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06 Oct 2005 13:20 | KhanMan | Systems | Xbox 360 | Revolution Xbox360News.com | Link to this article 
In a recent interview with Microsoft Xbox corporate VP J Allard at Gameinformer.com, Allard stated that the Xbox 360 DVD remote control (included in the $399 version of the Xbox 360 console) could also be used as a game controller. "You’re going to be able to play casual games on Live Arcade with the remote control."
Allard also praised Nintendo on the idea of the Revolution controller but is skeptical about being used by certain game developers. "I don’t think most Electronic Arts games are going to be played with that thing." It will be a nice feature for those of us too lazy to reach down and pick up the wireless controller Add Comment  1 -
censorshipUnregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.06.2005 14:58 playing with the old joystick ehhh 2 -
Unregistered - oh ya 10.06.2005 14:58 looks like somebody is copying the revolution, haha, thats awesome 3 -
Unregistered - PS3Player 10.06.2005 15:00 (useless post removed by mod) 4 -
Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.06.2005 15:00 no they arent copying squat that was there all a long 5 -
Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.06.2005 15:01 actually our idea was original since its idea was released first hahaha in nintendo's face! And he is right, i cant picture playing games like madden, or pga tour with the revo controller... i think it will dieout... 6 -
#4 read sony fonyUnregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.06.2005 15:02 More fundamentally, a really cool trend for us is that people are doing their next-generation content on Xbox 360. Now, they may end up porting some of that to PS3, but Xbox 360 is becoming the reference platform for them to work with, because we have development kits. We have real tools that they can actually do real work on. So what that’s going to mean is that the games end up being optimised for the platform they’re created for. That’s going to lead to some great content. The third thing I’d point out is, Sony doesn’t have the equivalent of Xbox Live, so cross-platform games don’t support Xbox Live. There may end up being some online thing from Sony, but Sony doesn’t have the service, they don’t have the single user identification, they don’t have all the things we’ve shown on Xbox Live. So if you want to play online, which title are you going to buy? I think it’s all of those factors, which have actually helped us this generation, as well as next-gen. I think we’re going to do great with cross-platform product. Source: GameIndustry.biz 7 -
XboxDuggan360 10.06.2005 15:02 #4, if you flipping love the ps3 so much why the f**k are you on this website??? 8 -
XboxDuggan360 10.06.2005 15:04 I'll probably get full auto if it comes out b4 christmas which im beggining to doubt, but ill probably get NFSMW and/or PDZ 9 -
AnonymousCoward 10.06.2005 15:25 you can play pga tour with the Revolution controller but rather than pressing the button then pressing it again when it hits the little line you make the swing yourself, same with a football game instead of pressing the button to throw the ball you perform the action of throwing the ball. Oh and if you like sports so much actually play them in real life not on the television you lazy person you. 10 -
Unregistered - man 10.06.2005 15:43 ok why would we trust an Anonymous Coward and thats retarded, if you are playing 2 player it wouldn't no who is who the button sends the signle plus that would mean your character would always be throwin unless the remote isn't lined up with the laser thing so how would you run you would screw the whole game and the buyers would be very very pissed. 11 -
It will probably be used for...Unregistered - BulletTheory 10.06.2005 15:43 ...arcade games And EA suck ass. First I buy battle for middle earth which sucked, then they bring out a whole new one because they wanted to add a few ships! morons. they dont take enough care and love over games to make them truly great. 12 -
AnonymousCoward 10.06.2005 16:15 why the hell would we trust some "man". ITS CALLED A JOKE, my name is AnonymousCoward because its still the same as everyone else's name, its not like someone would use their real name on a web site as their user name, and if they did they dont have an imagination. RETARD 13 -
Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.06.2005 16:21 I agree with #13 14 -
Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.06.2005 16:33 Also, the PS2 dvd remote did the same exact thing FIVE years ago. 15 -
Somewhere I BelongPAUL CERULA 10.06.2005 17:04 Please how do you expect to play fast pace fps and sports games. The fact is that when your using a gun or remote to aim at something the aim is far from accurate, much like the duck hunt game. FPS -- Now granted the rev. controller would be far better but still if you have to physically aim the game is going to be slow, innacurate, and aggrevating to have to move your arm to aim. The problem is that your aiming at figures the size of around a foot or less on the TV. Inless you had a complete wall with lifesize figures you will have a bad FPS with a remote or something you have to physically aim with. Also with sports games it won't be nearly as bad, it will just get old whipping the controller around at invisible baseballs pictured on the TV and it seems that the perspective on the player would be very screwy. Basket ball games?? Football games??? Your going to have to shoot with one hand(remote) and move around with the joystick. Now third person and first person views always have needed two joysticks to control movement so how are you going to dodge a player and throw or shoot at the same time?? Now don't get me wrong I like revolutionary video game stuff, this Rev. Controller just won't work with a lot of gametypes. Mario, Sonic and the other childish games will of course still work because that's all Nintendo has going for them. The revolution is already said to be worse than PS3 and Xbox 360, so tell me why buy it? The truth is that Nintendo obsessors, beyond anyother consumer, put blinders to their eyes and go with Nintendo because they liked playing Super Nintendo and the first nintendo. You guys need to wake up and buy the best valued and most practical console that would serve you in the best way. 16 -
Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.06.2005 17:12 ITS NINTENDO THATS WHY YOU SHOULD BUY IT AT LEAST NINTENDO DOESN'T LIE TO THEIR CONSUMERS 17 -
Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.06.2005 17:30 yah just lets them down with bad graphics and bad controllers 18 -
to Sparten 777AnonymousCoward 10.06.2005 17:56 Im not a Nintendo fan boy, well not anymore when I was in grade 7 ya but now that im outa high school I do just play games for fun what ever game it is, its just I grew up with nintendo and to me its almost like your first pet even though you could get a new and better pet its just not the same, you know? Call me what ever you want but I just dont want Nintendo to die they still make amazing games and to all you hardcore Xbox fans "hey try our system its better", take your own advice and try the other systems then decide which one is better then your opion would matter. All of the systems have their strong points, lets start with the FPS games Xbox most definatly wins this catagory then it would go the Gamecube and the PS2(the Ps2 had very jumpy controls, it didnt ease into movement like the Xbox controller and to a lesser extent the gamecube controller and killzone sucks you couldnt even jump), Lets go to RPGs PS2 (and gamecube in a very close second with Xbox right on its ass) wins this catagory cause thats all its good for, Now for adventure games it would have to be Nintendo mainly cause of Zelda and who cares what wind waker looks like have you even played it the fighting in it is so expansive there is so much you can do in a fight and the puzzles are by far the most chalenging out of all the systems, oh and sports games would have to go to Xbox cause all sports games suck (except hotshots golf) but the Xbox as the best graphics. 19 -
oh I forgotAnonymousCoward 10.06.2005 18:02 I would have to say that the Xbox was probably the best console cause it basicly did good in all catagories and it did the best in fighting games cause of DOA but Gamecube did really good too cause it had the best Soul Caliber 2 port cause of Link (the PS2 version sucked ass) and because of Super Smash Bros Melee cause its so damn fun to bet the living crap out of pikachu, man I so wanna kill a pikachu with my own hands that thing annoys me soooo much its hard to type. 20 -
Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.06.2005 19:22 Read this, Shows how much a snake Microsoft can be. http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/oct2005/tc2005106_9074_tc024.htm 21 -
Or read here for same factsUnregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.06.2005 19:37 Microsoft's criticism is that Blu-ray disks will be more expensive to manufacture and may be impossible to make in large volumes. Yet the technology's supporters are convinced costs will be similar over the long term. "We don't see any big cost difference, and we know a thing or two about volume manufacturing," says Michael Dell, chairman of PC giant Dell. Why is so much vitriol spilling from behind closed doors over one tech standard? The shiny little disk that Gates and Stringer tangled over has the potential to alter the landscape of the entertainment and technology industries. Next-generation DVDs will feature high-definition movies, extras like movie-themed computer games, and the ability to download film trailers from the Internet. CONFLICTING VISIONS. Tech players, media companies, consumer-electronics giants, and retailers are brawling to take advantage of the new financial and strategic opportunities. "It's like the old Irish saying: 'Is this a private fight, or can anyone jump in?'" says Paul Saffo, director of the Institute for the Future. For each side, the stakes are huge. Movie studios, struggling with a sudden slowdown in the $18 billion-a-year U.S. DVD market, are salivating over the chance to entice consumers with movies on new high-definition disks. Consumer-electronics makers -- which increasingly include Dell and HP -- are banking on people thirsting for more high-definition gear, from DVD players to big-screen TVs. And Microsoft and Intel, hungry for new growth opportunities, want to expand their roles in people's lives, helping them manage digital photos or download the next Batman flick off of the Net. Behind the brinkmanship lie two vastly different views of where entertainment in the home is heading. Microsoft and Intel paint a futuristic picture of the digital home, with sleek PCs powered by their software and chips in the central role. The PC would shuttle music, photos, and video from room to room—and grab off the Web everything from the latest Tom Cruise blockbuster to a National Public Radio podcast. TRIPLE PLAY. Sony and its supporters are skittish about the latest movies being zipped around the house. Blu-ray disks can hold more content than today's DVDs, but they would be used in much the same way. The new disks would be plopped