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25 May 2006 08:11 | Swifty | Revolution Xbox360News.com | Link to this article 
Many were shocked to see that both Microsoft and Sony were promoting Nintendos new Wii after E3. It seems Moore has yet again told gamers that you should buy the Wii, he has even said he himself will be purchasing one. Its almost as if Sony and Microsoft are scared of the Wii, but that can't be true, can it?
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Xbox 360 & Wii, you don't need anything else!Unregistered - bernie g 05.25.2006 08:37 I think as a gamer both Nintendo and Microsoft have gone in completely different directions and I for one am going to buy both. Sony on the other hand seem to be stealing idea's from both camps and then charging anyone dumb enough to pay. I have to be honest though, looking across the net and chatting with friends, Sony have lost a lot of their followers this time around. 2 -
Swifty 05.25.2006 08:39 agreed ^^^ I mean seing Miyamoto and Iwata on Wii tennis sealed the deal for me the Wii is a must buy for any true gamer 3 -
Smart business plain and simpleUnregistered - Darktangent 05.25.2006 08:47 Research has shown that most households only have room for two systems. With M$ and Sony batteling for the top honors, each choosing to promote the Wii, means that Wii adopters will have to make a concious choice to back one of the powerhorse systems. I think that Wii games will go off on their own paths and games that are multi-system releases will be more different on the Wii than they would be between the 360 and PS3 making given your more reason to purchase it for the higher end system for all of the pretty colors and sounds. So gamers with 360+Wii=bye bye Cg3 oops PS3. 4 -
Unregistered - greenlynxx 05.25.2006 08:50 The Wii is a fad and not worth the money their asking for it. The Wii controller is a great idea if it actually worked the way they are promoting it. In reality it falls far short of the hype. If when using the controller it exactly imitated my movements then I would be all over it. The reality is that it only translates generic responses, block up, block right etc. That is a joke. I can use my dual analog controller and get a faster and more acurate response. And look at the game Red Steel, the cross hairs in that game are enormous. I thought the reason I was getting the Wii controller was to improve acuracy and not the opposite. No, I will not be getting a Wii until the technology clearly shows its superiority over MS's controller. 5 -
Unregistered - greenlynxx 05.25.2006 08:59 Nintendo and MS have not gone in completely different directions that's just what Nintendo wants you believe. All I hear is how innovative Nintendo is but that is clearly bunk. There are two problems with that statement. The first problem is that it is untrue. Where are all the game cube games that were so innovative and going in "completely different" directions than MS or Sony? That's right, none. The second problem is that innovation doesn't neccessarily mean good games. Even if there were all these great innovative games on the Game Cube, which there weren't, then why didn't the thing sell? The only thing Nintendo has is an underpowered system and an overhyped controller that looks to fall significantly below hype. I think that initially the Wii (what a stupid name) will sell well. But it will quickly go the same way that all the other attempted add on controllers will go, away. 6 -
^^^Disagree^^^Unregistered - Mo 05.25.2006 09:20 One reason: Smash Bros. That's the main reason for buying the gamecube, and the main reason I'm buying a Wii too. 7 -
Thats just the pointUnregistered - Darktangent 05.25.2006 09:22 Initially the Wii will sell well (boy say that three times fast). That just the point, a hot selling Wii takes that second console spot in the home that research shows that the average gamer only has room for two systems. That means that by the time two or three years has passed and Wii owners possibly have seen the fallacy in their purchase, M$ has had the luxury of your hard earned money going more to them and 360 games than if the PS3 had been your second system. 8 -
Smart MoveUnregistered - Ric Hard 05.25.2006 09:23 It's very smart of Mr Moore to do this. Not only for the two systems in a household move. But Sony lately have been digging a grave for themselves with trying to force people to have their new Blu Ray technology. What happens if Blu Ray fails then we are stuck with an expensive system. Also the pricing of the PS3, ofcourse some people are going to buy it but not as many as Sony hopes for with that type of price tag and last but not least is the Law they are trying to pass that stores are not allowed to sell used games. To me that is a big turn off. How many MADDENS I suppose to keep because I am not allowed to sell my game. If there is a time for MS to jump on Sony, now is the time. Great move from Peter Moore in supporting the Wii. 9 -
haloalldaylo 05.25.2006 10:57 I will only say this Sony sux! 10 -
