but it dilsplays it as 10 days because it cuts off the last digit. I made it go further and it became 25, or 250 somthing, but the picture always stayed the same. Unregistered - gammaman 08.23.2005 09:15 I believe the two letters capitalizations like UT, NG, and HD are very important, could UT mean unreal tournement? Unregistered - gammaman 08.23.2005 09:17 just a thought, if you looks at this sites main page at the top at the xbox 360 logo there is a spiral of rings next to it. Unregistered - redstorm 08.23.2005 09:26 Well maybe it will be some huge announcement involving what the rings on all the xbox 360 stuff stand for, maybe they have some connection with tree rings, and this huge announcement might be ms secret weapon in Japan, because of the J.A.E. clue, something to make the 360 a lot better than ps3. Unregistered - gammaman 08.23.2005 09:27 go to ourcolony.net look at all of those RINGS Unregistered - redstorm 08.23.2005 09:29 Exactly, they're everywhere, all over the packaging and everything. Unregistered - gammaman 08.23.2005 09:31 GO TO ourcolony.net AND KEEP REFRESING THE PAGE THE IMAGE IN THE SPHERE CHANGES!! Unregistered - redstorm 08.23.2005 09:34 Ya I know, remember this clue from ms? "MS 08.21.2005 01:47 "When you didn't capture the attention of someone in the past, next time in the future, do it bigger and smarter, then they will put attention on what you are trying to offer" J.A "People rising up while the sun is still shinning, on 9 something big is going the happen and you will be surprised" Some of you guy has already the answer to all this and even some extras, so you guys just need to wait and find it out, no more clues for now, maybe next week. I'm in a big trouble people at the xbox marketing sector is already searching my person, just, dont forget, this is not a joke, really trust me something BIG is going to happen.NG " I really think they want to kill sony by taking the Japanese market, something huge is gonna happen in Japan when the timer ends methinks. Unregistered - gammaman 08.23.2005 09:35 all the way back in clue # 2 something is mentioned about 2 systems, what does this mean. Unregistered - Fito 08.23.2005 09:35 I asked my friend of Origen meant anything to him and turns out it was the name of a really famous neo-platonist, http://www.iep.utm.edu/o/origen.htmhttp://www.iep.utm.edu/o/origen.htm, it's probably nothing but I figured i would throw it out there. Unregistered - redstorm 08.23.2005 09:39 somebody said it earlier but i think the systems are xbox and xbox 360 and the universe is xbox live, so both will work together all around the world, OR ms bought nintendo and the systems are 360 and revolution but i doubt that. Unregistered - Fito 08.23.2005 09:40 His philosiphies and such were very innovative in a time where there wasn't much innovation. Sort of Revolutionary. Unregistered - redstorm 08.23.2005 09:41 So we have origen = philosopher guy, origen = oriental generation, origen = original generation (xbox 1?) Unregistered - gammaman 08.23.2005 09:51 hey by the way what was the first xbox's exact nov launch date? Unregistered - redstorm 08.23.2005 09:54 I thought it was nov. 4th, thats what everything says, but ms hasnt officially announced it yet. Unregistered - Fito 08.23.2005 09:55 Nov. 15th, 2001 Unregistered - redstorm 08.23.2005 10:00 oh i put 360 launch date, sorry Unregistered - thekohr 08.23.2005 10:02 November 8th, 2001 Unregistered - zak 08.23.2005 10:25 November 15 2001. Unplug your XBOX, plug it back in, and turn it on. The date is right there. Unregistered - Chris 08.23.2005 10:50 I think they are going to make an xbox giant dildo for chines pussy.:D Unregistered - Chris 08.23.2005 10:50 I think they are going to make an xbox giant dildo for chinese pussy.:D Unregistered - Chris 08.23.2005 10:54 Or maybe new xbox condoms with a green X florecent in front. It is known that chinese pussy likes protection:D Unregistered - Wise man 08.23.2005 11:12 Wise man say that there are 12 animals in the chinese zodia one of them being a rabbit, (360/12 = 30) which also fits with ORIental Generation Unregistered - Lagman83 08.23.2005 11:24 well from going off the last clue we are going to need a few more clues to answer this riddle. We are looking too hard for answers to a question we dont even know. Anyways the rabbit is going to change from time to TIME as clue 3 stated. Oh yea, and everyone that is looking for stuff in the tree, just stop it. The last clue said there is nothing in the tree, the ground, or the leaves. I know there is one big but at the end of that sentance. Maybe it means that later there will be something important to do with them, but not right now. ...except for that house at thee bottom right of the tree. That is MY house! hehe. Back on track, we need to wait for another clue thats all. Unregistered - x3b6o0x 08.23.2005 11:24 On wikipedia when you enter Gamem8ker different sites will appear some saying about a white rabbit others with a backward text but with the one which has backward text there is a japanese extract which is roughly translated to "On month 25th as for the product the how high-level disk first being proper, power of the wood where then we are wise old... You see, or are modified" and a korean extract which says "Quickly in the expatiation food... Will give back" Just thought i'd throw that out to brilliant detectives. Unregistered - CoolJimKid 08.23.2005 11:56 In regards to those two comments, I really believe that ORIGEN comes from ORIental GENeration, not ORIginal GENeration. But i'm not sure. I really think that, because, as I said in my other post, http://www.origenxbox360.com/ and http://www.origenxbox360.net/ send you to the same site, but if you go to http://www.origenxbox360.org/ , it takes you to a google search of ORIental GENeration...and MS has the rights to those 3 sites...and for the bunny I doubt this, but i'm merely throwing this out there...the Bunny that is Green might stand for Bill Gates? ...B. G.? eh, idk bout that 1 Unregistered - seep 08.23.2005 11:58 hey you guy's im in the uk and the countdown will finish at midnight on the 26th of september. but japan is 9 hours ahead of us so it will be 1pm over there right. not so when i change my time zone settings it say's it will end on midnight of the 27th in japan WTF is goin on. is it different all over the world? Unregistered - gammaman 08.23.2005 12:04 not any more now the .org sends you to the same site as well Unregistered - CoolJimKid 08.23.2005 12:05 ok, i just went to http://www.origenxbox360.org . Instead of taking me to that google search of ORIental GENeration, it took me to the same countdown...very strange...you think they might have changed it because some of us found out what that stood for? Unregistered - gammaman 08.23.2005 12:07 I think we just may be onto something here!! Unregistered - CoolJimKid 08.23.2005 12:09 yeah, i no, they recently changed it, because some 11 hours ago, it did take you to that google search. Any other peopole that went to http://www.origenxbox360.org before they changed it, can you back me up on this 1? Unregistered - gammaman 08.23.2005 12:10 think back was there any important info found through the google search of ORIental GENeration, I really think MS is just covering their ass now that they screwed up. Unregistered - CoolJimKid 08.23.2005 12:16 Don't be mad at me for this 1, but....I didn't click on any of the searches that popped up on that oriental generation google search....i know, I'm SORRY!...well, if anyone else did, let us know if there was any useful information...well, at the moment, i just did a reagular google search on oriental generation, but i'm not sure if the search results are the same...i tried looking in my history, but it's been erased. I dont know why, i have it so that it never erases my history... Unregistered - redstorm 08.23.2005 12:17 All i remember were some asian websites but nothing about xbox. Unregistered - That Guy 08.23.2005 12:18 So the rabbit is one sign of the 12 japanese zodiacs. 360/12=30. On Saturday the timer will have exactly 30 days left. The date on Saturday will be 8/27/05. Thus, the site will change when the timer says 30.08.27.05. What will change? I'm guessing that MS's clues will suddenly become useful, and lead us "down the rabbit hole." These first few days were only to garner attention. IGN just now posted this thing on their xbox360 page. Unregistered - redstorm 08.23.2005 12:21 Yeah they'll probably change te page on saturday and the ms guy promised more clues next week or something. Unregistered - That Guy 08.23.2005 12:25 Oh yeah, the last "year of the rabbit" was 1999. As we all know, 1999 was the eve of the new millennium. 2000 was the "year of the dragon." On Saturday the rabbit will change into a dragon, and usher in a new millennium of gaming. In our case, the site will include a dragon and some other clues to lead us to a solution. Unregistered - seep 08.23.2005 12:27 on a more disturbing note gentlemen.. ladies also, ive just been informed from my local curry's (bunch of fags) that they are selling the HD lead for the 360 at a whopping £120 that's just robbery. so if anyone is still unsure of which package to get i suggest you get the premium one, your gonna save yourself a few quid overall. Unregistered - redstorm 08.23.2005 12:27 Yeah that seems to fit with everything, good thinking. That would certainly be a change for the rabbit. Unregistered - redstorm 08.23.2005 12:31 Oh and yeah the premium is a much better deal, you probably save over a hundred dollars over buying the stuff seperately. Unregistered - Tartaraus 08.23.2005 12:49 hm... halo 2, released Nov 9th. Is set in 2552... Regular Zodiac sign? Scorpio. Chinese Zodiac sign? DRAGON Unregistered - CoolJimKid 08.23.2005 12:50 I think when the countdown ends, XBOX 360 is coming out...If you go to http://games.teamxbox.com/ (an official XBOX site) it shows you a bunch of game relese titles. If you go to the game "GUN" it tells you that its for XBOX 360 and is expected to comeout in november...now why would a game comeout for 360 is 360 isn't even out yet?! Unregistered - CoolJimKid 08.23.2005 13:05 Wait, i got all caught up in that after i found that site..i forgot that there was still a month and a few days between the end of the countdown and Nov.....i hope it still comes out on that date though Unregistered - Dusty 08.23.2005 13:09 I am 100% sure these belong to some guy who has nothing to do with MS or the Xbox 360. They are not owned by Microsoft and they are also registered the day after we first posted about this. The two sites only frame the .com version and what ever these sites have shown in the past or may show in the future, it is fake clues. And if the clues these sites show happens to be relevant it is just pure luck. Now what strikes me though is why MS didn't register all three versions of this domain, as they know other people would grab them if they didn't. Unregistered - xmaverickx 08.23.2005 13:44 Quick thought, I was having lunch with my girlfriend today and updating her about the entire situation. Jokingly she suggested the following: I know some of you have suggested that the actual shading around the tree is not a shadow but yet water. I cant find in the threads if someone has actually validated this or not...SO... - if the shading around the base of the tree IS water AND - we've already concluded that the tree is a bonsai tree, resembling among other things Japan... THEN - the water surrounding the base of the tree confirms that the tree is a symbolization of Japan, which is surrounded by water. However, if the shading around the bottom is actual shadows and not water, everyone can disregard this post...otherwise its some more proof validating the news release deals with Japan in a very large way. xmaverickx Unregistered - redstorm 08.23.2005 13:58 Yeah somebody noticed that symbolism earlier too...it really doesnt look like a shadow. Unregistered - Big Sixer 08.23.2005 14:34 We know that the shadow is important. We also know that tree has two shadows. The main one, and a darker one right in the middle off the trunk. This indicates that there are in fact 2 points of light. The darker one being cast by a light source to the West. Look at the right hand side of the tree shadow. There is a gap of white where there should not be one. What if the shadow being cast is an image of something, or somewhere, that we cannot see from this angle? Like looking at a map at an angle. The light coming from the top of the tree is casting this image, through the tree. Looking down on it like you would if you were looking at the rings in the tree. What is that light? What is the image? Am I way off base? Just some thoughts. Unregistered - Big Sixer 08.23.2005 14:38 Oh yeah, what about the two dots half way between the rabit and the tree? They are not there by accident. The entire white floor is starile, except for that. They are on the fringe of the