into a DVD player, and copyrighted material, like Hollywood movies, couldn't be ripped to a computer's hard drive without a studio's permission. Blu-ray equipped devices are even designed to recognize and refuse to play pirated movies. Such protections are another big reason Sony has won the support of studios, such as News Corp.'s Fox (NWS ). No company has more at stake than Sony. Long one of the most innovative companies in electronics, it stumbled badly in recent years. With Blu-ray, it has the opportunity for a triple play. It'll reap royalties from all the disks sold with its technology. Its movie business could see a resurgence in lucrative DVD sales. And it could see sales soar for its electronics gear, including HDTVs, movie cameras, Blu-ray optical drives, and especially its new PlayStation game consoles, which will include a Blu-ray drive for playing movies. Sony's people have "bet the entire future on this," says analyst Michael Pachter of Wedbush Morgan Securities. "It's too important for them to lose, so they will do everything they can to win." HIGH-TECH INTRIGUE. The story of how Sony and Stringer maneuvered their way into what looks like a winning position in the DVD wars includes enough intrigue to fill more than a few disks. The backdrop is Sony's famous failure two decades ago to establish Betamax as the standard for videotape, despite its widely recognized technological edge. It lost out to Matsushita's VHS, in part because its onerous licensing terms alienated the Hollywood studios. Then in the 1990s, Toshiba outmaneuvered Sony to establish the standard for today's DVDs. The Japanese company teamed up with Time Warner (TWX ) on the technology, using the media giant's clout to get other Hollywood studios on board. The result is that Toshiba and Time Warner rake in the lion's share of the royalties generated by DVDs. No one has disclosed precisely what those royalties are, but they run into the hundreds of millions of dollars. Toshiba looked as if it could win the battle for high-definition DVDs too. After Sony and partners Philips and Matsushita (MC ) began work on Blu-ray, Toshiba in 2003 hired former Warner Bros. video chief Warren Lieberfarb to lobby for studio support. It was a savvy move, since it was Lieberfarb who had won the studios backing for the first DVD standard. By November, 2004, the assault appeared to be working—with Warner, Paramount, Universal, and New Line Cinema seemingly firmly in the Toshiba camp. MICROSOFT'S CHOICES. With so much at stake, Sony went on its own recruiting campaign. It quickly signed up some of the biggest names in consumer electronics, including Samsung and Sharp. By early 2005, Dell, HP, and Apple (AAPL ) Computer joined the industry standards group. The electronics makers think Blu-ray has the greatest chance to prompt consumers to start opening their checkbooks for new gear. Microsoft at first stayed out of this tug-of-war. Instead, it focused on selling its software to both sides. The Toshiba camp first agreed to use a piece of Microsoft software, its VC-1 code, that squeezes content onto the disk, then decodes it for viewing. Then, in September, 2004, the Blu-ray backers adopted this chunk of code as well -- in exchange for a public pledge of neutrality from Microsoft. "We wanted them to join us," says an insider who is close to the Blu-ray Disc Assn. "But we compromised on neutrality." That neutrality has unraveled over the past year, as Microsoft increasingly came to see Blu-ray as a risk to its fortunes. In May, Sony confirmed that it would include Blu-ray in the new PlayStation game console beginning next year. Microsoft's Xbox wouldn't have such capability. Then on June 15, the Blu-ray camp decided against using Microsoft's IHD technology to add interactive features to Blu-ray disks, opting instead to stick with software based on Java technology. FIGHTING PIRATES. In July, Sony decided to refine the Blu-ray standard in a way that would have far-reaching implications for Microsoft. Sony wanted to win the support of Twentieth Century Fox Film Studios, long Hollywood's leading advocate for tough anti-piracy measures. So Sony agreed to add safeguards developed for Fox by San Francisco's Cryptography Research, which could prevent Blu-ray movies from being ripped to a computer's hard drive. Fox execs say their decision became a no-brainer, because of the extra protection and because as many as 30 million PlayStations might be sold in the next three years. "They have a Trojan Horse that will play a critical role in igniting the market for this product, and when they do, we intend to be in that market with them," says Michael Dunn, president of Fox Home Entertainment. The move was a serious blow for Microsoft's Xbox. The company had decided to hold down costs by not including a next-generation DVD player in the game console. Instead, it planned to stream high-definition content from a PC sitting in one room to the console, which would be attached to a television. But Cryptography's safeguards meant studios could block their content from being taken off the DVD. That was the reason for Gates's exchange with Stringer at the conference. Gates wanted Sony to drop such technology, but Stringer wouldn't budge. Meanwhile, Sony's camp received help winning over one influential studio from an unlikely source. Raider Carl C. Icahn, one of Time Warner's largest shareholders, began pressuring the studio to find ways to boost its stock price earlier this year. Despite Time Warner's long alliance with Toshiba, CEO Richard Parsons asked Jeff Bewkes, chairman of the company's entertainment unit, to reconsider the best way to recharge DVD