I am not convinced with the Wii yet...Moostache 05.25.2006 11:05 I am an "older" gamer (35) and I just can't get too excited by Wii yet. My favorite game (by a mile) is Madden and every year I play that game from August until May online, but I just can't see how the Wii controller is going to work too well in Madden. I guess if I see a demo in store this fall and can actually try it out and it floors me that I will sing a different tune. I owned an XB and a PS2 last gen and truth be told, my XB got far less play than my PS2. However, I absolutely love my 360 and I can't see a compelling enough reason at this point to drop $600 on a PS3 and another $200 on a Wii plus another $300-400 for accessories and games. That would be a grand total of nearly $1500 to get the other systems and I would ratehr own the following list of different 360 games for that same money (actually quite a bit less)over the next year to 18 months: Rainbow Six : Vegas NCAA Football 2007 Madden NFL 2007 Splinter Cell : Double Agent Gears of War Lost Planet Mass Effect Bioshock Resident Evil 5 GTA IV F.E.A.R. Call of Duty 3 Medal of Honor : Airborne Brotehrs in Arms : Hell's Highway Alan Wake and of course Halo 3. I could afford to do both (buy those games and extra consoles) if I wanted to, but the fact is that I just do not see a compelling enough reason to do so. Graphically the games on 360 and PS3 are close enough that I choose to buy more games for a single console (and wait for used PS3's to be selling at 1/2 price on Ebay in 2008) than to buy multiple consoles and spilt my gaming money between several systems. I fully appreciate that others feel differently and I encourage them to do whatever they want with their money. 11 -
Unregistered - shotty 05.25.2006 11:07 Imagine a xbox 360 and a wii for the same price as a ps3. That way you get all the mainstream games like Halo, Gears of War, GTA 4, Splinter Cell, the whole HD experience and xbox live and then with the wii you got that motion sensing controller with those old school titles. 12 -
Moostache 35 Hey!!Unregistered - Ric Hard 05.25.2006 11:21 Well god bless you. I'm in the same neighborhood as you with age. I just turned 37. I have to say I am a real old gamer (Atari 2600 anyone) . As for the Madden with the Wii. I heard that you move your arm back to get ready to throw the ball and move it forward with the controller to release. Which should give the game a more football type feel. Then with the receiver after the catch you move one controller up and down to run and with the other hand use the controller to move the receiver around the field. Don't quote me on it. It's just what I heard. 13 -
What ifUnregistered - famo 05.25.2006 12:10 What if MS and Nintendo teamed up and sold both consoles as a package deal. A 360 AND Wii for 600$ w/ GOW and Smash Bros.... That would kill Sony.. I wouldnt count that idea out eigther. Then they advertise buy 2 consoles for the price of 1. Man that is genious!!! I think I might have to call old Peter up and tell him of this idea..lol... Sony would be crushed for sure!! 14 -
YES IT DOES SEEM LIKE A SMART MOVEUnregistered - MIKE 05.25.2006 12:16 even sony are copying this from ms one ps3 or a 360/wii for the same price as a ps3 id say super monkey ball would work well on the wii but im not sure about anything else 15 -
#13 FamoUnregistered - Ric Hard 05.25.2006 12:25 That doesn't seem off. One time MS ask Nintendo if they were willing to sell the company. What if that deal is going to happen and people find out that the Wii is actually a addon to the 360 and thats why Mr Moore is supporting it. Look at the Wii. It really don't look like a stand alone system. How smart would a deal like that be. MS with The Big N in japan will destroy the PS3 completely. It would be crazy. But logical for both companies. Now let the rumor fly. 16 -
Unregistered - pRo loGic II 05.25.2006 12:42 #4 i agee with you, the Wii will be a fluke craz but will get old really fast. 17 -
Unregistered - CM2007 05.25.2006 15:57 Do you think Peter likes cookies? I wonder if endorses any... 18 -
#5 GreenlynxxUnregistered - Hokatsu 05.25.2006 16:04 Oh come on, the possibilities are endless with the Wii-mote... you can have stabbing games... you can... make a game about catching butterflies... ummm... games that simulate painting a fence... uhhhhmmm.... I know I know... finally they can come out with a decent masturbation simulator!! Sorry ladies they'll make a different controller for you! 19 -
Unregistered - Real Gamer 05.25.2006 19:08 Actually if you want to get more for your buck, You should buy the PS3 and the Wii. At least then you would have one Full next generation Console and one fun gimmick. Otherwise your just getting 2 cheaply made current generation systems. Lets see $399 for an xbox 360 with no high def drive for games and a hard drive games dont use, Or $499 for a Ps3 with a Blu-ray drive for GAMES and MOVIES, and a Hard drive games will use and a controller thats motion sensor. Hum all for $100 more. Its a no brainer unless your a xbox fan with no Brain. 20 -