shadow cast by the tree, so they have to be part of the tree. What? I do not have a clue, yet. Unregistered - Red 08.23.2005 15:34 The shadows dont have a Damn thing to do with the puzzle. No I am not a MS rep or some one on the inside, I'm just someone with a damn brain and I can say with unwavering certainty that the shadows only purpose is to be shadows. But maybe the obsession with those shadows are a warning sign that you all need sleep, sex, and sustenance(not simultaneously though). Unregistered - Josh 08.23.2005 15:44 When the timer expires, MS will commence nuclear testing of the coast of Japan, thus awaking Godzilla, who will then rampage through japan, destroying Sony's HQ and pushing the launch of PS3 back until at least 2007, giving MS ample time to rule the market. Unregistered - Lagman83 08.23.2005 15:44 I am going to hold you to that statement red. Maybe you are right, maybe the shadow of the tree is just that. I will stick to my prediction and I will honor yours. Guess only time will tell who is correct. Unregistered - Ryan 08.23.2005 15:48 Just as a clarification, the article lists the date as possibly being Sept. 27th at midnight. In the source of the flash file, this is the code to define the date it is counting down to: target_mill = date.utc(2005, 8, 27, 12); Below that is just a bunch of code to determine the difference between the current time and the target time, and a call to update the time every second. This date points to September 27th, 2005 at noon to be the countdown target. Also, so you all don't waste too much time, there is *nothing* else in the flash file except for the two images that you've all seen (picture w/ rabbit and w/o) and this countdown code. So unless they change the file at some point, you're not going to discover any secrets there. Unregistered - Red 08.23.2005 15:57 "Lagman83 08.23.2005 03:44 I am going to hold you to that statement red. Maybe you are right, maybe the shadow of the tree is just that. I will stick to my prediction and I will honor yours. Guess only time will tell who is correct" We shall see, but a real observation would be with competition being what it is, why do Xbox people keep providing Nintendo Free Publicity, I mean all the clues do really seem to point to Nintendo, so if the theory of a buyout has no credability then why provide your competitor with a "Mental Reminder" form of advertising Unregistered - Wes 08.23.2005 16:08 Guys i've just read through some of the recent comments. I agree on the reflection thing, but i don't know if its intended. There's a very high possibility that if this picture was taken through a camera and put on this site, that the trees reflection is merely due to the positioning of the camera (hence the slightly darker area). If you look at something on a reflective surface(even a tile!), you will see the shadow of the object, and the reflection of some of it too. The size of the tree shadow could also be due to the positioning of the source of light (above the tree and rabbit). HOWEVER. . With this in mind, the strangest part of the picture(involving shadows), is the way that the tree's shadow is larger(at the base) then the widest part of the tree, and the rabbit's is smaller. This effect is only possible with two sources of light. Why would the site maker do this?? Tell me your thoughts. Unregistered - normal guy 08.23.2005 16:26 "ok, what do you find when you cut tree in half and see it by the top?(HD) another detail,youll see something different with the rabbit(HD)so check it from time to TIME(HD" look at the realation between tree cut open and logo. circles and logo. http://photos3.flickr.com/6885361_78c317a7b2_m.jpg http://www.jeuxpo.com/images/xbox-360/logo-xbox-360b.jpg Unregistered - normal guy 08.23.2005 16:26 "ok, what do you find when you cut tree in half and see it by the top?(HD) another detail,youll see something different with the rabbit(HD)so check it from time to TIME(HD" look at the realation between tree cut open and logo. circles and logo. http://photos3.flickr.com/6885361_78c317a7b2_m.jpg http://www.jeuxpo.com/images/xbox-360/logo-xbox-360b.jpg Unregistered - gammaman 08.23.2005 16:34 I am a college student and on tuesdays which the 27th of september is one of them, I have classes all day, hence I would miss the big news, however it just so happens that on this one particular day (the 27th) , the school just so happens to be closed for governence meetings, now what are the chances of that. Unregistered - SEEP 08.23.2005 16:36 the core is in the center, maybe the core (casual gamers) is the center of the experience. anyways i've just had a look at that our colony video an at 4 mins 20 seconds some dude puts a green rabbit mask on. any thoughts? Unregistered - gammaman 08.23.2005 16:36 what that relationship is very clear in those pictures, almost scarry! Unregistered - Dub 08.23.2005 16:56 So all this talk about cutting down trees. What do you see...RINGS. Okay what rings? A phone. so MS is going to make Xbox 360 act like a video phone. That or Bill Gates is going to call you personally just to shoot the sh!t. I will tell you one thing I know this all means. It means MS can makes us do just about anything, to the extent of grasping at straws for hours on end. Now they are trying to decide if they can get you to pay $100 for a Xbox 360 licensed wireless controller holster. LOL just kidding. Unregistered - Dub 08.23.2005 17:00 I haven't really paid any attention to the Viral campaigns in the past so I don't really know how they work but I thought that there were generally objectives, say to figure out what the password so that you would then be rewarded with some more information and clues. I don't see this here, just all speculation with no direction to focus it in. Correct me if I am wrong. Will some informant like MS say yea one of your 250 ideas is right here is a screen shot of Halo 3? Unregistered - Astrokid17 08.23.2005 17:01 I don't know if someone already figured this out but if you right click the picture and click "Back" the spirals will start automatically. They will stop if you put the arrow on the picture again......nothing special here just wanted to point something out. Unregistered - redstorm 08.23.2005 17:04 Well I was just looking at ourcolony on wiki and they had challenges every day and the first colony to solve the puzzle got points and there was like a competition and at the end the reward was some video i think of the 360, but here we're just speculating what this picture means from the clues so this is different. Unregistered - Dub 08.23.2005 17:07 The talk about the shadows makes me think it is not literal but meaning it is hidden. If you "select all" on ourcolony.net then copy and paste into word it says "You are the source, create" which is not seen anywhere on the screen normally. Have I stumbled onto something here? I haven't seen anyone else mention this before. Also I wondered if the dot pattern spelled out something like connect the dots. Well see. Unregistered - gammaman 08.23.2005 17:08 could it be that all of the capitalized words are acronyms, EX:CPU= central processing unit?, think out what the capitalized words could stand for. Unregistered - GOD 08.23.2005 17:14 GOD.. HEY THAT'S ME.. YOU BLOKES ARE BLIND.. BLINDED BY MY MIGHT PERHAPS. ANYWAY BACK TO BUISINESS, THAT SEEP GUY IS RIGHT, WHY WONT YOU RECOGNIZE HIS BRILLIANCE. THERE IS A MORTAL WHO PLACES A GREEN RABBIT MASK OVER HIS UGLY FEATURES ON THE OUR COLONY VIDEO, TELL US WHAT SIGNIFICANCE THIS HAS IF ANY AT ALL. PEASENTS!! Unregistered - sctv 08.23.2005 17:39 go on www.ilovebees.com new timer Unregistered - ima loser69 08.23.2005 17:50 dub was right i coppied and pasted it to word and it said" you are the source,create" wonder y? Unregistered - ima loser69 08.23.2005 17:54 wat is up with the ilovebees.com site i tried it and sum thing wierd happened.. Unregistered - ima loser69 08.23.2005 18:00 am i the only 1 who noticed but the symbol on the ants ass or back or watever look jus like hurley??!!?? thats kind of strange... Unregistered - seep 08.23.2005 18:01 dunno but im not waiting round for that one. think i'll be pushin up daisy's by then. Unregistered - ima loser69 08.23.2005 18:03 true...but it is king of strange. Unregistered - ima loser69 08.23.2005 18:05 kind of strange is wat i ment to say...lol srry Unregistered - gammaman 08.23.2005 18:07 I think they picked a tree, because of what it signifies, being something that is stationary, rooted into the ground it does not move Unregistered - gammaman 08.23.2005 18:09 I don't think anyone caught this but IGN has an article on this topic and they claim that the rabbit is orange WTF? Unregistered - Dub 08.23.2005 18:11 http://transmit.ilovebees.com/surveillance_archive/week1_subject2.wav seems like all the audio files go to this. Perfect Dark Zero if you as me... a Women..she can go invisible. Unregistered - ima loser69 08.23.2005 18:13 wtf are they lookin at the same pic we are? Unregistered - gamewinner 08.23.2005 18:16 You are the source, create ? ? or·i·gen or·i·gen [áwr?jin] (plural or·i·gens) n 1. starting point: a starting point or first cause (often used in the plural) the origins of the universe 2. source: the thing from which something develops or the place where it comes from (often used in the plural) the uncertain origin of the expression Encarta ® World English Dictionary © & (P) 1998-2004 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved. Unregistered - maccdaddy 08.23.2005 18:17 The initial shipments of Xbox 360 will be based on today's DVD format,” Gates confirmed. “We are looking at whether future versions of Xbox 360 will incorporate an additional capability of an HD DVD player or something else.” this is a direct quote from an earlier article from Bill Gates. what if the future version of the xbox 360 was the premium version. this is just an idea so dont get mad if im wrong. Unregistered - redstorm 08.23.2005 18:35 lol hees right, ign says theres an orange rabbit but the picture on the same page shows a green rabbit. http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/644/644110p1.html Unregistered - ima loser69 08.23.2005 18:40 that makes no sense at all,they are clearly blind... Unregistered - Dub 08.23.2005 19:03 I think they might need a new monitor if green looks orange. That or they are color blind. Okay now everyone back on task...I don't a mistake by IGN is a clue. I feel like the middle manager in charge of telling time...lol Unregistered - CoolJimKid 08.23.2005 19:03 Microsoft HAS to own http://www.origenxbox360.net and http://www.origenxbox360.org bucause otherwise what those people are doing would be illegal, and MS would definately be on their A$e$... Unregistered - Patrick 08.23.2005 19:17 Yeah we went over that already... just dont think thats big enough of a deal, due to the fact it wont change much until on down the road and could hurt xbox 360 if blu-ray wins. Plus its not something Microsoft would really want to keep secret till right before the xbox comes out or not anything they could keep secret due to it would already have to be in manurfacturing at the factory.. dna or not everyone working in the factorys that make it and the movies for it dont work for microsoft. I still say if thats it... Big deal...doesnt change much since few people have a hd tv. Unregistered - xmaverickx 08.23.2005 19:23 Alright as many of you know there is a new countdown on www.ilovebees.com. The number of days is 199865 (the hours, min. and sec. is irrelevant). Alright divide 199865 by 365 (days a year) you get 547 years. Now add that to 2005 and guess what you get? 2552. The year that Halo/Halo 2 is set in. Now above the countdown timer it states: Countdown to Wide Awake and Physical? Any idea guys? Unregistered - gammaman 08.23.2005 19:29 I found out what UT stands for it means universal time, look it up for yourself on dictionary.com Unregistered - Simo 08.23.2005 19:31 prob cus in bout 50 years time we'll be playing on the real deal like when we feel like were actually there Sony is working on what has been dubbed as "the matrix theory" as we speak so sounds kinda scary if u think about it. Unregistered - gammaman 08.23.2005 19:34 NG - I looked up a bunch of acronyms and the best I came up with was next generation. Unregistered - Derek Thompson 08.23.2005 20:10 madden is already out and it is coming out for the 360 also. Unregistered - CoolJimKid 08.23.2005 20:19 Well, I dont think that really has anything to do with what i wrote there, but w/e that's not important...what is important is that that tree and bunny and countdown mean Unregistered - oldnoname 08.23.2005 20:37 this may sound wierd but its just a question who said that the tree and rabbit and clock was anything about xbox??!!?? Unregistered - CoolJimKid 08.23.2005 20:39 I don't think anyone's put this up...my friend got this http://www.origenxbox360.com/swf/countdown/countdown.swf its the url to the flash. If