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Don't Believe What You Read
14 Oct 2005 11:48 | billaboy | Xbox 360
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What do you do when game developers lie to consumers?  Normally, when this happens gamers tend to be disappointed and want their heads.  Well, Bizarre (developers of PGR3) claimed that there were approximately 85,000 polygons for each car model.  Well, it seems like that number is WRONG.  Bizarre publicly apologized for lying about the number of polygons for each car model in PGR3.  Enjoy the screenshots. 

Source: Bizarreonline.net

Excerpt from Bizarreonline.net

In the past we've claimed that each car in PGR3 is made of about 80,000 polygons on average. To put this in perspective, we previously used about 10,000 per car in PGR2... that's an eight fold increase from our last game. Appropriately enough, some were sceptical about this number, especially given the enhanced shading and lighting we're incorporating into the game in addition to the increased number of polygons. So, I took it upon myself to head over to the car artists, and found out for myself exactly how many polys we were pushing per car. The results were surprising... therefore I'd like to take this opportunity to apologise to all gamers who were expecting 80,000 triangles in PGR3. I can conclusively reveal that in fact we do NOT have 80,000 polygons on average per car.


... It's actually closer to 96,000...

Bizarre explained that some cars have 85,000 polygons while others go as high as 105,000, making an average of 96,000 polygons for the whole roster. As a way to apologize for their lie, they decided to release new screenshots that show the cars in both wireframe and fully shaded views.










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1 - WOOT!!
Unregistered - meoow 10.14.2005 12:02
this game is so sweet i can taste it!

2 -
JsonHenry 10.14.2005 12:02
Wow, I thought for a second it was going to be lower, not more.

You guys!!


3 -
Unregistered - bokk` 10.14.2005 12:03
same here... i was also gonna post first but went back to look at it :D

4 - Haha!
Unregistered - BulletTheory 10.14.2005 12:07
I love them :p

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Unregistered - bob 10.14.2005 12:11
so how many pollys were in the cars in gothan2 on xbox ,for a comparison,

6 - PGR3!!!!!!!!!
bigjoe4 10.14.2005 12:11
This game will RULE!!!!!!!!!!
I would buy a 360 just 4 this game.
This will be the first game I'm gonna gert after launch.


7 - #bob
bigjoe4 10.14.2005 12:12
There where 10,000 pollygons in PGR2

8 - #7
bigjoe4 10.14.2005 12:12
per car I mean

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Unregistered - Eranix 10.14.2005 12:14
This is a little bit late.

10 - Now I hate xbox 360 because of these recent events!...
Unregistered - got ya! Ha ha! 10.14.2005 12:18
Those PGR3 f*ckers!
They better have some swag for the consumers ready for this mix up!
I expect a free game to do my own tests!
I'll start with the photo above...1+1+1...sh*t reality only has 75,000 polygons!
Now I'm really confused!?
Someone please help me count, I'll start on the wheels I can multiply those by 4 atleast.
Sorry really bored at work and it's Friday. WOOHHOO!


11 -
Unregistered - asdf 10.14.2005 12:21
#10 I don't know what you're talking about at all.

12 - Haha
bigjoe4 10.14.2005 12:28
I do

13 - #11 do you understand...
Unregistered - english 10.14.2005 12:31
#11 I was being saracastic... trying to be funny.
But I guess by explaining my joke it will make it funnier!
Those are the best kinds of jokes.
BTW : swag=giveaways.



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Unregistered - IndicaSativa 10.14.2005 12:32
i aint counting that sh*t lol you can let me know im goin on the dev word if they only had 10,000 per car in the last one and 96,000 in this one im happy count em up tho

15 -
Red 10.14.2005 12:52
I got up to 16,769 and then my eyes began to bleed.

16 - :)
Unregistered - fdgd 10.14.2005 13:03
lol. I thought I was getting ready to read some controversy.

17 - counting...
Unregistered - PIPU 10.14.2005 13:04
I'm on 55,190......... wait, or was it 55,189? S**t! I lost count...again!

18 -
Unregistered - none 10.14.2005 13:06
I'm starting to count... 1, 2, 3.. I'll post my final number by the end of the month. :)

19 - I've counted them all!
Unregistered - The Master counter 10.14.2005 13:28
after ~2hours of counting I came up with the number 107575, but I might have missed a few so i guess it's around 107600- let me know if I'm way off....