#19 you are a complete idiotUnregistered - yo 05.25.2006 20:26 I feel bad for people like you still caught in the web of Sony hype. The blu ray drive does NOTHING for games. Let me repeat that, NOTHING for games. Current games only use half of a DVD9. They are not going to magically more than double overnight just because the barely functional PS3 is going to be released. Come on. Think for a second. Five years from now, when the next round of consoles come out, larger optical media might be needed. Although, we may see a move to downloading games, so it may be a moot point. For now, though, blu ray is absolutely irrelavent for games. No one even knows if blu ray will be a dead movie format in a year or two, just like all of Sony's previous attempts. Plus, if you really care about watching quality HD movies at home, you wouldn't want a crappy built-in player anyway. You would want a quality stand alone. Look at the PS2's built-in DVD player. It was awful. The Xbox's wasn't much better. Buy a game system for GAMES. As far as GAME systems go, buy a 360 and if you want two systems, buy a Wii. The PS3 is a waste of money. 21 -
I agree with #20. Number 19 is a idiot.OutLaw 05.25.2006 20:50 Look I really don't need to get into specs because #20 did a fine job. #19 do a little HomeWork before you come out with any remarks about the 360. Even IBM said that the two system isn't that far from each other in specs. Also like #20 points out the HD-DVD don't really matter and neither does the Blu Ray because both is not going to be use for games just movies. About time Sony gets their act together MS will be on their third generation of games and probably be making plans for their next system. So lets not give Sony too much credit because the PS3 is not even out yet. Until the system comes out lower the noise a little about what Sony is going to do. It is getting pretty old just like that cell technology that they keep talking about. 22 -
YEAH RIGHTUnregistered - FeralPhoenix 05.25.2006 21:07 Hey dont believe so easily....the only reason Moore is advertising Wii is because most gamers will buy at least two systems, Im not talking about the true hardcore gamers that want it all and will buy all 3...Im talking about the majority of the gamers who grew up playing games and now still enjoy playing for a few hours in their free time or with some friends. Now my point is that in general this is the largest demographic buying consoles and games, so its strictly a strategic move if you are M$ or Sony to say that you like the Wii, because they know that Nintendo is not a serious threat to compete in the next gen, M$ and Sony are the dominant consoles, so M$ knowing that most gamers will buy 2 consoles of course Moore would rather the "other" console be a Wii and the same goes for Sony...but honestly think of it this way if depending on which console you choose 360 or PS3 look at the titles exclusive to those systems, now look at Nintendo, uhhm I haven't played Mario since I was 11 and it still looks the same. Now come on they both already know the "majority" of gamers are going to own a 360 or a PS3, and the reality is given the "direction" Nintendo is headed if you really only want 2 consoles then no matter which brand you favor, say you prefer the 360 like me, but then if I'm going to buy a 2nd console why the hell would I choose a "Wii" over a "PS3" and vice versa for PS3 fans. I mean come on I hear people on this site "talking" about getting a Wii, but I think their bluffing...who the hell cares about the motion sensor control, ha...it will be cool for about 10 min. I just cant imagine waving that damm thing around for an hour..and Im in pretty good shape...besides I don't know anybody older than 12 who will really buy a "Wii"...so stop lying to yourself as much as I don't like Sony...in the end it will be a good system, maybe I'll wait for the price to drop, but I sure as hell won't buy a f-ing Wii...I still laugh every time I hear that, hey I know some of you will dismiss me as some crazy who thinks he knows it all...but the majority of you know Im right, most videogame lovers will buy a 360 and a PS3 thats just the bottom line...M$ and Sony knows it, all their trying to do is step on their rival for the top spot. 23 -
WhatTHAMMER1 05.25.2006 21:38 I thought the Wii was going to be the HD-DVD drive? How about you? Good Idea or what? I really really think so. ;^) 24 -
Unregistered - Dragon 05.25.2006 22:29 Ah NO, 20 and 21. #19 is right, Blu-ray will make a difference in the near future for games, Some larger more detailed Games on dvd were already going to 2 disc on the PS2 and xbox, More will be doing so on 360. And as worlds get more detailed and complex and AI gets more interactive dvd will run out of room, Blu-ray however will not. Dont try and give us this bull about how Blu-ray wont be used and dvd has plenty of room. If MS had made their game run on HD-dvd you would be singing a different tune. But since MS knew their fans were so cheap and stupid they left it out and didnt truly go High def. Sony on the other hand always thinks ahead and always does better. PS1 had CD, PS2 had DVD and they both sold a huge amount and pushed games beyond the limits of cartridge and CD. Maybe not at launch but Push the limits