anyone can do something with it, go for it, and let us know what you find Unregistered - romanus 08.23.2005 20:51 I was dreaming about all of this.. it makes me crazy Unregistered - CoolJimKid 08.23.2005 20:56 i couldnt go to sleep, hoping that i would make some maravalous breakthrough...i didnt Unregistered - Dub 08.23.2005 21:07 #890 I don't know why people think this is about Xbox360...well except for the fact that the site is, I don't know...www.origenxbox360.com. That could have something to do with it. I am just giving you a hard time. Unregistered - gammaman 08.23.2005 21:13 the color of the rabbit is IDENITICAL to the color of the word XBOX in xbox 360 Unregistered - haloman 08.23.2005 21:16 I bet the guys at MS are loving this thread! They're suffering trying to get the new console on store shelves before Thanksgiving. At least they can witness a little collateral pain with this bizarre web page riddle. They'll throw us a bone now and then till they're ready to spill the beans. One way or another we'll know everything soon... Unregistered - gammaman 08.23.2005 21:30 I see the orange rabbit, if you tilt the monitor to 180 degrees the rabbit is clearly orange!! Unregistered - Matt 08.23.2005 21:31 This whole thing is driving me insane. I've spent hours today alone searching the web and staring at the stupid bonsai tree and rabbit trying to find out some meaning or purpose to the site. This better be well worth it when we finally find out what happens on Sept 27. Unregistered - PsychoMantis 08.23.2005 21:32 Yeah dude, your right. We shouldent go breaking our asses all day trying to figure this out. Take a break guys. We will know what all this means in a few weeks. Unregistered - bob 08.23.2005 21:35 in the bottom left hand corner of the tree there is silver object that looks like a mouse Unregistered - MH 08.23.2005 21:39 I'm sure others tried this too... but i reset my system clock to see what happened at the end of the countdown... damn MS are too clever... just transfers to the other screen that you can 'forward' to anyway. keep an eye on that though, they have to upload it sometime. Unregistered - Dub 08.23.2005 21:45 "they have to upload it sometime"...yeah in like 34days 15hours and 16 minutes. Haha I don't think they would do something that easy. Nice thought. They are trying to say that they have trained rabbits to make wood faceplates with nothing more then their teeth. If the rabbits do cooperate they get a sign post shoved up their A$ Unregistered - Dub 08.23.2005 21:47 That is if the rabbits DON'T cooperate...very important* Unregistered - You Will Know Me By The Trail Of Dead 08.23.2005 21:50 So, I've been keeping track of this quite a bit, reading every comment, and not contributing. Anyhow, I think that the N/MS theory is very reasonable. But, I don't really think MS would be buying out Nintendo, but, I think it would be more of a truce between the two companies or something of the likes, to have their consoles interact, and create something that would seriously give the PS3 a run for their money. Unregistered - Derek Thompson 08.23.2005 22:25 now that could be very possible and would be very kick ass probly even better then the idea of microsoft buying so nintendo can keep making those freakin awesome zelda games and mario karts. Unregistered - Derek Thompson 08.23.2005 22:26 i mean keep there creative minds while microsoft wouldn't have to approve(even though i bet they would) Unregistered - Red 08.23.2005 22:31 Maybe nintendo would licsence some of thier exclusive titles for the 360? Unregistered - Cornezy 08.24.2005 03:18 OK THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE PLAYABLE 360's in stores starting sept! That is fun for some because the only people having fun wil be the ones in the store. Thnik about it, hey have to start putting them in gamestores sometime soon. At the japan conference they will have playable units there then units will pop up everywhere. Then in Nov everyone will have there chances to get there hand on it. Unregistered - x3b6o0x 08.24.2005 05:02 My personal feeling is that microsoft will announce that thier games will run on High Definition DVD's to try and compete with the Ps3 which will use Blu-ray. My reasoning behind this is that as no-one wanted to produce their spec list first but microsoft took it and then sony reacted, therefore microsoft now wants to rethink some of the idea and use HD DVD instead of the dual layer DVD which is no match for the Blu ray. I understand that this has no exact meaning to origenxbox360 but i thought it would help... Unregistered - Wes 2 08.24.2005 06:54 As ms havnt actually mentioned release date mayb theconsole is coming out in sept, also do we know that the guy givin clues is official, he may just b throwin us off track with his rambling Unregistered - x3b6o0x 08.24.2005 07:25 Well some of the clues from the MS guy might be correct but anyone can impersonate him just by naming themselves MS and typing NG after every comment. Unregistered - Simon Kent 08.24.2005 07:43 When I was first shown the Origen link by a friend of mine, I hadn't yet read any clues or other people's thoughts on what it may exactly be. I said to him that the rabbit is a reference to an easter egg, while the Bonsai tree is symbolic of the land of the rising sun, that being Japan. From that, I assumed that some type of valuable information about the 360 will be released (opening up the easter egg) to the Japanese public (the taste testers) after the time period runs out. Having now read the clues, other people's ideas, and after spending some time thinking about it all myself, I have now come up with some theories. Theory 1- After reading the clues from NG, I'm thinking a lot about the words of elements and graphics. From this my first theory comes. I took a screenshot of the site and found inconsistencies in the image. The first you can see by zooming into the bottom left of the tree. By examining the pixels, you can see that the line of the trunk is not as it should be, and it seems that something is on the left side of the tree. Is it a crystal, a key, or a raindrop? I'm going with a raindrop, and I'll explain why. Secondly, examine the shadow coming off the tree. Where is the light source coming from? Notice how the shadow to the right of the tree doesn't have any part of a tree above it? Light can't come from two angles. Follow the line of the shadow, and closer to the front you can notice a smudge. Is this a shadow of just one leaf or is it evidence that the shadow has been manipulated? In the end, if everything is as it seems, we have an animal (life), we have a tree (earth), in my mind what appears to be a raindrop (water), a shadow (light), and I forgot to mention, at just past 1am in Australia (where I am), the rabbit rocked back and forth on that little pole in the ground, to the left and back to the right, and then stopped. Could this represent a wind gust or randomness in life? It wasn't on the change of an hour or a specific point in time, just a random period, and NG did tell us to keep an eye on the rabbit for changes right? No developer has truly mastered the creation and manipulation of the elements of life. Imagine water that reacts to changes in the surface, leafs that fall off trees due to wind gusts, and shadows appearing as they should from different light sources, all perfectly, as they would do so in real life. The one constant in all of the elements I have described on the site is the one thing that is most evident. Time. It is the one thing that controls us all in the end. The clock is counting, and it will run out of time. If any of this element talk is true, my theory suggests that perhaps come September 27th, we will see the unveiling of some new graphical advancement or program codenamed 'Origen', as in the beginning of a new generation in graphics. Doesn't sound so far off now after reading all of that does it? Theory 2- A very quick and simple theory. Japanese people love nothing more than gadgets, and small ones at that. Why not a portable gaming device from Microsoft called the 'Origen'. The word 'Origen' referring to the beginning of a new generation in portable gaming. Japan would be the perfect place to launch such a piece of technology. Lastly, a website with the url http://www.origen360.com/ has been registered by someone. Probably by Microsoft, and more than likely just as a URL that will pass visitors on to the other site in the future, or does a website with the word 'Xbox' taken out of the picture mean something? Perhaps the 'Xbox' is the main console, the 'Origen' is the portable gaming device, and the '360' is the medium which joins both together? Only time will tell. Unregistered - gammaman 08.24.2005 07:55 the counter is not made up of pixels, just thought I would point this out. Unregistered - gammaman 08.24.2005 08:05 accoeding to IGN there is a 360 tour that begins in tokyo on 10/27/05, exactly on month after the counter is set to expire. Any thoughts? Unregistered - Red 08.24.2005 08:13 That's because flash is a vector based program. the pixels are in the images because they are pixel based jpegs, and probably not at a high res either so as not to have the site be too big. Unregistered - gammaman 08.24.2005 08:16 I just never noticed, before nut now we can rule out anything being hidden within the clock itself! Unregistered - thedagger 08.24.2005 08:54 Tree bark here rabbit sign there clueless clues are everywhere colorless ground and sunless sky Timer's ticking, running dry... Unregistered - boob 08.24.2005 09:24 theres a silver thing on th lower left hand side of da tree Unregistered - boob 08.24.2005 09:24 theres a silver thing on th lower left hand side of da tree Unregistered - boob 08.24.2005 09:24 theres a silver thing on th lower left hand side of da tree Unregistered - lil' gringo 08.24.2005 10:50 Wow that's mature... got nothing else to add Unregistered - Red 08.24.2005 11:12 Suprised they took this long to show-up Unregistered - Tartarus 08.24.2005 11:47 PLEASE! DELETE THESE LITTLE CRAPS OF SPAM! PLEASE! BLOCK THE IP! PLEASE!! Unregistered - seep 08.24.2005 11:49 can anyone see this??????? Unregistered - Lagman83 08.24.2005 11:53 Right on Red. I guess they were busy spamming some other board. either that or they were too busy eating twinkies and hot pockets in their mothers basement. Unregistered - Red 08.24.2005 12:16 Back on topic, I was reading on a couple other boards about the possibilty of MS and the Movie studios maybe delaying Halo3 until 07' to coincide with the Film. And that made me think that since Halo3 was the frontrunner in the battle with Sony, maybe if the Nintendo speculation is true MS and Bungie may not feel as much pressure to try and release Halo3 day and date with PS3 anymore. Or maybe they know sumthin about the actual PS3 release that leads them to believe it wont ship until sometime in 07'. Just Something slightly related that I felt may have some relationship with whatever MS is going to announce. Unregistered - gammaman 08.24.2005 12:27 where is the ourcolony video? Unregistered - Matt 08.24.2005 12:32 I just searched for it on Google Unregistered - Red 08.24.2005 12:32 Yeah for real, somebody post a link or sumthin' Unregistered - Cornezy 08.24.2005 12:34 I got an email from ebgames the newsletter stating, you get a few hours earlier to reserve the bundled 360's and then it said in nov. the high definition era begins. There is your answer! thank you, thank you, you are all too kind! Unregistered - Red 08.24.2005 12:48 Here it is http://www.xbox-scene.com/xbox1data/sep/EEEVAuyFZuOyJuFoEz.php Unregistered - Passerby 08.24.2005 13:04 Did anyone notice the word "Origen" written in white in the leaves of the tree on the right hand side? Unregistered - gammaman 08.24.2005 13:14 that video was great!! Unregistered - king 08.24.2005 13:31 xbox360news.com just added that shenmue 3 might be coming to 360, it says its close to finish so perhaps this tree thing has to do with shenmue being announced when timer runs out?? Unregistered - MoonFace 08.24.2005 13:51 Bill Gates told me that when it runs out, Xbox 360 will turn into a metal gear robot, destroy sony and steal their games. Unregistered - haloman 08.24.2005 13:57 BestBuy has a pre order selection for Halo3. They list the release date as 11/16/05!?!? If this is true it would be worthy of all the the Origen hype. Unregistered - haloman 08.24.2005 13:57 BestBuy has a pre order selection for Halo3. They list the release date as 11/16/05!?!? If this is true it would be worthy of all the Origen hype. Unregistered - redstorm 08.24.2005 14:34 Omg he's right, they list it 11/16/2005!!! I thought it was gonna come out at ps3 launch but this could be right. Unregistered - redstorm 08.24.2005 14:36 Oh well they list all the other games coming the 16th or 17th including gears of war, but maybe the console will come out the 16th? Unregistered - Matt 08.24.2005 14:42 Even if this is