sales. Bewkes decided that the studio should forget appearances and back Blu-ray if it was the format most likely to win consumers' hearts. "Blu-ray's potential for more capacity started looking better and better," said one Hollywood executive. CRISIS MODE. Once warner started to waver, Paramount Pictures decided to move first in order to negotiate better terms, according to Hollywood insiders. On Sept. 23 one Blu-ray insider saw preliminary contracts written up by Warner Bros. and Paramount to join the Blu-ray board. "It was all going to happen in a day or two," says the source. Leaked to Microsoft, the news put the company in crisis mode. Execs began working the phones, lobbying retailers about the potential for mass consumer confusion if competing standards came to market. Concerned, CEO H. Lee Scott of Wal-Mart Stores (WMT ). personally telephoned Stringer and Walt Disney CEO Robert Iger, two Hollywood sources say. Finally, Microsoft issued its joint statement with Intel. Microsoft declined any additional comment for this article. The public attack may have backfired. One day after Microsoft talked up the importance of Toshiba's ability to hit the market first with its standard, Toshiba announced it would delay rolling out its own HD DVD players until after the holidays. Sony's Blu-ray-equipped PlayStations are scheduled to go on sale early next year, too. The same day, Yoshihide Fujii, Toshiba's corporate senior vice-president for digital media products, said the company remained open to creating a single format. 22 -
Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.06.2005 19:53 there not copying the revolution #3 they said that in like july. this is old news man 23 -
Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.06.2005 19:56 to the asswhole that said ''if your a ps3 fan why are you on this site" what if he is a sony and xbox fanboy 24 -
Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.06.2005 21:28 I plan on losing my leashless controllers. 25 -
Hey 19AnonymousCoward 10.07.2005 00:28 Nintendo gives the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth, while the other companies give you all this sweet info then to just let you down by saying "oh we cant fit that" or "its more expensive than we realized" (more sony less microsoft). Nintendo had already said that its system was less powerful (same as with the gamecube it had the least amount of power but it was all put to good use and pumped out amazing graphics cause it didnt mutitask the processor) but that doesnt mean the graphics are bad, they havent revealed anything about its graphic potential, cause they are not finished it yet they havent even made a game for it yet it still has almost a year left and they started work at the same time as sony, they could have realesed it sooner but there not stupid they want to release a COMPLETE system not like when the PS2 or Xbox came out, you know what gamecube had the least amount of problems when it came out and so will the Revolution cause Nintendo will give you a product that wasnt rushed through the final stages of development but carefully brought to a finished with love and care. Nintendo cares about there systems and thats more than you could say about sony or microsoft. 26 -
#25Unregistered - GAMEFACE 10.07.2005 06:08 Awwwwwwww, how sweet....Nintendo has so much "love and care" for their consoles. Come on give me a break! Im not hatin on Nintendo but its seems like they are seriously behind the power curve when it comes to this gen. consoles or the next gen. console based on info. released so far and even some of their own comments. Also the remote that comes with the 1st 360's was announced before Nintendo released their new "Revolutionary controller" which is actually supposed to be used to play games, the 360 remote however is an accessory remote that will have limited gameplay features....trust me nobody will actually be playing Halo 3 or whatever with it, LOL!....I got to say that I'm interested to see how sports, FPS, and other complex games can be played with it and honestly I laugh every time I think about someone playing dentist or a chef with Nintendos new "remote" controller. Maybe I'm wrong and it will be the next "revolution" in videogaming, but somehow I just don't think so. 27 -
@ #18Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.07.2005 15:03 Well it looks to me like your pet died... and when pets die people get new ones, so why not only get a 360, invest all the money you were planning on investing into other consoles on the 360, and you will have the best gamming machine to date. I mean you clearly show intrest in the 360 because you are actively posting, and you are visiting the site, and are a member. Please don't contribute to nintendo because then they won't stop trying to evade the inevitable 28 -
Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.07.2005 16:15 If it wasn't for Nintendo there would be no sony or microsoft's in the video game industry. Don't nock the innovators of home gaming. Show respect. 29 -
Microsoft is *****Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.07.2005 19:22 Microsoft copied, they are bit**es, wit out Nintendo, Wbox wouldn't exist. NINTENDO IS THE BEST! 30 -
that is so getto.Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.07.2005 21:19 Why does Xbox have to copy Nintendo, and why wouldn't Electronic Arts want to do games with that new controllers, you guys are some copycaters men, come up with your own stuff. Imbesils. 31 -
Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.07.2005 21:22 xbox is for looser. Add Comment |
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