they did. Now PS3 has Blu-ray. Its the next Smart and logical step in the Evolution of Gaming. The 360 takes a small step forward keeping the other foot in the Present. The PS3 leaps ahead daring to be better and better they will be, just like PS1 and PS2. And just like PS1 and PS2, there were idiots like you saying it wouldnt work and they had to eat their words to. Dont think for a moment you know what yor talking about, I have the Past 10 years to back me up, You have nothing but a feeble attempt at a next generation machine that was pushed out early and had a laughable launch that says nothing. Just wait. PS3 will pass 360, people arent running out to buy 360 anymore, the stores all have them and they are slowing down on sales, which for Japan, thats almost rolling backwards. Japan alone could make PS3 pass 360 in sales at launch. PS3 is the Most anticipated Machine ever and nothing you can dream up will change that. 25 -
Unregistered - just a gamer 05.25.2006 23:08 Hahahaha. #24 is drinking Sony cool aid. Are you a Sony employee? 10 years of what backing you up? The PS2 didn't have any competition and it rode on the coat tails of PSone (which was a good system). The PS2 was not a good machine. The Xbox was much better, hardware wise. Sony screwed its loyal fans by putting out a system with not much in the way of hardware improvements because they had no competition. Of course, it had a lot of developer support which is why it was a success, but the support was gained by the PSone. Microsoft had a better system in the Xbox, but not nearly the developer support. This is changing. Did you see E3 this year. The 360 games blew the PS3 games out of the water. Sony is losing many of its exclusives, including a growing Japanese developer support for the 360, while the 360 is gaining. The reason the 360 isn't doing well in Japan is because it doesn't have a lot of games currently developed specifically for the Japanese culture (that and the Japanese are very economically nationalistic), but as more and more Japanese developers make games for the 360, this will change, albeit slowly. Plus, Japan is not the only market. There is still the biggest, USA, and Europe, Australia, the rest of Asia, etc, of which the 360 will definately gain ground and may even surpass if Sony continues along the line of its recent lackluster performances. Back to blu ray. You are a fool. There were no games that came on two discs for the Xbox. The second discs of games like Halo2, contained 'making of movies' and 'behind the scenes'. Again, I repeat, NO GAME DATA was stored on more than one disc. The average game, today, uses about half of a DVD9. Do a search. On the 360, a game as massive as Oblivion did use more than half, but it still had plenty of room. Also, the reason for its size was the massive amount of audio in the game. There are very few games that contain the amount of recorded audio Oblivion has, yet Oblivion still had plenty of room. No matter what Sony kool aid drinking fools say, games will not take advantage of blu ray or HD-DVD for several years, unless you consider adding 'making of movies' or different region specific data to the same game disc as an improvement in gameplay. Sony is hyping that these things are necessary, but they are not. Stop following blindly. 26 -
SalesUnregistered - Plado 05.25.2006 23:13 The 360 is not slowing down in sales. It is actually selling more now than it was before. There are more units in the stores because MS is using three manufacturing plants instead of two and is shipping more than enough units. 27 -
#24OutLaw 05.25.2006 23:20 You are right in some areas then you started to act like a child and Sony was your Daddy. Calm down a little. I had every system you could imagine and that includes sony's wonderful PS & PS2. But this holiday mom is not going to buy little Jimmy (no matter how much he cries) a $600 system. You act like sony was around from day one with the system wars. Well wake up and smell the coffee they haven't. Just like alot of other companies sooner or later the King must fall. Do you really believe that with that price range and a technology that nobody really work on, that sony is going to be top dog. Well think again it is a hard thing to do with a system which most likely be delay again to 2007 and a 2 year old technology by then to over throw a system that has establish them selves. Like I said before by then MS will be on their 3rd generation games and probably thinking about a new system when Sony is trying to understand theirs. Lets not start with the rumor of stores like EB can't buy games back. Yeah I want five years of Madden to keep in my collection. So go complaint on Sony forum and stay off this one. 28 -
#24Unregistered - greenlynxx 05.26.2006 00:13 The only reason you believe Blue Ray is needed for games is because Sony said so. And here is a little clue for you, high def is not about what kind of disc the info is stored on but how much space it can hold. Will dvd 9s hold a full sized high def movie? No, but it does hold high def games. Even if games exceeded the dvd 9 it is no big deal to go to two discs. In reality I don't believe that will ever happen because of procedural synthesis and compression techniques. Another reason is that developers have stated that games are not really getting bigger just the budget for the art needed to create the game. Will that change, probably, but not to a huge degree and not overnight. 29 -