true I don't think it has anything to do with the Origen site. I doubt that a bonsai tree and a rabbit somehow refer to Halo. Unregistered - haloman 08.24.2005 15:01 You're probably right. But, the hints do give reference to circles. What do you see when you look at a tree stump from above? Circles... Halo's... Unregistered - Matt 08.24.2005 15:12 Plus I also think that it would be a strategicaly poor move for MS to release Halo 3 so early. A huge title like Halo 3 would be far more useful for MS if it were to be released close to the launch of PS3. I also really doubt that Bungie would be able to complete such a massive and high quality game in only a years time when the previous titles took around 4 years each to complete. Unregistered - redstorm 08.24.2005 15:20 Yeah i think bestbuy's just messed up, Bill Gates himself said they'd release it at ps3 launch. Unregistered - Matt 08.24.2005 15:25 But you never know. What if it isn't a bonsai tree but an apple tree. I just found out that there is a type of apple called a SPARTAN!!!! So therefore it could be a Spartan tree. Possibly a reference to Halo. Coincidence....maybe, but maybe not. I guess we'll just have to wait and see. Unregistered - Red 08.24.2005 15:27 I really hope the PS3 and Halo3 don't actually release on the same day. I can see Halo3 players and PS3 players lined up outside game stores the night of the releases talkin shit to each other, needless to say someone would be dumb enough to start a fight and the end result would be some 200,000 people or more Sueing everyone from MS to Sony to EB and even Police Departments Nationwide. Shit, now that I think about it, maybe they should? Unregistered - tterb0 08.24.2005 15:44 Yes, the shadow is uneven, as in the shadow extends outward on both sides. Some of you hinted that it would take at least 2 light sources to do that, and I agreed...at first. It is possible to make such a shadow with a light directly above the tree, and not far away. I doubt it has any relevance to what happens when the clock strikes zero though. I'm not saying any of you are wrong, at all, but I am leaning more towards it having to do with Japan, just what? Keep on guessing, just don't let it get to ya' Unregistered - seep 08.24.2005 15:50 did you see the rabbit on the vid? Unregistered - seep 08.24.2005 15:57 never mind it's a orange rabbit not green. lcd's suck ass. Unregistered - Red 08.24.2005 16:39 I still feel its a little weird that off all the animals it could have been in the video he would choose rabbit shades. And it did'nt serve a purpose in the narrative of the clip so it may still be relevant Unregistered - Red 08.24.2005 16:39 I still feel its a little weird that of all the animals it could have been in the video he would choose rabbit shades. And it did'nt serve a purpose in the narrative of the clip so it may still be relevant Unregistered - haloman 08.24.2005 16:41 One thing to remember. All the MS Xbox guys keep saying it’s about the SW… The game play… What’s going to blows your socks off? A really incredible game or a new type of Live experience. I DON’T think this is about HW. I think it will be all about some new experience be it a game or some new Live behavior. Unregistered - GeeEyeJoe 08.24.2005 16:43 Hey comezy, sorry to burst your bubble, but the reason that EB games says that in Nov the High-Def era begins is because MS has required all third party developers to make ALL games with the ability to be viewed in High-Def. And since the release date is expected in November - hence the statement "in November the high definition era begins". But for the most part, I think most of you guys are looking at the picture to literally. I mean you guys are disecting shadows, tree leaves, a cursive spelling of "Origen", and someone says they see a house?? I don't have any answers either, but I suspect that the answer lies within the meaning of the picture, not what's WRONG with the picture provided. Unregistered - Big Sixer 08.24.2005 18:14 So I just watched the video with Allard talking about the 360. He mentions that Ring of Light. He mentions that "Microsoft gave birth to the 360, but we (the players) give it life." Interesting comments that fit with our Origen theme. The thing that I want to know is, did anybody see the hint at the very end of that video? After the credits is says "More truth where the music is watched." What do you suppose that means? Unregistered - Big Sixer 08.24.2005 18:16 So I just watched the video with Allard talking about the 360. He mentions that Ring of Light. He mentions that "Microsoft gave birth to the 360, but we (the players) give it life." Interesting comments that fit with our Origen theme. The thing that I want to know is, did anybody see the hint at the very end of that video? After the credits is says "More truth where the music is watched." What do you suppose that means? Unregistered - max 08.24.2005 18:19 that colony video is soo old!! why are you guys looking at it now!?? the vid came out just before e3 Unregistered - redstorm 08.24.2005 18:21 Oh I know, mtv, music videos, where the music is watched, and didnt they do some special on the 360? Unregistered - asjdjoad 08.24.2005 18:47 the bunny moved whil i was looking at it!!!!!! Unregistered - gfdgfdsg 08.24.2005 18:48 why are all u guys making a llloooooooonnngg page for something that dosent matter Unregistered - Wayne 08.24.2005 21:00 They're going to release Halo 3 in virtual 3D. Rings = Halo 3. Alice in Wonderland = different dimension = Virtual 3D. Unregistered - tterb0 08.24.2005 21:47 I doubt the 3D thing. I'm not a big fan of 3D things, and that would take a long time to produce, if you thought halo 2 took forever to come out, hah. Sim Goggles would be fun, but doubtful. **Bungie has a policy of not giving a release date, and they do not like being under pressure. They like to take their time, get the game done right. They have a BIG franchise going, and expectations are going to be high. The hype is going to be extremely high, which means that the game can be no less than perfect, critics "Will" slam the game hard. Although Bill Gates is a powerful man, he doesnt have as much control of Microsoft as you'd think, nor does he have much control over Bungie. Halo 3 will be out for the next holiday season at the least, very doubtful for a Spring '06 launch. Unregistered - FalseProphecy 08.24.2005 23:08 This seems odd. I've just noticed this. The shadow is way too big for the tree, so evidently, the light source must be right above it to create that kind of large shadow, but the rabbit has a shadow that does the same. If it was a singular light source, the rabbit would have a shadow coming towards the viewpoint, but there must be more than one, because the rabbit has a small shadow right beneath it. Does this have anything to do with ANYTHING? Unregistered - CoolJimKid 08.24.2005 23:45 Well, yeah, we've all pretty much acknowledged that...read some of the posts...lol, i'm just giving u a hard time...but yeah, we're not really sure if it has to do with anything though Unregistered - skooby 08.24.2005 23:47 http://www.spacerad.com/rabbit/movie/holygrail.html Its the killer rabbit from Monty Python... Its so cute and fluffy... I just want to take it home... Arg! Ahhhh!.... Death... Gurgle... Unregistered - Lagman83 08.25.2005 01:03 to post 997: it cant be that rabbit. That evil bunny was blown up by the holy hand grenade. Maybe it is its child or something, that would make sense. to the post 986: YES! you see the house too?! No, but to be serious I was just stating what I saw after staring at the photo for some time. I guess I was looking for something cryptic like different shades of pixels arranged into another web address. happened on that kinda strange formation of pixels and called it a house. I agree though we are looking too hard at it and need to broaden our view of this pic. Unregistered - alboberries 08.25.2005 01:35 Just to point out to you, Dub, I already posted the "you are the source, create" thing a long time ago. Just search the page for it. Im not bashing you, just so you know. Unregistered - PsychoMantis 08.25.2005 02:10 yeah... Unregistered - QSilverTwo 08.25.2005 04:37 Didn't bonsai trees originate in China and then were later adopted later by Japan? Unregistered - psychomantis 08.25.2005 05:42 Yeah, but when you think bonsai tree, you think japan... Unregistered - Max 08.25.2005 07:36 i noticed when you clicked on settings on the origen website it comes up with do you want origenxbox360.com to access your microphone and camera Unregistered - Max 08.25.2005 07:47 hey i just thought of something that a guy was on about the two shadows of the bonsai tree and the rabbit he said the the rabbit shadow is as iff the sun was directly above the rabbit well some over guy found out it the timer counts down to mid day 12 noon well if you satnd directly under the sun at 12 noon middle of the day your shadow would look the same as the rabbit (hopes this helps) Unregistered - Max 08.25.2005 08:17 who said the animal was a rabbit it could be a hair (the picture has long ers for it to be a rabbit) Unregistered - Dusty - Click here to see the pic 08.25.2005 08:29 Guys click my name to see the pic I put together, I think it could be onto something. Unregistered - The.true.com 08.25.2005 08:42 the first package is 90 degrees no 80 Unregistered - The.true.com 08.25.2005 08:42 the first package is 90 degrees no 80 Unregistered - gammaman 08.25.2005 08:42 good idea but I think it is a little to late for microsoft to come up with another system package at this point. Unregistered - The.true.com 08.25.2005 08:42 the first package is 90 degrees no 80 Unregistered - gammaman 08.25.2005 08:44 If only we had a way to view the pages source code, it contains all the info. Another thing, has anyone played the game not pr0n? , if you have , you already know what Iam getting at! Unregistered - Dusty 08.25.2005 08:55 I don't think there will come another launch package, only that they signal that some sort of upgrade will come in the future, it could as well be a free upgrade that you could download through Xbox live. I think it is odd that the premium package don't have a full circle, now why is that? Unregistered - max 08.25.2005 08:57 why not have 3 packages? package 1 xbox 360,wired controll, hd package 2 xbox 360,wireless controll, hd , + accessories package 3 xbox 360,wireless controll x2 ,bigger hd , accessories , and a game i think the guy who came up with 3 packages is probaly wright. maybe japan will only get the 3rd package Unregistered - gammaman 08.25.2005 08:57 the only thing I can say is that we have not seen what the back of the box looks like, there could be more clues hiding! Unregistered - gammaman 08.25.2005 09:02 however even on the core box, that is the green one (in case you did not know) the rings still reach the CORE or the MIDDLE of the circle. Unregistered - max 08.25.2005 09:02 to be honest if i was advetising the 360 i wouldn't show the back of the box thats my opinion though you might be right Unregistered - max 08.25.2005 09:04 why is it called the core Unregistered - max 08.25.2005 09:07 people are saying the first 360s shiped will not have hd dvd drive they will come with normall dvd drives maybe japan will get hd dvd drive in the first batch of 360s thats wahts the countdown is for Unregistered - max 08.25.2005 09:20 hey the thing thats holding up the rabbit looks like a vetically positoned xbox 360 Unregistered - MS 08.25.2005 09:21 "reality is not always the same as real, a generated picture can LOOKS almost the same as a real image, and sometimes a real picture can look as a generated picture..."UT. (35°40´12.18"N) (139°46´10.61"E) One MORE month to go..... patience will pay....NG Unregistered - Matt 08.25.2005 09:29 Those are the cordinates of Tokyo Unregistered - gammaman 08.25.2005 09:31 is his english improper on purpose because it shouls say LOOK Unregistered - gammaman 08.25.2005 09:34 those maybe tokyo coordinates but what gets me is that he again used the letters UT, this must mean something Unregistered - haloman 08.25.2005 09:42 I the above post is legit, the give coordinates are at Tokyo... Unregistered - max 08.25.2005 09:43 Unreal tornament ? Unregistered - max 08.25.2005 09:44 whats ng mean Unregistered - gammaman 08.25.2005 09:46 the tokyo game show takes place in september, yes I know it starts around the 13 and will be well over by the 27 but maybe there is still a connection. Unregistered - max 08.25.2005 09:46 who had the idea the orgenxbox360.com was todo with japan everyone keeps saying orgen is spanish? Unregistered - gammaman 08.25.2005 09:58 when MS gives us a clue, we need to jump on it, we need more participation or we will never figure this out! Unregistered - gammaman 08.25.2005 10:07 if you type in .museum, it takes you to a strange place, normally if you put a wrong extention , like edu, it takes you to something that says (the page can not be displayed), I tried a lot of extentions, and the only one that actually went through was the .museum, try it! Unregistered - Matt 08.25.2005 10:23 In MS's clues he often uses quotes. Why is this, and who are they by? He has used UT at the end of some of these quotes as though UT is a person. Is ths important? Unregistered - JA1230 08.25.2005 10:54 I dont know why, but i think that MS is going to work with Google, the .museum thing is linked to google and Major Nelson is talking to much bout google since last week.... this is a theory.... :-/ Unregistered - ebowers@blueridge.net 08.25.2005 11:09 The rabbit is on the left and the tree has apples? the date is now white. Unregistered - Dan 08.25.2005 11:11 THE SITE HAS CHANGED! 