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Elder Scrolls Oblivion Becomes Mature
04 May 2006 05:57 | planetxbox360 | Xbox 360
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Both the PC and Xbox 360 versions of the Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion have been re-rated to M by the Entertainment Software Rating Board (the ESRB).



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Smokey 05.04.2006 08:19
I have a feelin Hillary Clinton had sumthin to do with this

2 - umm, no....
Islandkiwi 05.04.2006 08:30
The ESRB had everything to do with this. But the topless thing is a mod, the developers had nothing to do with it. If developers get punished for what mods do, then developers will stop making it easy to produce mods.

3 - Spoilers in this comment: I kinda figured something was wrong.
Unregistered - dood 05.04.2006 09:17
It wasn't the nude mod that made me wonder about its rating...

Spoiler:

When you are nearing the end of the Dark Brotherhood quest line, the other members of the blackhand turn against Lucien Lachance, tie him up, hang him upside down from the rafters of a cottage, and tortured him to death. The gory remains of his naked body (private areas viciously removed) and blood & guts all over the cottage, I started to wonder. When I talked to every member of the Black Hand who participated in this "Purification" they simply described the joy they had and how much Lachance suffered and screamed during the mutilation.

I started to giggle, and I had to check out the rating on the game box and it said T for Teen. Wow, so the ESRB doesn't consider this level of sadistic gore to be Mature? Awesome!

Well... evidently not anymore.


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asdf 05.04.2006 10:49
#3

Wow, somehow I missed his mutilated body... Guess I'll have to do it all over again! ;)


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asdf 05.04.2006 11:29
and here's an idea: let's just call EVERY GAME in which there are human forms that can be made naked by hacking into the game's code mature! Brilliant. At least if they go this way, the rating system will become utterly and completely irrelevant, and, as it has no legal force, we can all just ignore it.

6 - M is well deserved guys
Unregistered - speed 05.04.2006 12:02
yeah, I remember the tied up ripped apart body as well, pretty nasty. as a parent, I agree this deserves an M rating. Also considering that the average American child will have watched 100,000 acts of televised violence, including 8,000 murders, by the time he or she finishes the sixth grade, I would say that we have a serious issue overall in the US with violence in tv, movies, and games. we need to understand what this does to a young mind, the desensitization to crime and violence and the questioning of ones own moral/value system that happens as a result. the responsibility lies squarely on the parents, not on any sort of rating system. parents need to wake the hell up and realize whats happening to their kids IMHO.

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Unregistered - u 05.04.2006 12:03
I am going to name my d!ck hillary . and then Im going to beat it

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Unregistered -   05.04.2006 14:47
There's nothing wrong with being desensitized to violence. It's our actions that cause problems. I'm EXTREMELY desensitized, yet I've never considered violence as a solution to a problem.

9 - understandable
Unregistered - unregged 05.04.2006 14:58
I'm guessing it also has to do with the mutilated baby bodies you occasionally come across throughout the game, as well as one assassin's "lighthearted" recounting of a job where he murdered a six year old girl.

10 - meh
Unregistered - 05.04.2006 15:36
This game is not violent or sexual enough. No blood, no chopping up of body parts, nobody so much as flirts with your character even after you save all of Cryodiil. But a handful of scenes ruin it and get the game an M rating. For an M rating, give me some goddamn blood and boobs. How am I going to continue my streak of violence and murdering in real life without video games to feed it!?

11 - to # 8
Unregistered - speed 05.04.2006 16:46
sincerely sorry to hear that...

especially referring to children - desensitization to violence makes one less sensitive to the pain/suffering of others leading to apathy, makes one less trusting of the world around them, and can increase violence towards others

it is naive to believe repeated exposure to murder/rape/violence does not have negative effects on a young impressionable mind...this is psychology 101


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asdf 05.04.2006 20:08
#11
In fact, if you'd actually taken psychology 101, you'd learn that studies have shown that it's cartoon violence, the sort that depicts violence without consequences to the victim (think Tom and Jerry), that tends to make kids more violent. If the consequences are shown (as in people dying when you shoot them), then kids become less likely to be violent.


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asdf 05.04.2006 20:17
don't get me wrong, though, my posts up above (the first two, not the last) were sarcastic: I'm all for providing consumers with more information about the product, and I think that, if a parent wants to be able to control the content that his/her children have access to, they ought to be able to do so. I just doubt that the nudity thing is a good justification (the mutilated corpses would probably be a MUCH better one), and I think that if the ESRB continues down this path, they're risking irrelevance. A rating system is good, but if it has a poor reputation, then it's completely useless.

14 - xbox360
Unregistered - xbox360 05.04.2006 22:04
WHAT THE FU@K!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Unregistered - g 05.05.2006 00:43
Dr spock go screw yourself it's just a game .dont be so retarded .

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Unregistered - f 05.05.2006 00:52
#9 10 11 12 13 go f@ck yourself this is just a game. not a life changing event you guys need to pull your heads out of your a$$es .and lighten up

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asdf 05.05.2006 12:23
read my comments, schmuck. I didn't say it should be banned or anything, I merely stated that the ratings provide valuable information to consumers, who may or may not choose to act on it. I would suspect that *some* people bought DOAX because, rather than in spite of, the "M" it got for non-existant nudity. If parents want to be able to control their kids' games, I don't see a problem with that. I DO see a problem with the government trying to control everyone's games, which is why I'm glad the ESRB ratings don't have any legal force.

18 - ESRB is very poor and untrustworthy.
Trickedbullet 05.06.2006 10:22
On many occassions I have gone through my games and wondered what the hell those guys were thinking when they rated it. They rate lots of mature games with a teen rating and loads of teen games with a mature rating. Like Halo. Why does it have a blood and gore rating when there is no gore, only blood. It has a mature rating but Mercenaries, Ghost Recon 2, and even Operation Flashpoin only have Teen ratings. I dont get the whole anti blood thing. If you can be an assassin and kill people, then why cant I have blood. The battlefields of WW2 also were not so clean and well, CLEAN!

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