Rubiks14 05.26.2006 00:20 your damn right I'm buying a wii. I've been lookin foward to that thing ever since I saw the controller. I love zelda and mario and to have 2 next-gen consoles for around the same price as the 3rd is just awesome. I hope microsoft and nintendo work out something but i don't think that will be happening...i'd really like to be able to play halo with the wii controller...how bad ass would that be...but i really don't think it'll happen. 30 -
Unregistered - Gamer for life! 05.26.2006 18:55 Well, now. Looks like xboys are all up in the air cause Ps3 will Blow 360 away again. Look, I've been following Blu-ray ever since news ever started to appear about it. Even before Sony announced it would be in the PS3. This is a huge step up for gaming whether or not you little boys want to believe it. Games are getting bigger no matter what MS has told you and there have been games in the past that had to go to 2 disc whether it be cd or dvd. Look at the way things are heading. There were games onPS1 with 2 disc, and no one thought they would ever fill one up. Now you couldnt get a PS2 game on a cd and it be worth anything, PS2 and xbox games got bigger and did a good job of filling up a dvd, maybe not full but getting there. Next gen games will fill up a dvd, Maybe not now but in a year or two, it will happen, Maybe not even on the 360 since by then they will have to dumb them down from the PS3 to make them fit but for the PS3 they would, but wont since on Blu-ray theres no need. Oh and dont act like that the PS2 and its whole one year head start is what made the xbox lose. 360 has one year on PS3 and I guarantee you it will pass 360 with no problem within 6 months or less. Say what you want even though you dont beleive it. Think what you want even though you dont really think it. Blu-ray is an awesome format and PS3 will rule once again. EVERYBODY SAYS SO. (except you stupid xboys) Oh and whats with the $600 mark. Notice you retards use the highest price instead of the $500 PS3 that is the same as the $400 360 but you get more with the PS3. ALOT MORE. You buy the $400 360, the HD-dvd add one which will probably be $150 or up. Now youve spent $550 or more to get close to the same thing PS3 has. Heck, spend $50 more and get a MUCH bigger hard drive, HDMI output, wifi capability, and Memory card slots. Your the idiots getting ripped off here. Not us. Oh and now tell me your not giong to buy the HD-dvd add on. Heh heh , GOOD. Then it will fail miserably (which it will anyway) and just cost MS even more. Stupids... PS3 rules, Just wait and see. 31 -
#30 you the idiotUnregistered - extreme gamer 05.26.2006 20:09 #30 Stop! Hanging on Sony's balls! Did you know majority of PS2's 1st generation games was on CD? Stop talking through your a$$! Blu Ray is pointless & show me a PS2 & Xbox game using 2 DVD's. You an idiot Sony f@g! 32 -
Unregistered - yay 05.27.2006 15:50 It's poor morons like #30 that will keep Sony in business. Did you see the games at E3? Your overpriced hunk is having problems keeping up with the 360's launch games. Not one PS3 game looked better than the 360 and there were several 360 games that looked better than anything shown, as of yet, on the PS3 (like Mass Effect and GOW for example) No game has used two discs yet and no game has even gotten close. Yeah, a few here and there used more than half of a DVD9, but most don't. I'm not saying blu ray is a crappy format, although it may lose to HD-DVD because HD-DVD is cheaper to manufacture and outputs the same quality. What I'm saying is that blu ray is not needed this generation for games. Sure, games increase in size, no one is arguing that. Eventually, they will outgrow a DVD9. What is being said though, is that it won't happen for several years. Even if it does get close, companies are coming out with hybrid DVDs that have more space and work in regular DVD players (like what's in the 360). Therefore, there is no absolutely no advantage that blu ray gives in the PS3 over regular DVD in the 360 for GAMES. True, you can watch blu ray movies, but most don't buy a game system to watch movies, and the format war has barely begun, and is far from being decided. Blu ray could lose. What then? You are fooled by Sony into thinking it's needed today for gaming so that you support their endeavors in the media format war. I'm sorry, my friend, but you are not thinking clearly. If you really want to support blu ray, then by all means, but don't think or say you will be getting better gaming. It's just not true. 33 -
Good points #32OutLaw 05.28.2006 12:36 Also Don't forget that their one playable PS3 game Assassin's Creed was really played on a hidden 360. Yeah Sony is showing the Power of the 360 not the PS3. Add Comment |
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