10:56am EST. There is now apples, and the rabit is located on the left site. Also shadows are different. Unregistered - redstorm 08.25.2005 11:13 OMFG HE'S RIGHT!!!, CLICK ON MY NAME!!! Unregistered - EB 08.25.2005 11:17 The shadding on the rabbit seems to be different too. Unregistered - EB 08.25.2005 11:19 The shadding on the rabbit seems to be different too. The tree is bigger and the rabbit is smaller. Unregistered - Orgwangler 08.25.2005 11:19 Apples... and there's a Power PC in there... and it supports iPod... I'm starting to hate this system even more than I thought I could. Unregistered - Dan 08.25.2005 11:19 it seems to me when i look at screen shots of the first tree, that this new one is clearer then the last. Does this mean graphics will be gettign better while it grows, and get older? (the tree grows, apples grow on tree, and the tree is defferent color then first) X360 Grows = better graphics? Maybe? Unregistered - Dallas 08.25.2005 11:20 Look at the bottom of the tree there is a big dark black hole. Unregistered - EB 08.25.2005 11:27 On the left side of the tree at the bottom of the branches there is a stick thing that wasn't there before over the second 0. Unregistered - Matt 08.25.2005 11:28 When you view the source file it calls this flash file "countdown/week-2.swf" suggesting that perhaps the site will change every week. Unregistered - EB 08.25.2005 11:28 First 0, sorry Unregistered - Red 08.25.2005 11:28 The tree seems to be casting a shadow over the rabbit now,making it seem like they are on the same stage as opposed to when we started. Unregistered - Red 08.25.2005 11:32 the guy who much earlier suggested that the tree maybe a Spartan apple tree may have been more on than we thought. HALO...although when I looked into it I could only find a Spartach Apple tree.??????????????? Unregistered - Matt 08.25.2005 11:34 Spartan apple info at http://www.bctree.com/fruit/varieties/spartan.htm Unregistered - hova092 08.25.2005 11:38 THE RABBIT MOVED!!! AND THE TREE IS GOING DOWN A HOLE NOW, WITH FRUIT ON TOP!! WHATS GOING ON!!!!lol Unregistered - Matt 08.25.2005 11:40 Source file calls this flash "countdown/week-2.swf" which means that the site will most likely change every week!!! Unregistered - hova092 08.25.2005 11:40 i was late..lol Unregistered - hova092 08.25.2005 11:43 and whats with the countdown/origen_tease_2_02.JPG in the source? Unregistered - mrs_schalk 08.25.2005 11:46 If you highlight the whole thing there is a shadow under the countdown that resembles writing...or is it just me? Unregistered - haloman 08.25.2005 11:48 Looks like Spartan's are red. I guess we're not getting Halo 3 for Xmas... Unregistered - Lagman83 08.25.2005 11:51 Well when they refer to looks I think they mean the webpage. When they refer to more, I think they mean that there will be more changes to the site before the countdown reaches zero. which kinda makes sense to the other poster stating there is a code on the page that seems to change the pic every week. Looks like you were right red, it was just a shadow. I hang my head in shame now...ok enough of that. I guess this means that there is no payout at the end of this chase, but rather just an announcement that most xbox 360 fans would be waiting for.......All well, this is fun to do anyways. Unregistered - hova092 08.25.2005 11:55 more liek a japanese pear (credit to miraz) http://hp.brs.nihon-u.ac.jp/~kaso/images/japanese_pear.gif Unregistered - Lagman83 08.25.2005 11:57 this is about the post right above my other post. I see the strip too, but it does not translate into any language that I know of. Looks like it is just a random assortment of grey pixels. Wait, one second, WHERE DID MY HOUSE GO?! NOOOOOOOOOOOOO my beautiful home got sucked into the hole!! Unregistered - mrs_schalk 08.25.2005 11:59 Those look just like japanese pears in the tree, they grow sort of round and fat...I'm sure there are images on google.. Unregistered - Matt 08.25.2005 11:59 If the clocks go back an hour in October won't that affect when the timer ends? Unregistered - Dallas 08.25.2005 12:00 Look at this http://img343.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xbox3mh.jpg Note I put this together pretty fast. Let me explain. On the left is the new image from the website and on the right is the old image. Nothing has changed position at all. We are looking at the tree from the back now not the front. Think about that. I have no idea why that is but it makes sense. Unregistered - Matt 08.25.2005 12:05 Forget my last comment about the whole clock going back thing. That was retarted!!! I was thinking Nov. not Sept. Sorry. Unregistered - Dallas 08.25.2005 12:05 That is why the tree looks bright is the fact the the sun is shining on that part making the shadow cast on the opposite side making it darker. Unregistered - haloman 08.25.2005 12:05 Except the post holding the rabbit up has changed to the other side. Unregistered - Matt 08.25.2005 12:07 And the tree is exactly the same in both pictures. Wouldn't it be reversed if we were looking at the back? Therefore we can't be. Unregistered - Dallas 08.25.2005 12:08 If the post changed to the other side wouldn't we see the two little circles from the old image facing us. Unregistered - wincas 08.25.2005 12:08 the rabbit is now nearest the tree, i think they want to create an effect to show us that the hole at the bottom of the tree is eating the tree and the rabbit too. I think those elements will pass to another dimension by the hole. SORRY FOR MY ENGLISHHH, could you understand me?? Unregistered - mrs_schalk 08.25.2005 12:09 It's the same side, the tree would arc to the left if it was the reverse. Matt is right. Unregistered - ErwinKamping 08.25.2005 12:11 "Look at this http://img343.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xbox3mh.jpg Note I put this together pretty fast. Let me explain. On the left is the new image from the website and on the right is the old image. Nothing has changed position at all. We are looking at the tree from the back now not the front. Think about that. I have no idea why that is but it makes sense." i think its not mirrored at all, but it is zoomed in and the tree has been cut somehow... just look at the tree closely :) Unregistered - BraiNSeeker 08.25.2005 12:11 Theres no way that second shot is from behind the tree. Its still from the front if you look. The tree does look different, looks older to me, maybe thats just the lighting. I also think its a Computer generated Image. Thats not a pic of a real tree its a CGI tree. Unregistered - wincas 08.25.2005 12:11 Rings= twister= hole Think about it. Possible is an huracan effect, the tree and the rabbit will disapear trought the hole. Unregistered - EB 08.25.2005 12:11 Am I the only one getting a red background, if so what's wrong with my computer? One other thing, the apple on the left, does it have a small black hole too? Unregistered - Matt 08.25.2005 12:12 The bunny is facing left instead of right, so we're looking at the back of it. So shouldn't we see the post? Unregistered - wincas 08.25.2005 12:13 the tree is not the same, there is a little branch at the left side. Unregistered - Click here to continue the discussion 08.25.2005 12:14 This thread has grown too long, please click the blue link to continue the talk. Unregistered - CoalMine 08.25.2005 18:15 The image has changed! Apples are on the tree, and the rabbit has moved! Unregistered - CoalMine 08.25.2005 18:15 The image has changed! Apples are on the tree, and the rabbit has moved! Unregistered - dai 08.25.2005 19:33 the rabbit looks to be moving away from the tree, ie the back of the rabbit is closer to you and the shadow on the rabbit doesn't match the shadow the tree is casting. The part on the back of the rabbit is lighter when it should be darker, and the head of the rabbit should be lighter but its darker Unregistered - be rabbit 08.25.2005 20:12 TODAY I CHECKED ORIGENXBOX360.COM AND FOUND THAT THE RABBIT IS NOW ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE TREE AND IS HAS MOVED BACK A BIT. ALSO, TWO APPLES OR SOMTHING HAVE APPEARED IN THE TREE. ALSO, THERE IS A BLACK HOLE UNDER THE TREE. I HAVE NO CLUE WHAT IT MEANS!!! ANY SUGGESTIONS???? Unregistered - Johnathon 08.25.2005 22:19 origenxbox360.com, .net, and .org work for getting to this site. But now .org is bringing me to this Google group... And on it, there are clues about trees and nature, go there and look www.origenxbox360.org Unregistered - max 08.26.2005 09:33 whats up with the friggn rabbit??? I think maybe once it hits zero maybe the xbox360 will be out or something like that. Unregistered - max 08.26.2005 09:41 Hey guys do u really think alice has somthing to do with it?? Cuz if u do ur faucked up get a life,alice??? OMG alice come on people!!! Well heres the site if u want to look at it.http://www.origenxbox360.com/There u go but now theres a black hole under the tree and the rabbit is on the other side. Unregistered - max 08.26.2005 09:41 Hey guys do u really think alice has somthing to do with it?? Cuz if u do ur faucked up get a life,alice??? OMG alice come on people!!! Well heres the site if u want to look at it.http://www.origenxbox360.com/There u go but now theres a black hole under the tree and the rabbit is on the other side. Unregistered - carzy 08.26.2005 09:52 I think that each ring on in the tree shows the different media and feature the that xbox360 will offer like : HD era, xbox live, wireless everything. and so forth. that why they keep taking about the center of the experince Unregistered - carzy 08.26.2005 09:52 I think that each ring on in the tree shows the different media and feature the that xbox360 will offer like : HD era, xbox live, wireless everything. and so forth. that why they keep taking about the center of the experince Unregistered - carzy 08.26.2005 09:54 talking about the center the experince Unregistered - carzy 08.26.2005 09:54 talking about the center the experince Unregistered - carzy 08.26.2005 09:54 talking about the center the experince Unregistered - max 08.26.2005 10:27 here u guys go the site if u want to look at it!! By the way if u right click then click zoom in u problay can find something in the trees or numbers or rabbit. yo holla back at me if u find something at mxcltr@yahoo.com kk rember holla back no y'all!!!!!! :) Unregistered - YOYOYOYOYOYO 08.26.2005 10:30 click on my name and it will take u to a really cool place!!! Unregistered - yoyoyoyoyooyyooyyo 08.26.2005 10:32 CLICK ON MY NAME NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Unregistered - annonymous 08.26.2005 10:59 first of all its not ougen..i have checked pictures its Oagen the a was slightly cut off..i m a perfesanlist at these simple ridles.. Unregistered - annonymous 08.26.2005 11:02 its pretty hard to understand at this point...i got this program that speed up a time limit in websites...and i noe wats goin to happen.. im sry i wish i can tell but i cant many ppl will be mad Unregistered - Bryan 08.26.2005 16:47 ^^ HAHAHAHAHAHH what a lie ^^ I can speed up time and nothing will happen because you know why? What supposedly is suppose to happen to the website will not show up because the creators havnt put them there. So STFU about speeding up time and somethings gonna happen. All you have to do is reset your Time in your Computer, the website speeds up their time as well but NOTHING happens. Dont post that kind of garbage ever again. We can see right throuh lies! Unregistered - Slipdeath 08.27.2005 00:50 Try setting your clock back to May 12 when the Xbox 360 was first shown, anything? Unregistered - monkey 08.27.2005 11:15 GOOD GOOD GOOOOOD Unregistered - Daniel 08.27.2005 11:21 thats it, the only thing you will se is that the clock will stop at 0.0.0.0 so, u wont see anything different...i don't know, i was thinking about something, i know ORIGEN means Origin in spanish, but have anybody tryed to find out if ORIGEN means something for the japanesse or the chinese ppl? maybe the word ORIGEN means something important in the asian continent...if anybody know, please post...:D stay tunes, cause this Monday if i was Right in the update #6 we will see a new clue in that page the week-3.swf, the web page was updated last monday 22 at 9:08AM so, STAY TUNE FOR MORE FUN this monday! Unregistered - doesitmatterwhatmynameis 08.27.2005 15:20 Good thinking Daniel. Unregistered - Rudy 08.28.2005 02:01 When u cut a tree in half and look at it from the top u see a bunch of circles resembeling thoughs that are drawn on the 360 boxes. And if u cut the rabbit in half then u see that it looks like a map. It resembles china and japan. So its olmost sertain that it has something to do with japan + the fact that the tree is a bonsie tree, wich only grow in japan. Now its kined of simple from there on. The clock runs out some time in september. And what happens in september? The game show, wich in fact is on the 27 of september. And if ime not mistaken than the clock on origen360.com runs out on september 27. Now whats the only question left to be answered? When is it coming out. And all the clues point tuwards the games show which is going to tell us when it launches. And its olmost surtane that its not going to launch on that day, because as someone already said developers wont have enough time to finish the games. Plus its for sure that its launching sometime in mid November because the online bunddles on gamestop and ebgames.com are launching on November 15. So it has to launch in stores sometime before November 15. Think about it. Unregistered - jase ^_^ 08.28.2005 03:25 X (\(\ B (^.