20 - WOW
Unregistered - 360fan 10.14.2005 13:33
WOW thats amazing, when I read the first paragraph, i was about to faint. Im glad i read on, wow thats alot, with PGR2 only having 10,000 per car (exterior and interior).

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Unregistered - http://www.havamedia.net/MemberZone/Modules/Users/Register.aspx?rt=add&RefID=3&SiteName=For%20www.xbox360news.com 10.14.2005 13:49
Sick.

22 -
Unregistered - develsadvocte 10.14.2005 14:21
After 4 and a half hours i came up with 102,743 polygons. Now thats impressive!

23 - fJubulagerbuhgfbulajubhbularvb
bigjoe4 10.14.2005 15:09
This game is actually going to be so good I can't think of annything 2 say for the title of this comment.

24 - PGR3 RULES !!!
Unregistered - J Ronkster 10.14.2005 15:56
Read and weep Fony Gaye Station 3 boys, if you think GT5 will be anywhere near as good then you must be on another planet !!!



25 - LOL
Unregistered - Rocky2 10.14.2005 15:59
lol guys, that was pretty funny when u said that it actually has about 96000


26 -
Unregistered - HEy 10.14.2005 16:18
Now im not gonna get the game they lied...

27 -
SillyNewbie 10.14.2005 16:37
I found a program that can count polygons, its a thing my dad uses for work.. and the real number is 102,783

28 -
xero coo1 10.14.2005 16:56
What kind of program is it. What is it used for.

29 - freaked me out!!
Unregistered - andrew 10.14.2005 17:17
i was just reading the story and i just about fell out on the floor! now is not the time to be posting the the games are not as good as advertised. but thats wbat i thought you were saying until i read further into it. scared the crap out of me!! thats great news!

30 -
Jason Lee 10.15.2005 04:10
Nice to have some good news for a change with all the delays that seem to be popping up.

31 - Hold Up
Unregistered - Zero-0 10.15.2005 05:06
If xbox 360 can pull this many polys why can't we have cg skin on dead or alive 4? Haaaaaaaaaaa. I'd rather have smaller stages with cg like character modeles. To tell you the truth, haveing a big stage doesn't matter that much in a fighting game. What do you think?

32 - If I was a SONY Fanboy...
trick5ter 10.15.2005 13:10
I would totally have flamed after I read the Header. LOL suck on this PS3 ;D
0\/\//\/463!


33 - What?
Unregistered - Moderator 10.15.2005 14:39
Im not sure why your calling their mistake a lie. But it was funny.

34 - Just another scheme
Unregistered - just_gamer 10.16.2005 11:03
How could people believe this crap? This is from my opinion and what i have learned from the past experiences, the company is just trying to sell you game so they make a story so you could follow it. Including xbox360news, they have say good thing about xbox360news or else they wont stay in business. Where would you think they get the money from to offer you this? From game developer and retailer, they have to write to sell the games Or because xbox360news have nothing new to show or interest to show. It so close to the launch day and nothing surprise or major news go around. This just my random though about this stupid article and the xbox360.

35 -
Unregistered - Sh**face 10.16.2005 19:48
34, the people who put advertisments on the site pay for it u f**k

36 -
Unregistered - just_gamer 10.16.2005 23:57
And who are the people that advertise on this site? Xbox dealer and reseller...or games developer themselve.

37 -
Yo Wassap 10.17.2005 07:43
Well yeah the site is called xbox360news.com i dougt you'd find a ps2 on this site huh?

38 -
Yo Wassap 10.17.2005 07:43
oops bad spelling

39 -
Unregistered - Omnistegan 10.18.2005 11:56
I still don't believe you, geez, send all the car models, environment models, textures, and source code to my email, then i'll believe you. :p

Omnistegan@haloremix.com


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Unregistered - Omnistegan 10.18.2005 12:00
O another interesting fact, in LOTR the tower that blows at the end was a model with abour 300000 polygons, so if there are even 3 cars in a game at a time, it will look at LOTR digital work..... cant frickin wait. holy shiznacle over 100000 ploys in a game... wow.... just wow.

41 -
Adam 10.25.2005 19:27
Wooooooot the fooooooook......100,000 polygons?

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