^) O O-( )-O X ('')('') 3 T T 6 (¬'.')¬ ('.') XBOX 360 will blow you away. 0 Unregistered - jase ^_^ 08.28.2005 03:26 NOO it ruined my xbox 360 advertisement >< oh well, it looked cool Unregistered - Boo yah 08.28.2005 03:31 Hey peeps so i gota ask this question how many of u r wearing womens panties right now huh becuase i am and it feels goooooooooooooooooooooooooooood ooo ya Bye Niggas Unregistered - jase ^_^ 08.28.2005 03:34 hey, are you wearing womans panties (xbox 360) [advertisement] Unregistered - Tina 08.28.2005 03:36 so baby what colors r urs huh tell me im so hot i wanna rub my nipple ehhhh!!! Unregistered - jase ^_^ 08.28.2005 03:38 Be careful when rubbing your nipples and blogging in an xbox site ;) (xbox 360)[advertisement] Unregistered - Tina 08.28.2005 03:40 u wanna kno my pantie color ther pink ooops! now ther yelllllllllllllowwwwww!!! awwwwww.... Unregistered - moose 08.28.2005 03:40 yea rubbing ur nipples and typing is bad for ur health Unregistered - Master card 08.28.2005 03:42 For everything else thers masterard. Unregistered - Navarro 08.28.2005 10:46 J].A.E* 11=fun for A,J and E* 9=fun for J not for A or E* I figured something out with this "equation" posted by MS Japan] America. Europe (November) = fun for America, Japan, and Europe* 9 (September)=fun for Japan not for America or Europe* 9 (September) This could definetly mean that the release date for the Core system is in September for Japan only, because J Allard said himself that Japan was a big priority. Then the Premium package will release in November for America, Japan and Europe. I think that's what it means, but I can't figure out any relationship with that and OrigenXbox360.com. Unregistered - Navarro 08.28.2005 10:59 When I went to http://www.appliedlanguage.com , I typed in the word origen to see what it meant in Japanese. It's still the same word, only the "O" in origen is capitalized in the translation. It's also capitalized in the logo of the website. So maybe Origen is actually someone's name or a place? Unregistered - HEY JAKE 08.30.2005 22:45 Unregistered - HEY JAKE 08.30.2005 22:47 WHEN U SCROLL DOWN THIS FAR U SEE BOOBIES JAKE! (o )( .) i know ur mom doesnt like it LOL Unregistered - bitch 08.31.2005 22:20 Unregistered - bitch 08.31.2005 22:20 my nipples r pointy ehhhhhhh!! gimmie more ehhhhhhh!!!! Unregistered - Bryan 09.01.2005 08:37 IT CHANGED IT CHANGED NOW THE RABBIT IS CLOSER TO THE BLACK HOLE. Unregistered - Shortcut 09.01.2005 09:12 Yup, it changed again... item behind rabbit again, more fruit on the tree... any ideas? Unregistered - ANThoney G 09.01.2005 11:43 There will be one more set of apples on the lower left part of the tree. I posted that there would be a total of 3 sets of apples on another site ant they kicked me off. Only time will tell. Unregistered - ANThoney G 09.01.2005 12:20 I wonder what the three sets of fruit represent. A, J, E? again maybe. And does anyone else notice the shadow on the second set of fruit. Looks oval shaped? Anyone?......Anyone? Unregistered - RR 09.01.2005 12:48 In the first placed fruit (the right one) you can see a part of the MSN logo, its on the left one of the 2. If anyone already said this, sorry, cant read all the comments =D Unregistered - Shortcut 09.01.2005 13:22 I think the shadow is just a leaf... Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 09.01.2005 22:31 On the date, Bungie will announce their new title for the Xbox 360. Most likely going to be Oni 2. Carlo210 09.01.2005 22:54 http://www.crownpoint.com/artists/raetz/raetz.pdf#search='Magritte%20rabbit' Magritte (who also painted the picture with the apple in front of the man's face) also created a piece of art known as the Hasenspeigal, or Hare Mirror. It shows two outlines, one of a hare and another of a man wearing a hat, which the artist used wireframe to eventually transform the image of the man into the hare. He comments that "Hares have eyes outside of their skulls, and they can see 360 degrees." Because the piece is like a "mirror image", people see the sculpture as a portrait of a man named Joseph Beuys, as it is recognized that "the hare" is his alter-ego. So then I went off to research this Joseph Beuys fellow, because I evidently had nothing else to do. Some highlights: <<<"Joseph Beuys' most famous performance work is How To Explain Pictures to a Dead Hare (1965), in which he walked around a gallery with his face smeared with honey and covered in gold leaf, carrying a hare to whom he talked, explaining the pictures before them. In his use of the hare, Beuys states: the hare has a direct relation to birth.../For me the hare is a symbol of the incarnation. The hare does in reality what man can only do mentally/.">>> So really I think all of that comes down to the XboX 360 being able to do what the hare can do...or at least for now. But obviously such a boast is not what this entire thing is all about. The entire aesthics of the actual image is what I'm more interested in (ie. the odd shapes of the two bunnies, the two "bolts/holes", the two pairs of apples, and all that stuff), but I strongly feel that this, along with these two individuals, is very important towards reaching the conclusion. Also, the two apples closely resemble one of Magrittes' most popular paintings. It is a painting called 'Binocular View' looking outwards into the horizon with binocular vision. You could say that the two apples hanging side-by-side can resemble the shape you see when looking through binoculars - two circles partially overlapping with an area which merges attributes from the two seperate circles. I am immidiately reminded of the Japanese and North American market becoming one with the launch of MS's new console. Remember guys, this thing has to do with circles. Maybe I'm looking too hard, but I feel like we've just scratched the surface. There are many different things which can be directly or indirectly related to this. Who knows, maybe something which will be discovered in these origen images will have a more direct relation to these two individuals/their theories. -Carlo210 Unregistered - Some Dutch guy 09.03.2005 12:13 Did you notice that there is a hole underneath the tree? Unregistered - The same Dutch Guy 09.03.2005 12:15 There is an MSN logo on the left apple, of the upper two. Unregistered - Dutch Guy 09.03.2005 12:23 The shadow of the tree is bigger then the tree itself it seems like it disappers in the hole. And the leafs are starting to turn more light green. Unregistered - wildcraze 09.03.2005 13:55 in one of the clues the MS guy said this: "Patience is what you need at this time of the year."NG!!! When he says "this time of year" maybe he is refering to fall........and maybe if we wait a little bit the tree's leaves will fall and more clues will be revealed then..........just a thought Unregistered - wildcraze 09.03.2005 13:58 Why does the rabbit have tiger stripes???? Unregistered - wildcraze 09.03.2005 14:07 Found this here http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/646/646071p1.html However, the Xbox 360's media functionality may take a different form in Japan. Without getting too specific, Maruyama reveals that Microsoft is working on technology that uses wireless LAN to allow for some form of house-wide connectivity involving the Xbox 360. He states that this will end up being a big bonus point for the Xbox 360. The company will show the fruits of its labor at the WPC Expo, to be held in Tokyo from 10/26 to 10/29, and hopes on making this technology a part of the Xbox 360 at the end of the year. Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 09.03.2005 15:10 Other sequences of the letters ORIGEN are IGNORE and REGION. Anyone more? Unregistered - Mikado 09.03.2005 21:28 If you look very carefully to the rabbits near the bonsai tree, you'll notice that each rabbit is actually attached to a white pile. This explains the stripes in the skin of the rabbit (it's painted on wood), and the two "buttons" (in fact nails) which keeps the bord onto the pile. Also, when the countdown is completed this picture will be shown: http://www.origenxbox360.com/images/countdown/origen_tease_2_03.jpg You see 2 rabbits in here, one further away from the tree than the other, ready to be hunted down... Unregistered - Sean 09.03.2005 21:59 I dont want to be negative, but i think this is all a hoax, why would MS want to ruin a secret release of Halo 3 or different things you have all said.. I hope you guys are right, but it seems so unrelible.. Once again sorry. Unregistered - Stewis 09.04.2005 06:09 Is it me or are there less leaves on the tree now than on the first tree? are they dropping off because its autum? Unregistered - Bart 09.04.2005 06:34 Go to http://www.ourcolony.net/, and hold your mouse over the orb... looks familiar? :P Unregistered - Navarro 09.04.2005 08:51 yeah the leaves are definetly falling off. Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 09.04.2005 13:00 - you connect the xbox 1, 4 extra power. -a portable console -they are ahead on scedule. -There is a program to mod games. -Remember the nintendo revulution helmet (hoax) -I think its something simpel, like 25 games ready 2 buy GreetzGBG20 Unregistered - 4P0w3r 09.04.2005 14:27 I know what it means. MS is taking over the world on 27th september. Starting to get rid of President Bush (who is living in his own fantasy world>> Alice in Wonderland>> Rabbit) The apples... They combine power with MacIntosh. It's that simpel. With their LIVE package they take over the digital world. The black hole stands for the world at this moment. Terrorists, killing, rape, corruption, nature disasters.. you name it. Face it; this world has become a black hole. The tree is to close the black hole with his roots. So y'all prepare on the 27 th of September. WW III is about to begin ! greetz, B. Gates (and no, I'm not Him) Unregistered - Faraday 09.05.2005 15:17 The right apple from the lower two apples has the new xbox 360 logo in it. The same globe logo that is on the www.xbox360.com frontpage. That logo is also on the new controllers, if you press that logo you will enter the media menu or perhaps xbox live. mrjayman 09.05.2005 18:10 click for image: [url]http://members.home.nl/jayman/mrj_360.jpg[/url] The angry lion's head, the skull, the frame being carried, the grinning human head, the goat, it's all very clear... Igor D 09.06.2005 07:37 I think is see something new in the tree. ON the down left side of the tree in a brench there seemst to be a creature sitting....and in the middle just obove the 2 appels there seems to be another one... I think it looks like an Elf or somthing like that. Unregistered - Bryan 09.06.2005 19:26 Go to the bottom trunk part of the tree....and theres that FAT root to the left. Go zoom in as much as you can on it and a message in Latin will be visible! Unregistered - Federico Cajade 09.06.2005 19:28 Holy Crap if you zoom in all the way into the left side of the tree where that one root on the side of the tree seperates theres a message and it reads "in hoc spatio arbor noster floruit fecundus pomis elvsii ignoti, quo in loco ludent electi, ab originis angelis circumdati." it must be in latin or somtin but i swear to god zoom in and youll find it on the lower left side of the tree on that one root. if some one knows what it says please tell us the supenses is killin me . Unregistered - Federico Cajade 09.06.2005 20:53 if you click with your mouse all the way to the left of the page or right it becomes black and white and the numbers behind the tree become under lined ? i dont know what that means just click a couple of times on the left or right side of the page and and it should turn black and white. Unregistered - ALE 09.06.2005 22:04 it should be something like :" Elvsii (I think it's a group of beings..like "Italians" or "cats" or stuff like that) are unknown in the place where our tree is rich of fruits, they are chosen in the place they play in, they are surrounded by the "Originis angelis" (it's a weird expression.... it probably means "ancient angels"). My latin is getting toooooo old, so ,please, be patient :) Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 09.06.2005 22:18 I had a message above you stating the same thing...... I beat ya to it! Unregistered - federico cajade 09.06.2005 22:25 it took me more time cause i wrote the message on paper then on here and my paragraph is longer so i think i found out just a tad bit before you just some friendly competition soo hah !!!! Unregistered - federico cajade 09.06.2005 22:29 did anyone try the black and white thing i swear it really works just keep clicking on the left or right side and it should turn the page black and white try it. Unregistered - Anonymous 09.07.2005 04:26 Anyone noticed that the image changed? There are now 2 rabbits, and something growing from the tree. Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 09.07.2005 09:01 Yeah, yesterday it changed to two rabbits and three pairs of fruit. But today, it's back to two pairs and one rabbit back where he was. Unregistered - Jaap 09.07.2005 10:57 Just a moment ago a little piece of ear was visible of the face that was discovered ealier at the root of the tree. Now it's gone again. Unregistered - Bryan 09.07.2005 12:11 It changed back on ym screen. And BTW I beat ya to it 1103!!! SO HA!!! suck it! And your clicking on the left of the page is just Higlighting the whole image you fool! Your not doing anything special, Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 09.07.2005 16:22 there r xbox 360's behind the rabbits has any 1 noticed i put this comment on b 4 then it dissapeared Unregistered - ALE 09.07.2005 16:55 cannot see any hidden 360 at all Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 09.07.2005 18:30 I don't see 360's...but why did it change back????? i really don't get it!!! Unregistered - Lil_Bunny_Girl 09.08.2005 01:11 I'm sure this has probably been said before since there are so many comments in here...but I guess I'll put in my two cents anyway. Perahps the misspelling of origin has something to do with generation, as in "next gen" systems. Or maybe it has some kind of meaning in Japanese... I've been looking through my Japanese dictionary, and the word ori can either mean cage/cell, or occasion/oppurtunity/time. The latter of the two seems to make more sense, so I'd go with that. As for gen, by itself it just means the string of a musical instrument, but it is the begining and end of several words. I'm gonna keep looking into it to see if I can come up with anything relevant. Unregistered - Shortcut 09.08.2005 08:53 The sit changed back to 2 rabbits and 3 fruits again... and the writing is back on the root... Unregistered - Anonymous 09.08.2005 18:15 you guys probably could already tell this but when you look at the new picture and do what one of the earlier posts tell u....to click on the uper right or left corners...which on my screen turns the backround blue...but where people have said there is water...if you look this area has shadows in it...so doesn't tat mean it isn't a shadow...try it Unregistered - Anonymous Ass 09.09.2005 12:34 I found this, http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Origenxbox360 It looks interesting. Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 09.09.2005 14:08 THERES 3 RABBITS AND 5 FRUITS!! Unregistered - Masturbate my nose 09.09.2005 14:11 This is probaly old but that apple with the chunk missing is the same shape as the msn messenger logo! Unregistered - federico cajade 09.09.2005 17:38 msn messanger logo ? maybe this means you will be able to go online with the 360 ? just a geuss anyways. but i doubt they would do this big countdown just to tell us you can go web browsing with it and microsoft would be to proud and tell everyone it can web browse whatever just a thought. Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 09.09.2005 17:51 listen im Here at ms studios And im in a hurry so Listen when the countdown is Over it will reveal 3 pictures..................just kidding idk myabe screen shots of halo 3 reveald to the public for the first time. Unregistered - Demian 09.09.2005 19:51 I think the site is about the Xbox store in Tokyo. I believe they are going to open the store on September 27th. I also believe they are doing something similar to what Apple did with the Apple Store in Ginza. You know, "Origen", the Origin, the ORIental GENeration, just a pun... Also, if you see the pics of the future store, there's a hole right there, as in the site (funny coincidence). The tree is also a visual pun, the circles=the Xbox logo. The fruits=?. Maybe the tree (the bonsai, a japanese tree) is the first (origin) store in Tokyo and the fruits (seeds) the following stores in other countries and/or continents. I don't know what's the rabbit role in this context. And don't know why the chose cardboard (or wood) figures instead of real rabbits (the tree's a real one). Unregistered - The Light 09.10.2005 16:36 Ok everyone, here it is, the biggest find you'll have ever seen, zoom in all the way, on the lower-left part of the tree you'll see a small bit of root sticking out in a semi-circle, written on it is a string of some sort of romance language (Latin(?)). Have fun with this, e-mail me at C_W_Schwarz@yahoo.com if you find anything. Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 09.10.2005 16:58 Head on up to message 1103. This is not new info. Thanks anyways. Unregistered - Krunch 09.10.2005 19:22 If you zoom into the bottom left of the tree on the stump that sticks out their are words written. my friend seems to think that it is in more than one language and has a base of Romance Latin. Check it out this could be a very helpful clue Unregistered - Origen 09.10.2005 20:30 The End is near and the GEARS have slowed.The War has stopped but the thirst for Knowledge continues. Unregistered - NOFX 09.10.2005 20:34 wow this is just like "ILoveBees" if any of u did that. Great ideas so far guys. Im stumped. You guys are awesome. p.s wtf does the last comment mean? Unregistered - beetnick55 09.11.2005 01:05 Here's my two cents: I don't think any of you considered that maybe MS was planning on having HD DVD the whole time, and just decided to announce it when they did. What sense would it make for them NOT to have EITHER HD or Blu-Ray? They're not stupid... Also, Bill Gates said himself "The day Sony launches [the new PlayStation], they walk right into Halo 3." Case closed. End speculation. Finally, it seems like almost all of you overlooked the following URL: http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/7265/gamem8ker9gc.png Look at the "3 6 0" spaced out, then the "11 25" at the bottom, meaning 11/25: November 25th. The other text is all written backwards. They say: "The answer is staring you in the face." and "The answer lies in the url." and "The power comes from within." I don't know what all the chinese/japanese characters mean, can someone translate them? The main goal is to try to figure out what the URL is supposed to be unscrambled to. I thought the "neguo" should be "ougen" but I don't know. If anyone can figure out anything else, please post! :) Unregistered - FDay 09.11.2005 08:44 In this place may our fertile tree bloom with fruits in strange Elysium, where in the place of the chosen, angels surround the origin. Unregistered - Tho 09.11.2005 09:30 good stuff here..getting hard to keep up with all this Unregistered - Craig Schwarz 09.11.2005 16:04 Post 1131 is the translation of the Latin phrase. Unregistered - Craig Schwarz 09.11.2005 16:14 I found a Wikipedia Article on an early Christian Theologian named "Origen", born in Alexandria, a Greek city. For those of you who don't know, Elysium was the ancient Greek version of a heaven where the valorous and horoic went. I didn't read the article but I hope this helps. Unregistered - Craig Schwarz 09.11.2005 16:15 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origen is the Wikipedia page, I really think this has something to do with it, as it mentions angels and also the Elysium Fields. Unregistered - Anonymous 09.11.2005 17:47 if you read message 1123 and put toghether all the capitalized letters including the number 3 starting with the word (Here) it spells out halo 3 hhmmmm intresting ? Unregistered - Origen 09.11.2005 23:12 Kill for Insomnia, Leave for Living. Eternal fights for the Right. Instinct is obvious. Not for Soul but for The Inner Negative Cold of Terror.3 times is shameful but 3 more is a lead, if it all were depleted there would surley be nothing. Unregistered - bass extrodinare 09.11.2005 23:41 wtf? Unregistered - bass extrodinare 09.11.2005 23:41 wtf? Unregistered - Blue Angel Says; Reasoning BS... 09.12.2005 07:07 The capitals spell out KILLER INSTINCT 3.... Word up... Just someone with 2 much time on his hands... MY2P Unregistered - Craig Schwarz 09.12.2005 16:15 Yeh it deffinetly is, same guy who did the Halo 3 thing I bet.. lol.. Unregistered - federico cajade 09.12.2005 21:05 the guy who did the HALO 3 thing is me i just forgot to put my name in the box if you look at the comment above the HALO 3 thing it says my name federico cajade but i didnt write the killer instinct one but whoever did copied my idea ! Unregistered - Anonymous Cow 09.12.2005 21:46 right.. so what is up with this site, micosoft is trying t get s interested so we buy it. its just some stupid countdown... Unregistered - federico cajade 09.12.2005 22:45 yes true a stupid countdown that obviously has taken over many minds i think it was smart of ms to do this it gets us thinkin of the 360 and makes us keep wondering and logging on to see any changes so i geuss you can call the countdown stupid but arent you just as stupid for commenting on it and if its so stupid how come you care so much to write about how stupid it is.............dont worry its taken alot of peoples minds including yours you stupid person. Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 09.13.2005 14:39 i wrote 1113 and there r xboxes behind the rabbits look underneath them some1 alot higher up said that it was cardboard but i think it looks like an xbox 360 Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 09.13.2005 14:47 1016 bout da writin i no wat u mean but if u zoom it is jus a line Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 09.13.2005 16:13 What about what the guy said in 1130? Did anyone figure it out??? Unregistered - Bsmurray338 09.14.2005 02:38 I have a few things to add that were probly already said. First i agree with what WES said in post # 51 however if 11 = fun for America, Japan, & Europe and 9 = Fun for JAPAN ONLY that would eliminate alot of the stuff we've guessed so far. Another thing is that in post 27 MS stated " (important) NG " now i know that some have said this stands for Next Gen as in Next Genoration Systems however it could stand for other things. I Googled this and found NG to be the Stock Abreation for NOVAGOLD RESOURCES. (More in-deph about them click http://www.novagold.net/s/Home.asp) . Anyway then i tried NG Microsoft and the # 1 result was: a chat room with a link (the link: http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/biztech/02/19/microsoft.source.ap/index.html) . anyway next would have to be the "time to TIME" comment from MS has anyone cheacked the numbers? or times of day? some one email me i'm making a team (WES WE NEED YOU!!!!) bsmurray338pctech@yahoo.com Unregistered - Dave Ford 09.14.2005 08:47 <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd xhtml 1.0 transitional//en" "http://www.w3.org/tr/xhtml1/dtd/xhtml1-transitional.dtd"> <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en" lang="en"> <head> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1" /> <title>Origen Xbox 360</title> <script language="javascript"> //parameters for flash movie and backup image var iWidth = "983"; var iHeight = "578"; var strFlashFile = "countdown/week-4_with_latin.swf"; var strBackupFile = "countdown/origen_tease_2_04.JPG"; var strFlashId = "countDown"; </script> <script language="javascript"> function checkFlashForIE() { document.write('<scr'+'ipt language="vbscript"\>\n'); document.write('on error resume next\n'); document.write('FlashInstalled = (IsObject(CreateObject("ShockwaveFlash.ShockwaveFlash.'+FlashVersion+'")))\n'); document.write('</scr'+'ipt\>\n'); } </script> <script language="javascript" src="/library/js/displayFlash.js"></script> </head> <body bgcolor="#ffffff" leftmargin="0" topmargin="0"> <center> <script language="javascript"> document.write(strOutput); </script> </center> </body> </html> Unregistered - Dai 09.14.2005 22:09 seems to be dieing down here..or is tehre another board somewhere Unregistered - Shortcut 09.15.2005 07:51 So it has changed again, two rabbits 'hares'-one on either side of the tree, a fourth set of fruit, the latin writing is gone. Nothing else I noticed on first glance... rjbw110708 09.15.2005 09:50 i was bored and i remember a comment about splitting the image in half so i put it into a photoshop type program and i drew a line right above the end of the trunk that we can see. Also if you zoom in on the picture you see a line already pretty much drawn for you. But anyways....if you flip the image upside down and look at it...you can distinctly see a person sitting down playing a game system. could just be me but what do you think? Unregistered - Anonymous Cow 09.15.2005 15:14 THERES 8 APPLES AND THE RABBITS ARE ON DIFFERENT SIDES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Unregistered - Anonymous Cow 09.15.2005 15:14 THERES 8 APPLES AND THE RABBITS ARE ON DIFFERENT SIDES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Unregistered - Anonymous Cow 09.15.2005 15:14 THERES 8 APPLES AND THE RABBITS ARE ON DIFFERENT SIDES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Unregistered - Anonymous Cow 09.15.2005 15:14 THERES 8 APPLES AND THE RABBITS ARE ON DIFFERENT SIDES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Unregistered - Anonymous Cow 09.15.2005 15:14 THERES 8 APPLES AND THE RABBITS ARE ON DIFFERENT SIDES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Unregistered - Anonymous Cow 09.15.2005 15:15 THERES 8 APPLES AND THE RABBITS ARE ON DIFFERENT SIDES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Unregistered - Anonymous Cow 09.15.2005 15:15 THERES 8 APPLES AND THE RABBITS ARE ON DIFFERENT SIDES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Unregistered - smartguy101 09.15.2005 17:16 I just wondered why some people are seeing thse updates and other are not because i havent seen anything and other people are posting about the rabbits moving....did it switch bac or somthing?? Unregistered - TIKKY TANG 09.15.2005 17:25 Those new apples look like they have upside down smiley faces on them. lol. Unregistered - FAT MIKE 09.15.2005 20:19 the new apples dangling look like balls. As in male reproductive system balls. Sick fucks at microsoft....they disgust me! lol Unregistered - Anonymous Cow 09.15.2005 21:26 Thats their job. Unregistered - Krunchy 09.16.2005 16:07 The words are gone the one on the lower part of the tree, they are now gone Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 09.17.2005 04:52 well it definitley isnt the launch details ms announced that it will be nov 22 in us dec 2 in europe dec 10 in japan Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 09.17.2005 04:56 i cant really think of any good launch games that are coming out on the 360 the new ghost recon looks real but they arent really my game style i prefer shooters lyk halo and perfect dark lucks crap Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 09.17.2005 11:43 Something is going to change when it hits 10 00 00 00!!!!! Unregistered - Anonymous Cow 09.17.2005 12:01 10 00 00 00!!!!!!!!!!!!! WOAH CHECK IT OUT!!! ps- the background if you dubble click the corner is black, not blue anymore. Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 09.17.2005 19:52 well like posted earlier with the announcement of the release dates thats one big theory knocked down. There is still the major one left...maybe a 360/Revolution of sorts. Noticed how the pictures of the Rev lately and the controller are both white...maybe Rev will at least work on xboxlive and able to play against xbox360 owners...naah that can't be it though Unregistered - Navarro 09.18.2005 20:53 Did you guys see the Revolution controller? It's insane. Unregistered - Anonymous Cow 09.19.2005 15:31 ya, the nintendo rev controler is so cool. im getting it Unregistered - Anonymous Cow 09.19.2005 15:31 ya, the nintendo rev controler is so cool. im getting it Unregistered - Craig Schwarz 09.19.2005 16:34 Wow.. are you kidding? It looked like a novelty kiddie toy to me. Unregistered - Navarro 09.19.2005 20:01 Dude go to www.ign.com and search for the Revolution controller. It's the best controller for any console yet. It's motion sensitive so to tilt the screen you tilt the controller. It's gonna be the best controller for years. Unregistered - Anonymous Theory 09.21.2005 02:15 "upon this to stoll tree our to be distinguished for fertile pomis elvsii unknown , from upon to place ludent amber , counting from origin angel circumdati." thats an online translation of the Latin. "angel circumdati" is most definitely a Halo i would say... meaning this whole thing is about Halo. "distinguished for fertile pomis elvsii unknown" i guess would be "determined to be fertile for unknown evil" "from upon to place ludent amber" hmmmm, "coming from above with golden light to make everything brownish yellow"? that i struggle with but suggest a large bomb to flatten earth. So, here is my assumption based on the whole thing... Something to do with Halo 3 and xbox360 based on the website... but i don't think it is the third one... i think it is a port of Halo 2 (maybe known as Halo 2 Gold) that has bumped up graphics for the 360 due to the 'coming to earth thing' that happened in Halo 2... i would also suggest that it will be compatible across live with the existing copies of Halo 2 on xbox that are already out there. This would be a game available on launch (think about it from a marketing point of view... the game would be easy to make because it would only need graphics scaling, the xbox360 hardware would be underutilised running it... early adopters of the original xbox still love Halo so you need one available at launch but Halo3 is some time away). That is my thinking... the xbox360 is behind the rabbit/hare. i am a marketer and i think: - they needed to launch the site early enough for awareness to build - they needed to keep changing it to ensure those who veiwed it would come back for the announcement - they have been reading the boards and adding and removing things to generate CONVERSATION and EXCITEMENT rather than giving clues. - we'll all be here on that day (it is in my calendar)! - this is great work. Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 09.21.2005 08:18 this is just confusin how am i still meant 2 wait 4 five more days the suspense is killin me .............not really it is probs jus halo 1& 2 doubble pack on da 360 wif betta graphics and ............ wait i jus thought it s halo rememba da stuff about the rings there are rings in halo 7 of dem i belive yey halo 3 r sumink r nufink lyk wateva Unregistered - TRIKY 09.21.2005 23:14 IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HALO 3! Reasons why: The site name is origen XBOX360 .com, not origen Halo 3 .com Have you read the clues? ITS ABOUT JAPAN! The japanese hated halo 2, why would they care about halo 3? Finally, you got the translation wrong. Look on the main page, it says what it means. You shall see Unregistered - TRIKY 09.21.2005 23:15 IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HALO 3! Reasons why: The site name is origen XBOX360 .com, not origen Halo 3 .com Have you read the clues? ITS ABOUT JAPAN! The japanese hated halo 2, why would they care about halo 3? Finally, you got the translation wrong. Look on the main page, it says what it means. You shall see Unregistered - TRIKY 09.21.2005 23:15 IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HALO 3! Reasons why: The site name is origen XBOX360 .com, not origen Halo 3 .com Have you read the clues? ITS ABOUT JAPAN! The japanese hated halo 2, why would they care about halo 3? Finally, you got the translation wrong. Look on the main page, it says what it means. You shall see Unregistered - Navarro 09.22.2005 20:58 how often does the site change the image? Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 09.23.2005 10:44 this site is gettin borin but only 4 days to go yey whoo hooray neway i agree in thinking it is halo b cos if sum guy from bungie @ the tokyo game show said there may b a few surprises and he mentioned sumthin bout halo 2 and the 360 so fingers crossed we might have the third halo installment some time early next year Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 09.23.2005 10:49 there are xbox 360's behind the rabbits its obvios r ppl blind r sumink Unregistered - federico cajade 09.24.2005 17:10 they are not xbox 360's there post holding up the wooden rabbits you nimrod !!!! Unregistered - FEDERICO CAJADE 09.25.2005 17:22 its wierd cuz if you have a psp (play station portable) like me i just upgraded it to a 2.0 and you go on the web with it i went to origenxbox360.com on the psp and the timer shows all zeros like this 00:00:00 its wierd i dont understand it but whatever just given out info ! Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 09.25.2005 18:52 are there more boards on this topic..I konw when it first started one board got about 1000+ topics and another was around..link to more if there are Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 09.25.2005 18:52 are there more boards on this topic for this site..I know when it first started one board got about 1000+ topics and another was around..link to more if there are Unregistered - ThE DoN 09.26.2005 14:23 I belive its got nnothing to do with halo 3 at all i believe that another package of the xbox 360 will be relased (look at core unit making up 90 degrees, the premium making up 180 degrees, but not 360, plus the one of the clues said it has aomething to do with the circles!!!) wether it will be released in japan only or released in japan first and then U.K and America at a later date im not sure but i would bet on this. Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 09.26.2005 15:17 who called me a retard it is xbox 360's behind the rabbits and neway ur da retard u retard they r 360's cos i sed so and wat i say is true rite Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 09.26.2005 15:19 the psp thing that is because u need macromedia flash player r sumink like that to make the site work i also have a question 4 evry 1out there has ne1 been on the origen syt while an update happened or does it not show up straight away Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 09.26.2005 15:24 da 360 rocks yey 360 decemba is gonna kick ass Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 09.26.2005 15:25 NIMROD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 09.26.2005 16:03 i like pudding Unregistered - FEDERICO CAJADE 09.26.2005 17:17 ok if you heard ms said its like a gamers paradise blah...blah...blah whatever they also said somtin about a race for european gamers i swear if this website was to tell us theres a new xbox store opening up or an xbox store reaveald in europe im gonna be so fuckin pissed all these days wondering and all this shit for somtin stupid like a store in europe or n.y or japan im in fuckin florida what the hell is it good to us in florida or utah or oklahoma or anywhere if its a store in europe,ny,or japan whatever Micro Soft if your reading this youd better think of somthin else to reveal for this site or when i get my xbox 360 wich i pre-orderd right when they hand it to me im gonna say here take it back give me store credit and start payin off for my PS3 dont get me wrong im a hard-core xbox fan/player but if its a new store location im gonna lose all fate in MS sorry . Unregistered - Navarro 09.27.2005 14:43 the entire idea of the Origen site is for gamers to enter a damn contest for a chance to win a spot at an Xbox 360 show. All this hype over some bullshit. Unregistered - Craig Schwarz 09.27.2005 15:25 Lol, I can't believe it, I guess every single "clue" released was just to catch our attention, and then all of a sudden they hit us with some gay contest. ^^ Unregistered - Krunchy 09.27.2005 15:40 I waited, and waited. I followed every move of the sight, I sought to discover the meaning of every clue. I was so excited. Till 12:00 PM today... A contest! no one would have expected that. It's quite bizarre. All I might say is that I am disappointed, and that Microsoft is a marketing genius. Think about the thousands and thousands talking about this site. Also there is no American flag. Why? Does this make Americans exempt from this contest? I hope not... And lastly, what happens as the other fruit ripens... All in good time TheKrunchy1 Unregistered - WTF 09.27.2005 20:47 I KNOW! NBO AMERICAN FLAG WTF IS THIS SHIT?! I THOUGHT THERE WOULD AT LEAST BE ROBOTS TAKEING OVER THE WORLD..BUT NOOOOO OMG WTF WTF WTF WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Unregistered - Navarro 10.17.2005 14:55 The last pair of fruit will most likely include the U.S. Add Comment |
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